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AGGIE_Rubicon 06-11-2013 10:13 PM

Total Vehicle height after 2.5 & 3.5 lift with 35x12.5R17
 
As the title says I am looking at getting a lift with 35" tires and I can't decide 2.5 or 3.5 in lift. I would like to have the 3.5 but I MUST be able to fit in the garage. So if anyone would mind taking a measurement from the ground to the top rear corner with the mentioned setup a I would appreciate it. Would you also please include the brand and size of both lift and tires. Thanks for the help I am really enjoying the forum

AGGIE_Rubicon 06-13-2013 10:23 PM

Bump still looking for help

Tweak 06-13-2013 10:52 PM

im on a 3.5 RK lift (so probably 4.5in) on 37" tires and its just over 6 foot 4. barely fits in the garage.

ThatWhiteMachine101 06-13-2013 10:56 PM

Gotta buddy on 3.5" lift and 35s, fits in the garage.

rijowysock 06-13-2013 11:22 PM

would depend on garage height, most doors are 7', my 997+bike is over 7'.. i would assume a JK with 3.5" and 35's would be damn pushing it.

AGGIE_Rubicon 06-14-2013 07:06 PM

Thanks for the response my garage has exactly 7ft high entry way so I need to stay below that. So if someone with the setups can take a measurement I would love to see what you have. I dont want a :doh: moment.

TexasRubi 06-14-2013 07:17 PM

You will be fine if your garage is a true 84". Was in the same boat as you debating but my garage is 77.75" when you factor in the trim and the lip on the cement. So, I'm doing a 2.5 game changer. Had 5.5" clearance with hardtop and 60" rear springs. I'm on 35's (duratrac so small diameter compared to other brands) now, no lift while awaiting delivery of it and currently have 4.25" clearance. The 2.5 GCL should give me an inch or so to spare (lite jeep so I'll net more than 2.5) and have probably 3 - 3.5 added height. I would have gone 3.5 but wasn't into airing down or modifying the garage. Parking outside wasn't an option because our driveway is single lane and splits at the end to our 2 car garage. Work car stays on the street already. So, your only choice now is what lift since you'll clear either.

Edit, just make sure you have 84" because my garage opening is over 80" but once you measure the true opening as the vehicle pulls in its considerably less. Also make sure you take multiple measurements along the garage as I found one side of mine to be a full inch and a half taller.

boilermaker_yv 06-14-2013 07:34 PM

I have 35s (effective height is 34 1/8") and Rubicon Express 2.5" and my Jeep is 6'3"

FYI no 35" tire actually measures 35" in height

dwindeck 06-14-2013 07:46 PM

I run a 4.5 AEV and 37" KM2's and a hard top. Standard door height and mine clears with at least 3", I also store my buddies...AEV 4.5" 37 MTR's (1/2" taller than the BFG's) with a soft top which is higher than a hard top, his has a couple inches to spare. We both have front/rear bumpers tire carrier's, winches ect which weight them down a bit. You should be fine.

SBL 06-15-2013 09:26 AM

I have a 13 rubicon with a 2.5" AEV lift and 315/75/17 duratracs on stock rubi wheels. I am right a 77" with the soft top on but if I am in sunrider mode I am just under 81". My garage door at my house is 82" so it is tight.

AGGIE_Rubicon 06-15-2013 06:42 PM

Great information guys and thanks for taking the time to measure and respond. I have 82.5" if you include the concrete lip so I should be just fine with the 3.5 also considering I have full front and rear bumpers with tire carrier and a winch on the front. I think I am going move forward with the 3.5" lift. I just have to be able to fit in the garage because I am planning on putting company logo decals on my jeep and my HOA doesn't allow them if not in the garage. if all else fails I can leave the logos off if it comes to that.

AGGIE_Rubicon 06-15-2013 07:00 PM

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I just thought I would include a few before and current pictures to say thanks for the help. I will have more to come soon I am planning on the lift and tires the next month.

Dubler 06-16-2013 12:23 AM

Call the lift company. I did. According to AEV I could fit a 3.5 lift in my small ass garage (72")

AGGIE_Rubicon 06-16-2013 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Dubler (Post 3865127)
Call the lift company. I did. According to AEV I could fit a 3.5 lift in my small ass garage (72")

That's a good idea thanks ill do that

JeepHerz 06-16-2013 12:33 PM

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Have you considered your driveshaft? Anything above 2.5" and you'll have geometry issues. The pic below is my driveshaft boot sitting on my exhaust (that is at full droop FYI). Not good. If you're Jeep is a DD only maybe you'll be okay and you won't hit much. But for me it's $500 for new driveshafts- not chancing it. If I didn't rock crawl and weren't accident prone I'd do 2.5" and call it a day. You can still do 35s, look good, be capable and save yourself some trouble. Oh and fit in your garage.

JTPhoto JK 06-16-2013 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Dubler (Post 3865127)
Call the lift company. I did. According to AEV I could fit a 3.5 lift in my small ass garage (72")

Seriously. My daughters 2dr with 2.5" lift and 35s is 77" with a softtop.
My unlimited is 78" with the softtop on 3.5".

AGGIE_Rubicon 06-16-2013 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by JeepHerz (Post 3866251)
Have you considered your driveshaft? Anything above 2.5" and you'll have geometry issues. The pic below is my driveshaft boot sitting on my exhaust (that is at full droop FYI). Not good. If you're Jeep is a DD only maybe you'll be okay and you won't hit much. But for me it's $500 for new driveshafts- not chancing it. If I didn't rock crawl and weren't accident prone I'd do 2.5" and call it a day. You can still do 35s, look good, be capable and save yourself some trouble. Oh and fit in your garage.

Yeah I have been doing a lot of reading and I am aware if the issue and don't mind doing what it takes to make everything right I am just being very indecisive on the look I want. My job is sponsoring the parts so if I need to change out the driveshafts and or exhaust modification I will do it. My main concern is the look and the garage . Decisions, decisions!

JeepHerz 06-16-2013 01:39 PM

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74" to 74.5" (sloped driveway). 3" Mopar, 35" MTRs. Lotsa armor; front bumper, winch, TF rear tire hinge. Bad shot but all I have with new 35s.
Don't forget there is a big difference w/tire height. A 35" MTR will be taller than a 35" KM2 for instance.

AverageJK 06-16-2013 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Dubler (Post 3865127)
Call the lift company. I did. According to AEV I could fit a 3.5 lift in my small ass garage (72")


My stock height is 70" so I dont know about that one.

AGGIE_Rubicon 06-17-2013 09:00 PM

Well I have made up my mind I am just going to play it safe and go with the 2.5 lift. Would someone explain this tire height thing to me. Why are there differences in height with the same size but different brand?

spieg 06-17-2013 09:11 PM

A little late to the party, but my '13 jkur with aev's 3.5 RS sits around 77" in the rear with no top, stock bumper / no spare, and 315 70/17 duratracs.

JeepHerz 06-17-2013 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by AGGIE_Rubicon (Post 3871149)
Well I have made up my mind I am just going to play it safe and go with the 2.5 lift. Would someone explain this tire height thing to me. Why are there differences in height with the same size but different brand?

Good question. You'd think a 35" is a 35"... But it's not. Ie: KM2s run a little small but they're not the only ones. Most tire sites will list exact measurements. If you're going 2.5 it won't matter much- we're talking 1/2" here. Only mentioning in case you were cutting it close. (Weight variance is big also; a Toyo or Nito is a heavy tire. )
I started with Toyos- never installed them. Swapped for 305/70 KM2. Re-geared and switched those for 35" (true) MTRs.

AGGIE_Rubicon 06-17-2013 09:51 PM

Hmmm...so it really is just a slight difference in how they are made but I can see why if I were going with a 3.5" it could make it or break it. I am considering either the Toyo MTs or the Goodyear MTRs I ordered my wheels but still havent ordered the tires because I can't decide. (I wasn't going to install them until i did the lift anyways) I am ordering the lift the first of next month so I guess I better make up my mind.

xcraftllc 06-17-2013 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by JeepHerz (Post 3866251)
Have you considered your driveshaft? Anything above 2.5" and you'll have geometry issues. The pic below is my driveshaft boot sitting on my exhaust (that is at full droop FYI). Not good. If you're Jeep is a DD only maybe you'll be okay and you won't hit much. But for me it's $500 for new driveshafts- not chancing it. If I didn't rock crawl and weren't accident prone I'd do 2.5" and call it a day. You can still do 35s, look good, be capable and save yourself some trouble. Oh and fit in your garage.

You're right that a driveshaft used to be the only fix for that but simple and cheap exhaust mods are now the standard for lifts up to about 4 inches. I'm sure if you went 6" though, you'd probably have to do both.

I've been running this on my 2012 with a 4" lift off road for quite a while now with no issues:
Jeep JK Wrangler Exhaust Extensions

JeepHerz 06-18-2013 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by xcraftllc (Post 3871522)
You're right that a driveshaft used to be the only fix for that but simple and cheap exhaust mods are now the standard for lifts up to about 4 inches. I'm sure if you went 6" though, you'd probably have to do both.

I've been running this on my 2012 with a 4" lift off road for quite a while now with no issues:
Jeep JK Wrangler Exhaust Extensions


Good point. I do have a TeraFlex exhaust spacer. But I think its a little shorter than yours so yours must get it out of the way more. That does bring up the point you can also re-route your entire exhaust as an alternative.
I'll be replacing the drive shaft- gives me a beefier one and gets rid of the plastic boot. One less thing I have to worry about breaking while rock crawling. The benefits outweigh tinkering with the exhaust for me. (But $40 is cheaper than $500).

utjdh04 06-18-2013 01:40 PM

You should be okay getting it into the garage. My JKUR has a 3.5" DS AEV lift w/35" Toyo M/Ts and it fits fine with either the hardtop or soft top. I, too, replaced my drive shafts, as one boot got punctured when rock crawling the first time out.

Had MT/Rs before. Got Toyos this time b/c the Goodyears were on back order, but I've been very happy with the Toyos. They don't seem to chunk as much as GYs on the rocks, IMO.

JeepHerz 06-18-2013 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by utjdh04 (Post 3873615)
You should be okay getting it into the garage. My JKUR has a 3.5" DS AEV lift w/35" Toyo M/Ts and it fits fine with either the hardtop or soft top. I, too, replaced my drive shafts, as one boot got punctured when rock crawling the first time out.

Had MT/Rs before. Got Toyos this time b/c the Goodyears were on back order, but I've been very happy with the Toyos. They don't seem to chunk as much as GYs on the rocks, IMO.

Yup. Both are good tires. The Toyo's look bad a**. Still my favorite looks wise but the weight killed 'em for me. KM2s are a good tire too. Don't discount them OP because of the size- just know what you're getting. Your average human being would never notice. But Jeepers are not normal LOL.

Which driveshaft you go with UTJD?

utjdh04 06-18-2013 03:06 PM

Automotive Driveline drive shafts.

BTW, I found the before/after measurements. It went from the highest point before of 72" to 77". The 35" Toyos measured 34" mounted. Go figure.

JeepHerz 06-18-2013 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by utjdh04 (Post 3873911)
Automotive Driveline drive shafts.

BTW, I found the before/after measurements. It went from the highest point before of 72" to 77". The 35" Toyos measured 34" mounted. Go figure.

That's surprising. My MTRs are 35" mounted.

xcraftllc 06-18-2013 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by JeepHerz (Post 3873269)
Good point. I do have a TeraFlex exhaust spacer. But I think its a little shorter than yours so yours must get it out of the way more. That does bring up the point you can also re-route your entire exhaust as an alternative.
I'll be replacing the drive shaft- gives me a beefier one and gets rid of the plastic boot. One less thing I have to worry about breaking while rock crawling. The benefits outweigh tinkering with the exhaust for me. (But $40 is cheaper than $500).

Yep, I plan (dream) on going with coilovers one day and I'll totally replace the driveshaft in the process, hopefully my stock one holds out that long!

Also as for the total hieght issue, there was a thread that came out before that talked about it, I believe I actually posted my height too (I got about 1.5 inches of clearance in my garage, and that was after I adjusted the stops on the garage opener to make it open up all the way!). There is a formula for it, it goes something like this:

The stock jk is 70.9 inches high with 31 inch tires, 69.9 with 29s, and 71.4 with 32s (don't quote me on that, it of course depends on what kind of weight you have and how much tire pressure you're running) but it's pretty much that). So lets halve the tire diameter and subtract it to give us a base line, it's about 55.4.
So:
base line is 55.4
Tire diameter in inches is T
lift size in inches is L
JK height in inches is H

Therefore:

H = 55.4 + 1/2T + L

I think...:thumb:


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