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DarrenT 05-16-2013 06:47 AM

Steering box swap out
 
So, I'm under her last night and noticed a ton of fluid coating the underneath driver-side chassis......
I knew the garage had replaced a brake line the day before and figured it might be spilt/leaking fluid. Oh it was leaking fluid alright, but from the pitman seal (see EDIT). So I was reading up and got a price on a durango box for $75 from the local junkers.
I don't intend to ever run tires bigger than what I have, but I can get a durango box cheaper than a TJ one, so why not?

EDIT: On further inspection this morning, it appears to not be a pitman seal issue. It's leaking from the seal around the input shaft.... My whole driver side is coated in steering fluid. :( :(

Questions is now if I can find a pitman puller.....

MetsFan978 05-16-2013 07:57 AM

Mine started leaking from the same spot. I ended up buying a rebuilt TJ box instead of trying to repair it. According to the FSM you need to correctly set the bearing preload when you replace the input shaft seals, and I didn't have to the tools to do that part right.

It's not a hard job. I was able to do it with my dad helping in a few hours. PB Blaster + a propane torch helped the pitman arm come off without too much of a fight.

DarrenT 05-16-2013 08:10 AM

I just arranged to borrow a pitman puller, that's eased my mind a little. I looked it over some more and its not that big of a job - stu-offroad.com has a pretty good write up on the removal and replacement. I have all the tools I need so it's now just a matter of getting my hands dirty. I reckon a couple of hours should see it done. Fingers crossed.....

jebby 05-16-2013 11:00 AM

ill be doing this in the next few weeks. any other input on replacing seals vs whole steering box?

Jerry Bransford 05-16-2013 11:04 AM

I read the procedure for rebuilding a steering box & it wasn't anything I'd want to tackle. If my steering box started leaking enough to need repair, I'd install a new or rebuilt steering box.

jebby 05-16-2013 11:42 AM

thought so thanks

DarrenT 05-16-2013 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jerry Bransford (Post 3761748)
I read the procedure for rebuilding a steering box & it wasn't anything I'd want to tackle. If my steering box started leaking enough to need repair, I'd install a new or rebuilt steering box.

Yeah, I said frig that too. Cheaper and easier to get a new or used box.
Well, it's pissing out fluid now :( probably pissing a quart faster than I could.
Just waiting on the junk yard to call and confirm they pulled the durango box....
I was looking forward to a nice relaxing long weekend too.

RevCo666 05-16-2013 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarrenT (Post 3762108)
Yeah, I said frig that too. Cheaper and easier to get a new or used box.
Well, it's pissing out fluid now :( probably pissing a quart faster than I could.
Just waiting on the junk yard to call and confirm they pulled the durango box....
I was looking forward to a nice relaxing long weekend too.

Same issue with the steering gear box, I already have the part now and waiting to have installed by my mechanic next wednesday. I chose to go with the a replacement unit instead of going durango as it has no benefit for me.

DarrenT 05-16-2013 12:46 PM

The durango unit has no benefit to me either, just a budgetary choice right now.
And I suppose it's there if I ever do change my mind and decide to put big tires on.
Pissed off today, just seems like one thing after another right now.

RevCo666 05-16-2013 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by DarrenT (Post 3762133)
The durango unit has no benefit to me either, just a budgetary choice right now.
And I suppose it's there if I ever do change my mind and decide to put big tires on.
Pissed off today, just seems like one thing after another right now.

I found my replacement on rockauto.com for 100$ plus 60$ for shipping. after GST it came to about 175$. My mechanic wanted to charge 285$ for the part alone. I figured I would shop around first before biting that bullet.

DarrenT 05-16-2013 01:22 PM

That's not bad. Didn't even dare check the prices in Napa....
$75 is reasonable, plus I'll fit it myself. I'm just a tight arse I suppose and I hate spending money.... especially after I just spent the best part of $600 a few days ago, that's 4 days pay!! :(

RevCo666 05-16-2013 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by DarrenT (Post 3762242)
That's not bad. Didn't even dare check the prices in Napa....
$75 is reasonable, plus I'll fit it myself. I'm just a tight arse I suppose and I hate spending money.... especially after I just spent the best part of $600 a few days ago, that's 4 days pay!! :(

I hear ya, but some things I leave to my mechanic. I have bad luck with doing mechanical work. Tho give me a computer and I'll tear it apart and build it back blindfolded lol Which means stick to what you know :)

DarrenT 05-21-2013 08:14 AM

Well, Friday night was awesome...... NOT!!
I started on the box replacement around 3pm, and finished up by around half seven (half hour break for beer and food...)
Most things came apart easy enough, bit of PB Blaster (half a can) did the trick.
The pitman arm was a real POS though, took 2 & 1/2 hours to crack the nut, remove the tie rod end and pitman arm. In the end I hammered out the tie rod end and just cut down the mushroomed end, enough so I could get the castle nut on and torque it. I'll replace the tie rod end this week anyway as the seal was shot.
I didn't get any pics, I'd hoped to, but I was balls deep in steering fluid :D
Jeep also didn't account for sausage fingers when they designed the location of the steering lines either... that was 30 minutes!!
Still, no leaks, nice light non-squeaky steering - Happy happy happy :thumb:. Just $90 lighter for the pleasure.

DarrenT 05-21-2013 08:46 AM

Exchange tie rod for drag link... I was pre-coffee writing this and brain was elsewhere....

Plowboy1970 05-21-2013 09:19 AM

To get the nut loose I put a socket on the nut and a 3/4 drive breaker bar on that. Turned the wheel until the bar was against the drivers wheel. Turn until the nut pops. First Jeep took 2 hours. This last time it was my 3rd Jeep. I did it in 45 minutes. It gets better!!

DarrenT 05-21-2013 09:30 AM

Haha, I did that, I also used a 2' and 3' breaker bar..... at one point I had my feet on the wheel and was lifting my whole body on the bar...... That SOB had been jammed on there for 16 years and wasn't for shifting. Wasn't enough fluid in the system to put enough force behind the wheels to break the nut.... So mandraulic was the only way :D felt it Saturday...


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