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Sucker Punch 06-14-2013 04:59 PM

2014 JKUS or 2014 JKUR???
 
Hello everyone! This is my first post as a member. I have been on this forum many times in the past and finally have joined. I am not new to Jeeps, but I am new to the JKU Jeep. I am trying to decide on which will be the best fit for me.

First I will say that I have a 84 CJ7 I can use for the heavy offroading. The JKU is mainly for family fun - 90% onroad and maybe 10% light offroad (no rock crawling) - These are the initial plans for it.

My plans are to go with a 2.5" lift and 35's... and possibly as big as 37's.

Here are the basics of my order list for the Sport or the Rubicon.

JKU Sport
3.73 gears
auto

or

JKU Rubicon
4.10 gears
auto


My main questions. Will the 3.73 gears on the automatic sport be enough for the 35's and possibly 37 inch tires?

Will the dana 30 on the sport do ok with the 35's or possibly 37's?

I'm just having trouble spending at least another 7,000 for the rubicon when all I really want is the dana 44 and 4.10 gears.

I really want to make a wise decision as I do not ever plan on selling this Jeep.


Are the 3.73 gears enough for 35 or 37" tires?
Is the dana 30 going to hold up to the 35 or 37" tires?

Like I stated above - this is going to be mainly driven on the road and only moderate trail use - nothing extreme.

Thanks for any info or knowledge you can pass my way.

I am hoping to order in the next month or two depending on color availabilities, etc.

dawhitesJKU 06-14-2013 07:43 PM

the sport w/ 3.73 will suffice. its enough to roll the 35's not much so the 37's. theres a member w/ 3.21 and 37's and he said its fine. it's very much subjective though.

anything that can break a d44 can break a d30. The 30 and 44 use the same basic housings - tube diameter and wall thickness are the same. The differences are the center sections and the stock shaft spline count. Both will take 35 spline axles.

the price difference is very significant especially when adding all the bells and whistles...at the end, it will be based on budget.

good luck.

Sucker Punch 06-14-2013 07:53 PM

Thanks for the response! I have been leaning toward the sport and that leaves enough money in the budget for the lift and tires I want right off the bat! :dance:

dawhitesJKU 06-14-2013 08:01 PM

a guy who bought a rubi the same time i bought my sport was planning to leave it as is w/ no intentions of ever going offroad. he probably never used the lockers and auto disconnects to this day, and to me thats just a waste of hard earned money.

Sucker Punch 06-14-2013 08:26 PM

I agree with you. I personally don't need the lockers at this stage. Once/if this JKU ever turns into a strictly offroad machine I will upgrade axles and lockers at a future date.

I just wanted to make sure the 3.73 gears and dana 30 would do ok with 35's or possibly 37's for mostly on road use

jadmt 06-14-2013 09:56 PM

If you have the ability to get either one then you really should get the rubicon. I bought a new 2013 JKU sport thinking I would never really take advantage of the rubicons features and I am kicking myself. Even tho I am not hard core just light stuff the features that the rubi offers are not going to be a determent for a DD but the features the sport lacks are a determent for even moderate off road. Contrary to what everybody says once you have one you can not get even close to your money back out of it. My 2013 Sport with 10K miles and7 months old and not a scratch has the dealers saying not really interested in giving you anything for it. You take a $5-6000 hit right off the bat. They all say the same thing. Nobody really wants a newer used wrangler as they would rather buy new.

panthermark 06-14-2013 10:03 PM

You can get by with the 35's and 3.73's. 4.10's would be better.
You should not consider 37's with 3.73's. While on that topic..37's and a daily driver that won't off-road much seems to be a bit of a contradiction. That is a lot of money to spend on wheels that will be on the pavement.

jadmt 06-14-2013 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by panthermark (Post 3862211)
You can get by with the 35's and 3.73's. 4.10's would be better.
You should not consider 37's with 3.73's. While on that topic..37's and a daily driver that won't off-road much seems to be a bit of a contradiction. That is a lot of money to spend on wheels that will be on the pavement.

I agree 100%

Sucker Punch 06-14-2013 10:24 PM

I don't disagree about the 37's. I know it is overkill and an added expense. I just like the look of 37's on the JKU's. 95% sure I will settle for 35's and be happy with them.

jigaloo 06-15-2013 06:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jadmt (Post 3862189)
My 2013 Sport with 10K miles and7 months old and not a scratch has the dealers saying not really interested in giving you anything for it. You take a $5-6000 hit right off the bat. They all say the same thing. Nobody really wants a newer used wrangler as they would rather buy new.

Taking a $5-6k hit would be for any new vehicle that leaves the dealer's lot...just sayin'...

Did you try selling it private party?

jadmt 06-15-2013 07:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jigaloo (Post 3862811)
Taking a $5-6k hit would be for any new vehicle that leaves the dealer's lot...just sayin'...

Did you try selling it private party?

I only took a $3000 hit on a 3 year old civic that I sold to get my wrangler. I sold a year old CRV for $500 under what I paid for it. I realize new vehicles usually take a big hit on depreciation my point is that many people always say get a new wrangler and if you don't like it you won't take a big hit on it.

Never got a single bite via private party. I think one issue is I live in an area where wranglers are very common. People rarely wave here because you see 10 of them on your way to work. Another issue I am sure is the worlds largest jeep dealership is 120 miles away (I bought mine there) and they sell them all day long 500 under invoice with no hassles.

ahsumtoy 06-15-2013 08:13 AM

I Disagree
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jadmt (Post 3862189)
If you have the ability to get either one then you really should get the rubicon. Even tho I am not hard core just light stuff the features that the rubi offers are not going to be a determent for a DD but the features the sport lacks are a determent for even moderate off road.

I bought a 2013 JKU Oscar Mike Edition. It has 3.73 gears. I raised it and put 33's on it. I have taken my Jeep on moderate and even some difficult trails and have had no problems doing so. I realize without lockers I am not going to go everywhere, but to say the Sport features are a determent for even moderate off roading is wrong in my opinion. My jeep came with LSD which really helps as well, plus the driver has a lot to do with it. Since it sounds like this guy has another jeep for the hard stuff, why invest more money for the Rubi? I know I wouldn't in his case.

jadmt 06-15-2013 10:13 AM

determent was probably the wrong word. Capable is probably a better word. I agree drivers have everything to do with it, a great driver in a Rubicon will go more places then a great driver in a non rubi and a great driver in a non rubi will go more places then a poor driver in a rubicon but all things being equal, I wished I would have ponied up and got the rubicon from the get go. My Sport as LSD too but it is not the same as front and rear lockers.

m25red 06-15-2013 12:19 PM

I have a JKU sport. 3.73's, LSD. Also 2.5 lift and Duratrac 315/70/17's. I have no problem moving the larger tires although they are not really 35's. As far as DD goes that's what mine is with moderate off road. I adjusted with the Procal and I'm averaging mid 18 mph.
I can't imagine 37's for a DD. You will get a really nice stance on 35's and a mild lift like a 2.5.

Sucker Punch 06-15-2013 12:21 PM

Thanks for the info guys. You have helped me make up my mind as I plan on going with the sport. It is all I need as far as capabilities and what I plan on using it for. I just feel it would be a waste of money on the Rubicon as I would rarely, if ever, use the lockers etc. I'm not saying it won't be taken offroad, but it's not gonna be rolling down or up any nasty trails in the near future.

I was mainly just concerned about the 3.73 gears and the dana 30 with 35's.

I will definitely be ordering the sport with:
auto
3.73 max tow
LSD
HALF DOORS
and a few other items
:dance:

I wish jeep would let you build the jeep a la carte! Then all I would add is the dana 44 up front and 4.10 gears and I would be good to go!:rolleyes:


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