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Dogger631 06-10-2013 09:27 PM

New to Jeeps need wheels
I just got my first Jeep. A 2013 wrangler 4door Sahara. I want to start a few mods and although my tires are new, I'd like some wheels. What's the deal with back spacing? I'm pretty confused. I plan on new tires in the future, probably Nitto since I had such great luck with them on my trucks, so I want to plan my wheels around 33" or 35" tires. I'm interested in XD Rockstars or Moto Metal MO961. What do I do? Which bolt pattern? 5x127 or 5x5?

I also looked into a lift and a PA lift was recommended since it doesn't alter the suspension

dawhitesJKU 06-10-2013 11:18 PM

What is a PA lift?

Dogger631 06-11-2013 03:29 AM

Performance Accessories. They do body lifts and leveling kits. I usually do body lifts on my trucks because I don't like to alter the suspension which usually alters payload capacity or towing. PA is just a brand I have used. They offer a 4" lift that is a combination of a suspension and body lift. I don't know how a jeep would like a body lift.

dawhitesJKU 06-11-2013 09:58 AM

Since the uncertainty of choosing 33s or 35s is still up in the air, a 2.5 leveling or coil suspension kit will suffice. It gives great looks on a 33 and can also fit a 35. A 2.5 will not alter the driveline as much....a budget friendly kit is the teraflex leveling kit for $130 that comes with rear links, or a teraflex 2.5 coil lift for about $450. You can also go with a rubicon express 2.5 with mono tube shocks which are basically tuned, repainted bilsteins for about 600... U can find deals with our vendors too. Good luck.

CHIEF-IN-DC 06-11-2013 10:22 AM

Jeeps are made for 35's. don't go smaller. You will regret it. I promise. I would also say 3" lift too. Opinions are like a-holes right?

Dogger631 06-12-2013 08:44 AM

ok. So now that I am looking at an actual lift kit, I am still having trouble with wheels. What I really like are Moto Metal MO961, 18x9. The specs say offset is +18 but says nothing about backspacing. I searched the internet for the backspacing, and in a forum it said that the backspacing may be 4.60. I am going to use my factory tires at first, will these wheels not work? and once I add some offroad tread, could I just add spacers to get the 4.60 to under 4.50? Sorry for so many questions.

dawhitesJKU 06-12-2013 11:27 AM

^have you tried looking into the ballistic jester wheels? they have better fitment, looks almost identical, cheaper, and have smaller sizes which are better for offroad...the tires for smaller wheels will be much cheaper as well.

now if your still liking the moto metals (i was gonna get the same wheels btw) they will fit w/out the need of spacers...i talked to a member a while back that had em. i forgot his username though.

with your factory tires, it will fit, however it will expose the wheel and not have enough protection against curbs.

handcm 06-12-2013 11:42 AM

What do you mean exposť the wheel? Like the lip of the stock tire will not match up with the width of the wheel?

dawhitesJKU 06-12-2013 12:24 PM

^ may or may not depending on the tire/wheel width. the moto metals are 18x10 or 18x9. the stock tires are about 10' wide. the 18x10 will probably be enough to expose the wheels a little bit.

Dogger631 06-12-2013 04:08 PM

I want to do the 18x9s. I understand what you meant by lip because the width of the rim may be very close to the width of the tire itself., especially if I went with the 10" width. I am trying to work on a budget, so I figured, new wheels that can accommodate the factory tires for now, then replace the factory tires with something more suited. With my job, I doubt I wil get very much offroad time, and when I do, mostly everything is just flat terrain. If I really get into the offroad scene, I would probably do a set of 15" steel wheels and tires. Cheaper, and the steel can be banged back in shape.

dawhitesJKU 06-12-2013 04:16 PM

Remember, your jeep is still very capable in stock form. some people even wheel with the stock tires.

Dogger631 06-12-2013 07:45 PM

now that i am trying to figure out this back spacing thing. I was looking at Rockstar wheels which I had on my last truck, the backspacing on 18x9 for 5x5 bolt pattern is 5.00 so I would need to add a wheel spacer of about 1" to get the backspacing to within the recommended backspacing of 4.5 to 3.75?

dawhitesJKU 06-13-2013 12:43 PM

yes you will need spacers. try to avoid using them if possible when you get new wheels.

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