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amyers22 05-21-2013 02:13 PM

Baby & Manual
 
My wife and I are expecting our first child in November:dance:. I am trying to prepare for the baby as much as possible and am a little nervous on having the baby in the Jeep. I have a 2002 Wrangler Sport, and thought it to have the LATCH system in it. However, after putting in a friends baby seat the LATCHs were actually just for luggage and storage on the floorboard:facepalm:. I then tried running the rear seat belts, both rear seat belts, through the baby seat and neither would lock. I pulled them all the way out to get them to lock as they went back in and they never would. Also, when I would pull on the straps really hard and fast the seat belt would not lock, like it should if in a collision. Are my seat belts broken and need to be replaced so as to lock and how different is the 2003 rear seat with the LATCH system compared to the 2002 rear seat and its brackets? What I am getting at, is there a recommended safe way to put my child in the 2002 Jeep Wrangler? I am guessing my 2002 model was before the required LATCH standard. Also, anyone know where I can find a digital copy of the 2002 Wrangler owners manual? Sorry for so much stuff in just one post.

Thanks

Sinister6 05-21-2013 02:15 PM

You can get them off eBay for like $3.

DrewG 05-21-2013 02:38 PM

If it were me, I'd go to the dealer and ask them. Theoretically, they're supposed to know how to set up child seats in their vehicles. I know, probably not what you wanted to hear, but I'm not about to give "guessed" advice that could effect your kid's safety.

viperx6x9x 05-21-2013 02:50 PM

Well we are in the same boat my friend. I too have a 2002 and a baby on the way. I thought everything after 2000 was supposed to have the latch system. I guess I have some research to do myself, maybe we can help each other out on this problem.

tallzdatank 05-21-2013 03:00 PM

good luck man, it does sound like your seat belts are worn out. personally I remember being the 4 year old on the front seat of dads Cadillac with no seat belts. would I let my kids ride that way? hell no. good luck hope you find your answer.

jeepwayoflife 05-21-2013 03:45 PM

Yep check with your closest dealership. I believe safety equipment is supposed to have a lifetime warranty.

GreenJack 05-21-2013 04:28 PM

Quote:

... personally I remember being the 4 year old on the front seat of dads Cadillac with no seat belts. would I let my kids ride that way? hell no....
IT IS AMAZING THE HUMAN RACE SURVIVED THE PRE-CHILD SEAT ERA... :D

Inside a Cadillac... As a child I used to LOVE riding in the bed of my Uncle pickup truck on the turnpike with my cousins...

Thank God the "Nanny State" laws have since come to rule the land and saved us from ourselves.


OP. This link might help...

Locking Clips

wolfsbone01 05-21-2013 07:22 PM

To Amyers22 and Viperx6x9x I would recommand this device to use when putting a car seat whether its a rear or forward facing when they get older. Here is the link:
Diono Mighty Tite Car seat Belt Tightner - Diono - Babies "R" Us

I use this both with my 06 LJ and my wifes 2000 and works wonders to where you can't move the car seat more then 1/4" side to side if that. Also for some reason the rear seat belts in the jeeps including my 06 do not lock like you find in other cars. Also if you are any way familiar with car seats those locking are included and they really don't work to keep the car seat tight. And before anybody askes I have the latch system in my 06 and I don't use it because I can't get it tight enough because of the slope of the seat compared to the car seat that we use for our daughter. So take a look at the device that I posted about.

lowreyfarris 05-21-2013 07:55 PM

My 99 obviously does not have the latch system either. Since I use the Jeep to tow behind my RV, my son doesn't ride in it too often. I ordered 2 of the locking clips off e-bay for $10 shipped before I bought another car seat to put in the Jeep permanently. The new car seat came with the clip, it was on the back of the seat. I also hook the teather strap into the cargo tie downs. It is pretty secure.

I did quite a bit of research on this subject before I bought my Jeep. There is a retro kit the dealer can install, but I read several people saying it was a nightmare to find a dealership that knew how and was willing to do it.

From carseat.org
"User-ready top tether strap anchorage hardware (such as a ring, bar, bracket, or webbing loop) for three rear seating positions were available in most passenger vehicles beginning with model year 2000 and were required in all cars, minivans, and pick-up trucks by model year 2001."

bostiguy 05-21-2013 08:50 PM

Skip the dealer install. Unless they have a certified car seat installer which I kind of doubt.
Call your local/state police. I took a child safety class before my daughter was born to learn about car seat safety. I then went to the local Sate Police Barracks and had a Trooper install for me for peace of mind.
Child seats should not move any more than one inch. When you are securing it down, kneel into it with all your weight while tightening it. There should be a clip attached to the back of the car seat to keep the seatbelt (for non-latch systems) tight.
I feel your seatbelt may work fine, the speed of your body would lock the seatbelt in case of an accident.
But please find a certified car seat installer to ease your mind, once you talk with someone they will be able to give you educated answers as opposed to all of us professionals because we have kids.
There are staggering numbers involving car seat safety. Don't be a statistic.

Enjoy and Congrats!

btw: Good job on seeking out advice, and don't trust those tie downs for anything more than diapers. Your child is way to precious to trust those things in any way.

amyers22 05-22-2013 11:15 AM

Thank you all for all of your help with this so far. I am still not sure on my seatbelts though. They do not lock after pulling them out all of the way. Is this standard on the rear seatbelts of the 2002 Wrangler or are they more than likely broken? Any recommendations on where to get replacement rear seat belts?

Thanks

Jerry Bransford 05-22-2013 11:20 AM

Our TJ's seatbelts won't lock no matter how fast you pull out on them. They have an inertia device built into the seat belt mechanism that locks it up only during an impact or if the Jeep is on a steep enough surface.


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