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scottmphoto 05-19-2013 02:38 PM

Planning a June Moab Trip
 
My wife and I are planning a June Moab trip from Portland.

Any tips/suggestions/ideas?

Many thanks!

K7MDL 05-19-2013 03:12 PM

Be prepared for hot. A hotel or RV with AC rather then tenting would be my choice.
The snow will be melted or almost gone in the La Salles so you can scope out some high country roads and enjoy the cooler weather at 10K feet. Check out the road construction advisories up there before you go, some routes may be blocked and demand alternatives.

I run with the soft top (sunrider roof) open and a Spiderwebshade and 96F was comfortable that way, out of direct sunlight but still reasonably open air experience. Keeping the main part of the soft top up was nice to help keep the dust from overwhelming us. The dust tends to get sucked into Jeep from the back running down the many silty dry roads.

Utahpete 05-19-2013 06:38 PM

Have plenty of water, a minimum one gallon per person per day.
There are good guide books that describe trails and the Red Rock 4 Wheelers have good trail descriptions also
Red Rock 4-Wheelers, Inc. -

There are trails where you can see dinosaur tracks as well as many red rock scenic wonders. Bring your camera
There are a lot of great hiking and mountain biking trails, as well as rock climbing, rafting and most anything else outdoors.

see here also

Moab Happenings: Guide to lodging, restaurants, real estate, shopping, more

Pete

O_M_Jeep 05-19-2013 06:42 PM

the weekly wheeling trip is listed at webejeepinmoab's website, every saturday and a lot of sundays they meet at the Slickrock cinema and head out, they list the upcomming trails on this website - WeBeJeepin’ Moab Upcoming Trails

It's a great way to get out on a trail, without going alone, and you'll meet some great people, a lot of them live there and wheel most days, very freindly, very fun, and free to join in.

jadmt 05-19-2013 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by scottmphoto (Post 3771453)
My wife and I are planning a June Moab trip from Portland.

Any tips/suggestions/ideas?

Many thanks!

my wife and are planning the same the last week in June so very interested to here responses.

scottmphoto 05-20-2013 11:15 AM

Awesome everyone!! Thanks!!!

triggerfin 05-20-2013 01:17 PM

I'll be there with my family as well - long drive for us! Has been fun getting the jeep prepared for the trip. We are camping our way across the Rockies on our way in. Having a difficult time finding any info regarding camping in the Moab area, Arches, Canyonlands. We back-country tent camp only (no crowded campgrounds for us...) - appreciate any advice.

NFRs2000NYC 05-20-2013 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by triggerfin (Post 3774728)
I'll be there with my family as well - long drive for us! Has been fun getting the jeep prepared for the trip. We are camping our way across the Rockies on our way in. Having a difficult time finding any info regarding camping in the Moab area, Arches, Canyonlands. We back-country tent camp only (no crowded campgrounds for us...) - appreciate any advice.

Then you are out of luck. There is no wilderness camping allowed in the Moab area. By wilderness, I mean camp where you want. All camping is done only on designated campsites. However, in Moab, that doesn't mean they are crowded. Most designated grounds are actually quite small (some are 10 sites, some are 4) so you MIGHT be next to a few other people, nothing crowded. Sometimes, it's nice to have SOMEONE around you in a place like Moab, especially on the VERY remote trails (like the White Rim). You never know when you might need something. You need to reserve your site in advance, they are a first come first serve basis. Unless you want to risk being stuck in a hotel (and are prepared to pay for that) chancing campsite availability is probably not wise. Obviously the campgrounds in arches and canyonlands (national parks) will be more "crowded" than those that are MUCH more remote ...anything along the 128, the white rim, etc. You can easily get a campsite where you will probably be alone (or close to it) but they are DEEP DEEP inside the canyons....which is cool, just make sure that is something you want and are EXTREMELY well prepared, especially in the summer.

Gear storage may be an issue for you. Im going to assume you have a JKU (because you cannot camp in moab with a family in a JK) and even with a U, you will NOT have enough room to have adequate gear unless....

1) You have a roof rack
2) You are pulling a trailer.

This is what my rig looked like with only 2 people, and NO camping....
( I just returned from Moab) and this isn't everything....a lot of stuff was still inside my cabin.
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b1...ps388a9f18.jpg

It sounds to me like you guys have camped before, so you know what you are doing, just wanted to highlight some key things that are easy to overlook.

Camping deep in Moab (summertime) I would make sure I have....

1) A full case of water per person per day. 1 gallon IMHO is the bare MINIMUM. This means, if you have 4 people and 4 cases on water on day one, on day two, I would consider you low on water because you would have drank some of your minimum 4 cases.

2) 2 days supply of real food and 7 day supply of emergency food (ie high calorie bars, drinks, etc)

3) Warm sleeping bags just in case for everyone, or at minimum, thermal emergency blankets. Temps can plummet in Moab at night.

4) Small bottle of bleach or water purification tablets, just in case you need to drink "dirty" water.

5) Basic tools to fix your rig. With my family, I'd personally stay off the hardcore stuff as a serious break will ruin your vacation. So just the basic stuff to fix/bandaid fix minor trail damage.

6) A first aid kit, with a normal sized bottle of peroxide.

7) If you are going to consider DEEP canyon camping, consider renting a satellite phone online. They are not expensive to rent (they are pricy to use though) and can be a lifesaver. I didn't rent one, but if I was with my kids, I would have. Something like this....
Satellite Phone Rental Iridium 9555 - As low as $4.99/day!

8) All the medication that anyone is on. If someone is on insulin, definitely don't ignore #7 and have 2x the insulin/needles necessary, stored in completely opposite places (ie front of Jeep and back of jeep.)

9) A packet of anti-diarrhea pills (immodium) and a bottle of pepto (or caplets). Headache medication (especially if you are going to take your family on the La Sal mountains. Diarrhea in a place like a canyon is no laughing matter.

10) Tons of low draw high output lighting if you are planning on hiking. Windup flashlights are great as well. A few flares would be pretty smart as well.

11) And take this one REALLY seriously....have a person you trust (that isn't going) be your "go to person." You will tell them where you will be daily, and you will contact them at the end of the day and tell them everything is fine. If they do not hear from you for 48 hours, they are to contact Moab Police, the BLM and/or the Park Service. This is the easiest for of safety you can have. If you plan on rafting, make sure someone knows your start point and your projected dock point.

12) Extra gas.

scottmphoto 05-20-2013 11:36 PM

Great points, thanks. You mentioned for the campsites "You need to reserve your site in advance, they are a first come first serve basis." I am confused...do you reserve them online or in person?

Thanks!!!

Scott

K7MDL 05-21-2013 12:22 AM

For certain areas like the White Rim permit/reservations are required and certain equipment is also required. The Canyonlands National Park web site info should clarify. The good news is that in June the temps are up and the numbers of campers should be down. There are many primitive BLM areas with nothing more than a vault toilet. The BLM has more info on the location and rules. In most areas camping is restricted to within a certain distance from the road, or as mentioned in designated spots. For example along Onion Creek and Kane Creek roads there are numbered sign posts, many with picnic benches. Other areas are just wide dirt or grassy areas, often used by ATV'rs. Some place (there are many) are along the Colorado River and Dubinky Well roads. Spotting these will give you an idea of what to look for. Pay attention to what jurisdiction of the land you are on. Entering the National Parks requires a pass also. Easily obtained at the main entrances.

Getting a guide book such as "Guide to Moab, UT Backroads & 4-Wheel Drive Trails" 2nd Edition, by Charles A. Wells, is a major help. It rates the trails, groups them, and calls out camping and parking areas nearby. The BLM office has their maps as well as others. All list the well know spots and summarize the rules. There are so many areas you could go it is hard to be specific until you pick the places.

NFRs2000NYC 05-21-2013 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by scottmphoto (Post 3776918)
Great points, thanks. You mentioned for the campsites "You need to reserve your site in advance, they are a first come first serve basis." I am confused...do you reserve them online or in person?

Thanks!!!

Scott

In person or by mail. I know, it sucks.

tontwins 05-21-2013 12:41 AM

I live in Utah I wouldn't camp in Moab in June... It's really hot. If u even consider camping camp near the Colorado plenty of camp sites there

tontwins 05-21-2013 12:44 AM

[QUOTE="tontwins;3777071"]I live in Utah I wouldn't camp in Moab in June... It's really hot. If u go camping go near the Colorado plenty of camp sites right on the river watch the kids though! Most rv places in Moab have lower rates for camp sites in june too go that route with a pool

triggerfin 05-21-2013 11:46 AM

I've decided to camp along the White Rim - we'll spend 2.5 days working our way through it. You can call the NPS Reservation Office at 435-259-4351. They were very helpful in helping me select campsites. Most of the preferred ones are already taken though. I understand some of them are close to the road and can be very dusty. I found some OK ones but none with any shade. You can print the form and fax it to reserve your sites ($30/night), which I've done.

The ranger I spoke with said it will indeed be hot during the day but will cool off nicely at night. He said the bigger concern is the gnats - they are getting bad. We'll be prepared for them but not looking forward to meeting them.

My JKUR is outfitted like an expedition vehicle (lift, tires, rack, rotopax, winch, hi lift, OBA, lights etc.), roof mounted watertank with pump (shower and drinking), 27 gallons of water and I've got a SPOT (with tracking on) so should not be undergeared or undersupplied. I am much more top heavy than I like to be, but I'll be navigating and driving accordingly. Ranger said the trail is in really good shape right now and passable by an unmodified vehicle with low gear 4wd and can be done in about 12 hours at a medium pace. He said that could change with weather.

We're going to do Arches before Canyonlands - taking a break from camping and staying at Aarches Inn while there.

Appreciate any and all advice.

NFRs2000NYC 05-21-2013 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by triggerfin (Post 3778242)
I've decided to camp along the White Rim - we'll spend 2.5 days working our way through it. You can call the NPS Reservation Office at 435-259-4351. They were very helpful in helping me select campsites. Most of the preferred ones are already taken though. I understand some of them are close to the road and can be very dusty. I found some OK ones but none with any shade. You can print the form and fax it to reserve your sites ($30/night), which I've done.

The ranger I spoke with said it will indeed be hot during the day but will cool off nicely at night. He said the bigger concern is the gnats - they are getting bad. We'll be prepared for them but not looking forward to meeting them.

My JKUR is outfitted like an expedition vehicle (lift, tires, rack, rotopax, winch, hi lift, OBA, lights etc.), roof mounted watertank with pump (shower and drinking), 27 gallons of water and I've got a SPOT (with tracking on) so should not be undergeared or undersupplied. I am much more top heavy than I like to be, but I'll be navigating and driving accordingly. Ranger said the trail is in really good shape right now and passable by an unmodified vehicle with low gear 4wd and can be done in about 12 hours at a medium pace. He said that could change with weather.

We're going to do Arches before Canyonlands - taking a break from camping and staying at Aarches Inn while there.

Appreciate any and all advice.

Don't forget to check fire regulations. Many places do not allow fire, so you will need your own grill/bbq. Some that do, you need to bring your own wood in (make sure you have cargo space for it.) Have a few lighters, tinder (cottonballs soaked in petroleum jelly work great), coolers to hold ice (buy blocks of ice, not cubes. You can buy one bag of cubes just to get the watermelt started (things in cold icewater are kept colder than just ice. Tire repair kit, fix-a-flat can, hilift, hilift base, insect repellant, tiki torches and fuel for them if possible, canned airhorn (scaring off animals)....if I think of anything else I'll post it up.

tontwins 06-05-2013 12:10 AM

Raft the daily is fun bring beer and it will be more fun....evenings in Moab are awesome.


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