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FIREMEDIC82 06-10-2013 04:12 AM

JK NOOB! (Soft Top Help!)
 
Hey all, as you all may have seen from my previous posts, I just got an 08 JK of Friday June 7.
The Next day, I took the side windows off. Few Questions about a hard top

1) I just put them back on this morning as I am working all day, and the threat for thunderstorms exists. The "latch" on the windows that goes into the door frame area seems very loose. It is zipped up all the way, velcro, and latch secured on the bottom. How do you folks put the windows on? Do you zip first then latch or vise versa?

2) Should I always take out the rear window if the sides are off?

3) Soft top Storage; I never plan on FULLY removing the soft top as thunderstorms just kinda "pop" around here, but I am going to take it down. I am purchasing the tuffy security deck. Anyone know if this will get in the way? Whats the best way to "wrap up" the top when it is down wth the tuffy?

Any other important things I should know?

FIREMEDIC82 06-10-2013 04:44 AM

Also... as far as taking the doors off... what do you all think the easiest solution is?

redbilly 06-10-2013 05:55 AM

As far as the back window, I do take mine off when the side are off as well. I feel like the rear window grabs wind like a sail other wise and could stretch or damage. I zip first, then secure the two plastic retainers under the side, then Velcro.

For the doors, I roll down the windows, disengage the power cord, unbolt the T50 bolts, then when I am ready to rock, I unhook the catch and grab the door through the window. I hold the very top o the door through the window opening, and I could rest it on my shoulder if I get tired. I store them in garage on an old welcome mat. Having the windows open also helps me get a better grip when I am reinstalling the doors later on. I grab the bottom and top at the same time and it help to guide the bolts one the receivers.

MTH 06-10-2013 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by FIREMEDIC82 (Post 3844012)
1) I just put them back on this morning as I am working all day, and the threat for thunderstorms exists. The "latch" on the windows that goes into the door frame area seems very loose. It is zipped up all the way, velcro, and latch secured on the bottom. How do you folks put the windows on? Do you zip first then latch or vise versa?

There is no "latch," and the windows should be very tight.

Your description indicates you're making a very common error in installing the windows.

Here is my typical response, cut-and-pasted from elsewhere:

1) use Velcro to loosely hold window in place.
2) zip only about 4 inches of zipper.
3) fold the solid strip of the door-side of the window 180 degrees into the channel in the black plastic "door surround" that abuts the door when the window is out. The strip will literally have been folded over such that it wraps around the door surround.
4) zip the rest of the window.
5) pop in the lower edging of the window into the channel along the upper edge of the jeep. This is very much like what was done in step 3.
6) fix the Velcro.
7) admire own handiwork.

Window will be very tight. Nothing flaps in the breeze.

Post back with any questions.

FIREMEDIC82 06-10-2013 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by redbilly (Post 3844131)
As far as the back window, I do take mine off when the side are off as well. I feel like the rear window grabs wind like a sail other wise and could stretch or damage. I zip first, then secure the two plastic retainers under the side, then Velcro.

For the doors, I roll down the windows, disengage the power cord, unbolt the T50 bolts, then when I am ready to rock, I unhook the catch and grab the door through the window. I hold the very top o the door through the window opening, and I could rest it on my shoulder if I get tired. I store them in garage on an old welcome mat. Having the windows open also helps me get a better grip when I am reinstalling the doors later on. I grab the bottom and top at the same time and it help to guide the bolts one the receivers.

What about the dome light? Do you have any solutions for the side window latch issue? I do not think it will be a problem, as I do not think I will be driving doorless with the side windows on.

MTH 06-10-2013 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by FIREMEDIC82 (Post 3844152)

What about the dome light? Do you have any solutions for the side window latch issue? I do not think it will be a problem, as I do not think I will be driving doorless with the side windows on.

When you remove your doors, you'll need to unplug a wire that runs from the jeep into each door. Doing that tells the jeep not to turn the done light on even though the doors aren't closed.

FIREMEDIC82 06-10-2013 06:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MTH (Post 3844151)
There is no "latch," and the windows should be very tight.

Your description indicates you're making a very common error in installing the windows.

Here is my typical response, cut-and-pasted from elsewhere:

1) use Velcro to loosely hold window in place.
2) zip only about 4 inches of zipper.
3) fold the solid strip of the door-side of the window 180 degrees into the channel in the black plastic "door surround" that abuts the door when the window is out. The strip will literally have been folded over such that it wraps around the door surround.
4) zip the rest of the window.
5) pop in the lower edging of the window into the channel along the upper edge of the jeep. This is very much like what was done in step 3.
6) fix the Velcro.
7) admire own handiwork.

Window will be very tight. Nothing flaps in the breeze.

Post back with any questions.

Step 3 is what I must be screwing up. When I say "latch" I mean that hard plastic strip (working graveyard.... forgive me). When I say it is loose, I simply mean I can open my driver door, and it pretty much pops out of place without any effort from me. The rest of the window is tight.
As I stated in the other reply, I doubt this will be a problem as my doors will be on if side windows are on.

Do you have any input as far as the Tuffy lock and Soft top storage are concerned?

FIREMEDIC82 06-10-2013 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by MTH (Post 3844156)
When you remove your doors, you'll need to unplug a wire that runs from the jeep into each door. Doing that tells the jeep not to turn the done light on even though the doors aren't closed.

Oh ok. Thanks!

dadrunamok 06-10-2013 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by FIREMEDIC82 (Post 3844158)
When I say it is loose, I simply mean I can open my driver door, and it pretty much pops out of place without any effort from me. The rest of the window is tight.
As I stated in the other reply, I doubt this will be a problem as my doors will be on if side windows are on.

There are two rows of stitching on the forward side of the window. If you install it correctly, you will only be able to the one closer to the window itself, running straight up the door surround and it will sit flat. Once you've got it in there as it should be, the window will stay put whether or not you have the doors on.

FIREMEDIC82 06-10-2013 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by dadrunamok (Post 3844186)
There are two rows of stitching on the forward side of the window. If you install it correctly, you will only be able to the one closer to the window itself, running straight up the door surround and it will sit flat. Once you've got it in there as it should be, the window will stay put whether or not you have the doors on.

I will have to take a look and try again. Thanks

MTH 06-10-2013 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by FIREMEDIC82 (Post 3844158)

Step 3 is what I must be screwing up. When I say "latch" I mean that hard plastic strip (working graveyard.... forgive me). When I say it is loose, I simply mean I can open my driver door, and it pretty much pops out of place without any effort from me. The rest of the window is tight.
As I stated in the other reply, I doubt this will be a problem as my doors will be on if side windows are on.

Do you have any input as far as the Tuffy lock and Soft top storage are concerned?

Correct. Step 3 is the issue.

The hard plastic strip is NOT meant to be pinched or held by the door in any way, and the door won't secure it.

Rather, when putting the windows on you must open the door and then follow the instructions I provided. The hard plastic strip is actually meant to be folded BACK and INTO the piece of black plastic that sits immediately behind the window (called the "door surround").

There's a narrow channel that faces the front of the jeep in the door surround that accepts the hard black plastic embedded in the window, much the same way as the black plastic strip on the bottom of the window slides into a channel on the body of the jeep.

In other words, both the door-side of the window AND the bottom of the window have hard plastic strips that slide into narrow receiving channels attached to the jeep. If you're not sliding the strip on the door-side of the window into a receiving channel the same way you're sliding the strip on the bottom of the window into a receiving channel, then you're doing it wrong.

Additionally, you need to make sure you've only zipped about 4" of the zipper (as noted in the instructions I set out) prior to trying to slide the door-side strip into the door surround, because after you zip much farther it will be too tight to get it to sit properly.

FIREMEDIC82 06-10-2013 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by MTH (Post 3844574)
Correct. Step 3 is the issue.

The hard plastic strip is NOT meant to be pinched or held by the door in any way, and the door won't secure it.

Rather, when putting the windows on you must open the door and then follow the instructions I provided. The hard plastic strip is actually meant to be folded BACK and INTO the piece of black plastic that sits immediately behind the window (called the "door surround").

There's a narrow channel that faces the front of the jeep in the door surround that accepts the hard black plastic embedded in the window, much the same way as the black plastic strip on the bottom of the window slides into a channel on the body of the jeep.

You need to make sure you've only zipped about 4" of the zipper (as noted in the instructions I set out) prior to trying to slide the strip into the door surround, because after you zip much farther it will be too tight to get it to sit properly.

I tried it again, and I got it.
I unzipped it, and pulled forward a bit and got it fine. Thanks for the help!

MTH 06-10-2013 09:26 AM

Excellent. :thumb:

Your job is now to stick around and answer this question for somebody else when it comes up next week. :D

I've never used the Tuffy deck, by the way. So I have no comments on it.

panthermark 06-10-2013 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by MTH (Post 3844605)
Excellent. :thumb:

Your job is now to stick around and answer this question for somebody else when it comes up next week. :D

I've never used the Tuffy deck, by the way. So I have no comments on it.

:rofl: So true...

FIREMEDIC82 06-10-2013 11:30 AM

[QUOTE=panthermark;3844698]:rofl: So true...[/QU
I shall keep my eyes open!

FIREMEDIC82 06-10-2013 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MTH (Post 3844605)
Excellent. :thumb:

Your job is now to stick around and answer this question for somebody else when it comes up next week. :D

I've never used the Tuffy deck, by the way. So I have no comments on it.

I shall keep my eyes peeled


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