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thgr8alex 05-18-2013 12:03 PM

So i went to run a few errands today and all was okay until we were on our way to the last stop. The steering felt, well, not right. It also pulled to the left and when i braked, it pulled significantly to the right. I stopped and pulled over and checked everything and all was tight except steering stabilizer, the bushing was rotted and moved just a tad. I dont know why that would be the problem so i continued driving (to home now) and the steering pulls got progressively worse and then when i was almost home i smelt this bad smell like burning oil or something burning. Also on the last road i heard something metal hit the ground. Like a bolt or something small. I made it home safely and checked again and cant seem to find the problem. The smell was strongest near the radiator and fan. It felt a little warmer than usual too. Also i got an alignment after my lift about a month or two ago so i wouldnt think its an alignment issue. It bogged down for a little bit on the way home as well. Thats everything odd i noticed and it drove so funky that i dont feel comfortable driving it until i figure out my issue. Thanks in advance guys...

JPi4.0 05-18-2013 12:08 PM

Steering box loose on the frame?

Can you take some pics.
Under the hood and the front end?

Is it leaking any fluids?

novi306 05-18-2013 12:09 PM

I had one of my brake calipers freeze up intermittently to cause it to pull to one side then after a long trip it froze completely Plus it had a bad smell from the pads overheating. And this was after I had new pads and rotors put on. The brake line collapsed and the caliper froze so I replaced both

thgr8alex 05-18-2013 12:11 PM

The braking did seem not so strong especially with the pulling. But nothing is dripping to the floor. Ill take some pics now, give me a second and ill post them

thgr8alex 05-18-2013 12:12 PM

Holy crap the hood stand was almost too hot to touch. Had to do it quick.

thgr8alex 05-18-2013 12:19 PM

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That 3rd pic youll have to rotate your head i took it with my phone rotated

thgr8alex 05-18-2013 12:25 PM

Let me know if more pics are needed of something else in detail or closeups. Or if i missed something. I tried to get a good overall couple of shots

novi306 05-18-2013 12:26 PM

Might need to let it cool down and start checking fluid levels in everything first

thgr8alex 05-18-2013 12:30 PM

Yep thats on my list but i think thats another issue from my pull

novi306 05-18-2013 12:31 PM

Easy way to check calipers is after a drive feel the wheel on the side it was pulling and see if it feels hotter than the other wheels

thgr8alex 05-18-2013 12:38 PM

Wow that worked really well novi, all wheels were room temp except driver front. It was significantly hotter. And it was pulling to the left as well which makes sense..

novi306 05-18-2013 12:42 PM

Plus if it felt like it was bogging down that may have been the caliper locking up on you also

Dare 05-18-2013 12:46 PM

I suspect either a pad is dragging or caliper hung up, just had the same on my daughters vehicle, changed out the brake pads and rotors it had eaten one so bad and both guide pins were frozen up creating the constant pressure . if its the brakes, do both on the front to be safe and lube up those guide pins.

thgr8alex 05-18-2013 12:46 PM

Yep. That makes sense now. Thanks novi. So what all do i need to buy? New calipers? Should i only get drivers side or do both? Anything else needed?

thgr8alex 05-18-2013 12:48 PM

Ya i suspected if one sides bad the other is probably not far from it. Thanks for confirmation Dare

novi306 05-18-2013 12:55 PM

Would not hurt to replace the brake line from caliper to the frame. Over time the rubber line degrades

thgr8alex 05-18-2013 01:14 PM

Good point, might as well while im at it. So new calipers and lines? Anything else needed? And where does everyone recommend getting these for a decent price?

novi306 05-18-2013 01:58 PM

That's bare minimum to get you going. You might look at the rotors to see if they are warped and the brake pads themselves Just call your local part stores and check prices Good luck !!

thgr8alex 05-18-2013 02:01 PM

Ok will do, so theres no brands to kind of stay away from?

thgr8alex 05-18-2013 02:08 PM

Also, is the steering wheel shake i was getting from the brake calipers as well? Or could that have been something else?

chevymad 05-18-2013 02:56 PM

Brake locking up can cause the shake as well.

thgr8alex 05-18-2013 03:01 PM

Ok good to know that all of my issues are now narrowed down to one thing. Phew i was afraid i was running into multiple issues here. Thanks a ton guys! Also just to verify, calipers are calipers right? Theres no good or bad ones? Any caliper that fits from an auto store is good right? Or are there certain brands to aim for or stray from?

BlackTJ94 05-18-2013 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by thgr8alex (Post 3768546)
So i went to run a few errands today and all was okay until we were on our way to the last stop. The steering felt, well, not right. It also pulled to the left and when i braked, it pulled significantly to the right. I stopped and pulled over and checked everything and all was tight except steering stabilizer, the bushing was rotted and moved just a tad. I dont know why that would be the problem so i continued driving (to home now) and the steering pulls got progressively worse and then when i was almost home i smelt this bad smell like burning oil or something burning. Also on the last road i heard something metal hit the ground. Like a bolt or something small. I made it home safely and checked again and cant seem to find the problem. The smell was strongest near the radiator and fan. It felt a little warmer than usual too. Also i got an alignment after my lift about a month or two ago so i wouldnt think its an alignment issue. It bogged down for a little bit on the way home as well. Thats everything odd i noticed and it drove so funky that i dont feel comfortable driving it until i figure out my issue. Thanks in advance guys...

Seized caliper. Happened to me about 2 months ago. It smelt like something was burning and it kept pulling to the left.

thgr8alex 05-18-2013 06:08 PM

Yep just got all my parts from oreillys today and waiting on my rotors to be smoothed down just to be safe. Chillin at sonic haha will begin install in a few..

thgr8alex 05-18-2013 06:22 PM

Heres a pic of the driver side caliper (one that siezed up on me) it was a PITA to remove haha but finally got it off.

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thgr8alex 05-18-2013 09:26 PM

Good and bad news, i got new calipers, new pads, and my rotors smoothed out on a lathe and installed everything tonight but ended up breaking the drivers side bolt that goes through the brake line (the one that has the holes in it to allow brake fluid to flow, cant think of name of it right now). Luckily it was just the head so i was able to unscrew it and stop the brake line up. My question is now where can i get one of those bolts? Are they sort of universal and everycar has the same one or are they jeep specific? Do you think a local autozone or oreillys would have one or do i need to go to the stealership or order one online? Really a disappointing moment as i was almost done besides bleeding...

thgr8alex 05-18-2013 10:24 PM

Ok did some googling and figured out its a 3/8"-24 banjo bolt. Pretty common for these to break apparently.. Lol but i kept seeing talk of washers and dont remember mine having washers at the banjo bolt to hose connection. It slightly leaked which is why i tightemed it (too much and broke it) but should i get washers here? I mean is there a certain type or will any washer that fits there do the trick? Also if i buy the new banjo bolt would washers be included?

jwink41 05-18-2013 10:40 PM

My only experience with brake calipers is on motorcycles, so this may not be much help, but calipers are calipers (for the most part). I would think there should be washers on the banjo. Most motorcycle brake calipers I've serviced had two each. I'd just ask the O'Reilly parts guy. He/She could look it up.

krisbman 05-18-2013 11:19 PM

Its a banjo fitting and it should have copper washers on both sides of the fitting. How you broke the head off is puzzling, even without the washers you should be able to feel the bolt bottom out. I dont think ive ever broke a 3/8 bolt even putting air to it.

thgr8alex 05-18-2013 11:42 PM

Ya i dont remember any washers, from what ive been reading, places like autozone and oreillys dont have them but napa does so il be running up to napa tomorrow to get them. Ill be sure to get the washers too. Strange how mine had none. And the hose was dripping just a little at the connection so tightened up a bit more to stop leakand bam, broke in half, luckily i was able to use pliers and unthread it out of there. But those bolts were old and a little rusty, maybe thats why they snapped


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