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Ladyusmc 06-10-2013 03:24 PM

Tire opinions
 
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So I recently bought a 2004 wrangler unlimited stock and I'm ready to start making mods. It is my primary vehicle mon-Fri and I spend sat and sun driving all over North Carolina- sand, water, forest, mud. I'm an active duty marine so I'm constantly throwing gear in it and I have two German shorthaired pointers I take hunting- so I need a functional and high performance vehicle. I'm thinking the first three things I need to do are suspension lift, tires and rhino line the inside. That being said, I bought a straight six because all the research I did said they are easy to work on - but I'm startin from scratch here - zero knowledge, willing to put in the time research and elbow grease. I just need some guidance on where to start!! So far I think I've narrowed lift brands to terraflex, skyjack and faptech (sp?) and the tires to general grabber at or bf Goodridch mud terrain. That is literally as far as I've gotten. Any help, advice, opinions are welcomed ! Xx, Katie
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GoldenSahara00 06-10-2013 03:29 PM

I would not go with any of the lifts you mentioned.

Do you know what size of tire you would like to run? That will help determine what lift you need.

I'll tell you right now. 3 inches and under are cheap, over that are expensive to do correctly. We are talking 500 bucks versus 2 grand.

Jerry Bransford 06-10-2013 03:42 PM

Do you have an idea yet what size tires you want to be able to run? Once we know that we can come up with a few suspension lift height recommendations. And is your budget reasonable enough to be able to do things right or are you thinking you'll need to take shortcuts that may not be optimal?

Ladyusmc 06-10-2013 04:02 PM

I am looking at 33" 10.5


Why not either of those lifts?

I'm not cutting corners

Walkingstick 06-10-2013 04:09 PM

Fabtech haha not Fap Tech.

GoldenSahara00 06-10-2013 04:13 PM

You want to achieve 4 inches of lift between suspension and body to run 33s. I would suggest a 2.5 or 3 inch suspension lift and a 1 inch or 1.25 inch body lift, no more than that. The brands you mentioned are not well known for quality. If you do decide to look into a smaller lift, some good ones are zone, OME, currie/savvy, and a few others. I am sure people will chime in. If you want to go with a 4 inch suspension lift and no body lift, you will need to spend a bit more to buy a new rear drive shaft, slip yoke eliminator, adjustable control arms, and the kit itself will cost more. You should probably get control arms all around at that height.

Good 33 inch tires are the cooper STT, MTR with kevlar, and duratrac.

Jerry Bransford 06-10-2013 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldenSahara00 (Post 3845873)
You want to achieve 4 inches of lift between suspension and body to run 33s. I would suggest a 2.5 or 3 inch suspension lift and a 1 inch or 1.25 inch body lift, no more than that. The brands you mentioned are not well known for quality. If you do decide to look into a smaller lift, some good ones are zone, OME, currie/savvy, and a few others. I am sure people will chime in. If you want to go with a 4 inch suspension lift and no body lift, you will need to spend a bit more to buy a new rear drive shaft, slip yoke eliminator, adjustable control arms, and the kit itself will cost more. You should probably get control arms all around at that height.

Good 33 inch tires are the cooper STT, MTR with kevlar, and duratrac.

Good advice right there. For 33" tires, you really should have 4" total of lift which can be done well without cutting corners with the combination of a 3" suspension lift plus a 1" body lift as suggested by GoldenSahara00. It gets expensive once you get to a 4" suspension lift height due to the steep angles at the rear driveshaft & its u-joints it causes.

thecheph 06-10-2013 05:21 PM

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I am running a Black Diamond 2.5" with smittybilt tub fenders with 33-12.50 15. With this setup I did not need a lift.

Ladyusmc 06-10-2013 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Walkingstick (Post 3845857)
Fabtech haha not Fap Tech.

Haha told ya I'm a rookie!

Ladyusmc 06-10-2013 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Walkingstick (Post 3845857)
Fabtech haha not Fap Tech.

Haha told you I'm a rookie!!

Ladyusmc 06-10-2013 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by thecheph (Post 3846082)
I am running a Black Diamond 2.5" with smittybilt tub fenders with 33-12.50 15. With this setup I did not need a lift.

Alright another "I'm new" question - what's a black diamond 2.5" ?

I was told getting 33 - 12.5 15 would rub if I hit any uneven terrain and had to do a hard turn?

Walkingstick 06-10-2013 06:04 PM

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Alright another "I'm new" question - what's a black diamond 2.5" ?

I was told getting 33 - 12.5 15 would rub if I hit any uneven terrain and had to do a hard turn?

Black Diamond is a company and 2.5 is the lift height.
I have a crappy suspension spacer lift(3 inch i think) with 33x12.5 tires and go off road but i took my fender flares off.

Walkingstick 06-10-2013 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Ladyusmc (Post 3846198)

Alright another "I'm new" question - what's a black diamond 2.5" ?

I was told getting 33 - 12.5 15 would rub if I hit any uneven terrain and had to do a hard turn?

Safest bet though is a 4" inch lift kit if you don't want to mess with your fenders.

Sldrvr 06-10-2013 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Ladyusmc (Post 3846187)
Haha told you I'm a rookie!!

Devil Dog don't worry I have been going through much of the same mental PT as you are. I just recent;y purchased an 06 unlimited and finally decided on an OME 2" heavy and 32 10.50sX15s BFG ATs... I really liked the Goodyear Duratrac's but the they didn't make in 32 so that is the only reason I din't got with them. I would recommend you check with DPG Offroad, they have a sweet OME kit that will allow you to run 33s with no problem and 35s with just some minor mods. I have read just about everyone of the threads on here regarding tires, lifts etc... and I echo they others when they say all the lifts you are looking at haven't gotten rave reviews. I also noticed a lot of people really like the GY Dura and M/Ts... I was just looking for something that was pretty quite on road and and some lift to beef up a bit.

P.S. I'm a retired Marine and spent alot of time down at Lejeune... Good luck!

techflork 06-10-2013 10:19 PM

if you do want to mess with fenders look at Metal Cloak fenders. You can fit 35's with NO lift. For offroad trails 33's should flex nicely and fit well. I'm doing this in August, guess we'll see how it goes!

Austin14 06-10-2013 10:53 PM

33x12.5-15 arnt going to rub with a 3" lift. Maybe even a 2". And I would recommend General Grabbers. I'm running them in 35s and the tires are great no complaints at all

spencerlj 06-10-2013 11:31 PM

I put a 3" BDS lift on with 33x12.5x15 Mickey Thompson Baja MTZs. We have a thread on this lift if you want to read it at http://www.wranglerforum.com/f5/call...html?highlight=. There is also the TJ Lift thread that is one of the Sticky threads you should review. Lots of the different reviews of the lifts are posted there so you can see lots of different opinions/options.

My experience on road has been better than stock and like you, I live in NC. It has been great in the mountains here with my combo.


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