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JL20 05-20-2013 03:05 PM

Shop put in 10W40... change?
 
Guys,

I had my oil changed a couple weeks ago at 5000 miles at a Belle Tire. I originally requested standard 5w30 as recommended by the manual. Guy comes out and tells me they're out of conventional 5w30 and asks if I want to go with synthetic. I agreed since I eventually planned to switch anyways.

Now I'm scanning in the receipt for my records and realize he put in AMSOIL 10W40 XL. I'm thinking of going back and demanding they change it, but will it even matter?

I'm near Detroit so my main concern is the winter.

Thanks

legitposter 05-20-2013 03:12 PM

Not only is it the wrong oil but its Amsoil. Get it out of there. Now.

NFRs2000NYC 05-20-2013 03:12 PM

I assume that oil change cost you a decent chunk of change ($60+) in which case, I'd demand they change it for the correct weight.

NFRs2000NYC 05-20-2013 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by legitposter (Post 3775133)
Not only is it the wrong oil but its Amsoil. Get it out of there. Now.

WTF are you talking about? Amsoil makes the best engine oil that money can buy. :facepalm:

formula96 05-20-2013 03:12 PM

Pretty sure its sposed to be 5w-20. I would have them change it again just to be safe

JL20 05-20-2013 03:14 PM

Perhaps I should just demand a full refund and go somewhere else...

NFRs2000NYC 05-20-2013 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by JL20 (Post 3775145)
Perhaps I should just demand a full refund and go somewhere else...

That would probably be the best plan. Get your money back, and take it to a place that knows what they are doing. Just so you know, the 2012+ probably have the easiest oil change in the world. Literally a 5 minute job. Consider doing it yourself.

JL20 05-20-2013 03:18 PM

Yeah I probably will if I end up getting the money refunded...

xcoaste 05-20-2013 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NFRs2000NYC (Post 3775148)
That would probably be the best plan. Get your money back, and take it to a place that knows what they are doing. Just so you know, the 2012+ probably have the easiest oil change in the world. Literally a 5 minute job. Consider doing it yourself.

+1 on how easy it is. No mess at all with the filter up top :thumb:

legitposter 05-20-2013 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NFRs2000NYC (Post 3775137)
WTF are you talking about? Amsoil makes the best engine oil that money can buy. :facepalm:

Well let's not turn this into an oil argument thread but to anyone who reads this previous response: Research Amsoil. There's a reason it lacks many certifications.

NFRs2000NYC 05-20-2013 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by legitposter (Post 3775169)
Well let's not turn this into an oil argument thread but to anyone who reads this previous response: Research Amsoil. There's a reason it lacks many certifications.

It is also one of the few oils authorized by manufacturers to meet or exceed OE specs ie Honda, Yamaha, Suzuki, etc. I have posted independent lab tests on countless threads. Certifications don't mean much. Mobil1 doesn't have the certification Chrysler wants, doesn't mean it isn't better than OEM motor oil.

Miser 05-20-2013 03:26 PM

I would take your manual with you and show the manager what your wrangler must use. Demand a refund, or that they put in oil that meets the recommended guideline in your manual.
If they decide to change it, then I would stand there and make sure that they are following Chrysler guidelines. This AMSOIL stuff is very expensive, so if you chose a different brand synthetic, or conventional, then make sure that they refund you the difference in the oil pricing.

JL20 05-20-2013 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Miser (Post 3775199)
I would take your manual with you and show the manager what your wrangler must use. Demand a refund, or that they put in oil that meets the recommended guideline in your manual.
If they decide to change it, then I would stand there and make sure that they are following Chrysler guidelines. This AMSOIL stuff is very expensive, so if you chose a different brand synthetic, or conventional, then make sure that they refund you the difference in the oil pricing.

Yep - this is what I'll have to do. I'm definitely going to watch them pour in the replacement oil, as they've already lied to me once in order to upsell. I'll never use those rats again.

NFRs2000NYC 05-20-2013 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Miser (Post 3775199)
I would take your manual with you and show the manager what your wrangler must use. Demand a refund, or that they put in oil that meets the recommended guideline in your manual.
If they decide to change it, then I would stand there and make sure that they are following Chrysler guidelines. This AMSOIL stuff is very expensive, so if you chose a different brand synthetic, or conventional, then make sure that they refund you the difference in the oil pricing.

Actually, in bulk it doesn't cost much more than other good synthetics. I got a case of Mobil1 at costco for $37. At autozone and stores like that a quart is $8.99. Amsoil is $10 online directly from them. Synthetic oil changes at shops are extremely expensive though. Pepboys charges $90 for a synthetic change for a 5 quart motor.

Old Dogger 05-20-2013 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NFRs2000NYC (Post 3775186)
It is also one of the few oils authorized by manufacturers to meet or exceed OE specs ie Honda, Yamaha, Suzuki, etc. I have posted independent lab tests on countless threads. Certifications don't mean much. Mobil1 doesn't have the certification Chrysler wants, doesn't mean it isn't better than OEM motor oil.

Great another oil war, I love it!:popcorn::popcorn::popcorn:

Sorry SilverSport, the popcorn is once again mine............

NFRs2000NYC 05-20-2013 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Old Dogger (Post 3775212)
Great another oil war, I love it!:popcorn::popcorn::popcorn:

Sorry SilverSport, the popcorn is once again mine............

No, not at all. I already posted plenty of stuff on oil in the other threads. Not going to retype it again... :)

Here are the posts though...

http://www.wranglerforum.com/f33/wha...ml#post2075104

and here

http://www.wranglerforum.com/f33/wha...ml#post2473554

kik 05-20-2013 03:45 PM

I would go back and get a refund. At this point I wouldn't trust them. I would switch out what's in there but I probably wouldn't swap out the filter.

Miser 05-20-2013 03:48 PM

Go show them your manual and get a full refund. Next make a wise decision as to what oil and viscosity that needs to be used. It's easy just look in your manual.

Synthetic, verses, conventional, Oil Brand verses Oil Brand, viscosity, verses viscosity and finally not to be left out, or forgotten, Brand of oil filter, verses Brand of oil filter.
These posts are educational, funny/hysterical and will live on forever!
Everybody sees themselves as a oil PHD expert, including me. Well life goes on!

JL20 05-20-2013 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kik (Post 3775252)
I would go back and get a refund. At this point I wouldn't trust them. I would switch out what's in there but I probably wouldn't swap out the filter.

Yeah it's only been a couple weeks so I figure the filter should still be fine.

MikeK46 05-20-2013 04:09 PM

Give them the benefit of the doubt first. Sometimes they put the wrong info on the receipt. It's a possibility. People can screw up anywhere. It might've actually been Amsoil 5w30.

Once confirmed they put the wrong oil, then give em hell :D

ilikeguns 05-20-2013 04:10 PM

anyone want to bet that they will say "we just wrote it up like that and used the oil you requested" ?

Miser 05-20-2013 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ilikeguns (Post 3775321)
anyone want to bet that they will say "we just wrote it up like that and used the oil you requested" ?

X2 Yep.....

JL20 05-21-2013 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Miser (Post 3775410)
X2 Yep.....

Not my problem they wrote it up wrong and I can't take their word for it. Still need to demand a full refund and change... Maybe they "wrote-it up wrong" because the 10W40 is more expensive than the 5W20 and they were trying to rip me off... hmmm

SilverSport 05-21-2013 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Miser (Post 3775199)
I would take your manual with you and show the manager what your wrangler must use. Demand a refund, or that they put in oil that meets the recommended guideline in your manual.
If they decide to change it, then I would stand there and make sure that they are following Chrysler guidelines. This AMSOIL stuff is very expensive, so if you chose a different brand synthetic, or conventional, then make sure that they refund you the difference in the oil pricing.

Amsoil 5W-30 shipped to my house is actually cheaper than going to my local auto parts store and buying the so called name brands. ;)

Amsoil used to be expensive compared to everyone else. But in the past 3 years, they have kept price increases to a minimum compared to the other brands so in many cases, it is cheaper in price.

SuicideSaints 05-21-2013 09:54 AM

Did you get it changed or contact them yet? I am curious to see what they say and do.

JL20 05-21-2013 02:01 PM

no, I'm going in sometime this week though. I'll post what happens.

Sinister6 05-21-2013 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Miser (Post 3775259)
!
Everybody sees themselves as a oil PHD expert, including me. Well life goes on!

:rofl: So true! Everyone has an opinion very few of them based on facts! To the OP Considering your main concern was Detroit and winter... It's umm MAY! :rofl:

jklarry 05-21-2013 03:57 PM

same oil that I use. have an 09 and it does NOT use oil, gets 17.5 mpg, change it once a year. my wife demands it in her Jeep. :thumb:

Miser 05-21-2013 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SilverSport (Post 3777900)
Amsoil 5W-30 shipped to my house is actually cheaper than going to my local auto parts store and buying the so called name brands. ;)

Amsoil used to be expensive compared to everyone else. But in the past 3 years, they have kept price increases to a minimum compared to the other brands so in many cases, it is cheaper in price.

I only have about 1,300 miles on my 3.6. Currently I am using Pennzoil 5w20 conventional in it. After several trips back and forth to our cabin, starting this week, throughout the summer, I should have around 5,000 miles on it by this Fall. I was thinking that maybe I would switch over to Pennzoil Platinum, but will take a serious look at the Amsoil synthetic, before making that decision. I'm not sure in our Wrangler application, if one would really add any additional benefit, verses the other?:D

MattK 05-21-2013 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by formula96 (Post 3775136)
Pretty sure its sposed to be 5w-20. I would have them change it again just to be safe

Hope you get a refund or correct oil installed from that business. However, as Forumula96 said Chrysler recommends using 5w-20.

Page 568 of the owners manual:

Quote:

Engine Oil Viscosity 3.6L Engine
SAE 5W-20 engine oil is recommended for all operating
temperatures. This engine oil improves low temperature
starting and vehicle fuel economy.
Do as you please but just correcting you on what the manual actually says.


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