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amerdt4 06-21-2013 07:30 AM

More 8.8 install questions
 
Are these the same thing ?

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k2...ps3e0b27e3.jpg
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OverkillYJ 06-21-2013 08:13 AM

The currie one might actually fit, but is supposed to be for an SYE with a flange.

YJ fanatic 06-21-2013 08:35 AM

Look at East Coast Gear Supply. Their adaptor is $20 cheaper. I'm using it, and its fine.

amerdt4 06-21-2013 09:11 PM

I mainly was curious cause the Curry adapter comes with bolts . Mt 8.8 didn't come with any .

YJ fanatic 06-21-2013 09:16 PM

If it fits, it'd be a decent price. The ECGS one I mentioned comes with the bolts for like $37.

overthehillsahara 06-21-2013 10:24 PM

Most likely they are the same Spicer 2-2-1379 flange that Drivetrain America has for $26 but with the bolts.

Spicer 2-2-1379 1310 Flange Ford 8.8

2xs 06-22-2013 01:27 AM

Im just using the 1330 flange that came on my Ford 8.8, and a "bastard" U-joint, a 1310 and 1330 combo U-joint thats $13 at NAPA.

amerdt4 06-22-2013 09:57 PM

Thanks for the help

2xs 06-22-2013 11:04 PM

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/mo...FU7hQgodgSwAGA

Here is the U-Joint I was talking about, but on Summit's website, seems the price went up...


1310 series measures
Dimension A = 3.219 inches wide
Dimension C = 2 bearing caps are 1.0625 inch diameter
outside snap rings
1350 series measures
Dimension B = 3.625 inches wide
Dimension D = 2 bearing caps are 1.187 inch diameter
outside snap rings

amerdt4 06-23-2013 06:38 AM

Maybe I'm unclear on this . My 8.8 has a circular plate where the spicer would bolt to . You can change that to a 1330 u joint yoke ?

joeinajeep 06-23-2013 08:28 AM

I didn't want to run a combo u-joint, so I just use the flange. However, if I wanted to use a 1330 or bigger on the pinion side, I would also have my driveshaft match it. This way I would worry less about finding a u-joint in an emergency. Or, if you run a combo, you could always just buy a spare... I guess I'm saying you have a few options LOL...

overthehillsahara 06-23-2013 11:40 AM

For 1330 u-joints you could use a Spicer 2-2-1369 Overall Die. is 5.250" vs 5.219" (.031" larger) same bolt pattern and die, pilot die. and flange to cap center. The bolt holes are 0.016" larger but uses the same bolts. 1330 Series Parts has part # N2-2-1369 for $37

4Jeepn 06-23-2013 01:56 PM

There are two Different dana ford 8.8 adaptors.. one is the small pattern between the holes and the other is the larger pattern 4" or so.. make sure you get the correct one. I have the 1310 version which works great with the CV shaft I have as I only have to carry one size u-joint.

yj93ben 06-23-2013 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by 4Jeepn (Post 3891260)
There are two Different dana ford 8.8 adaptors.. one is the small pattern between the holes and the other is the larger pattern 4" or so.. make sure you get the correct one. I have the 1310 version which works great with the CV shaft I have as I only have to carry one size u-joint.

For all the U-joints.:D

4Jeepn 06-23-2013 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by yj93ben (Post 3891699)
For all the U-joints.:D

no for the bolt pattern on the pinon disc thingy... most are 1310.. as it what all the cool kids run....

95YamJam 06-23-2013 07:23 PM

I used the one that came on my 8.8. . Adapted right to the stock u joint. I have a 95' so IIRC it's bigger(1330).

Norcal_Chris 06-23-2013 08:54 PM

Junkyard parts. Bolts and adapters you can grab em off the 8.8s.

disc brake 8.8 has a 1330 adapter.
drum brake 8.8 has a 1310 adapter.

Can get these from my local Pick and pull junkyard for $15

amerdt4 06-24-2013 09:25 AM

Any Sye's better than the rest? What's everyone using ?

YJ fanatic 06-24-2013 10:07 AM

I'm running the Advanced Adapters SYE with a CJ Tattons driveshaft and they work great. Both are top-notch quality.

amerdt4 06-24-2013 08:27 PM

Is the diff on the 8.8 centered ?

YJ fanatic 06-24-2013 09:05 PM

Offset to the right I think, about 2".

amerdt4 06-24-2013 09:15 PM

Ok good , I haven't measured yet , but just an eyeball it looked off . One of these days I'll upload my pics and start a build thread .

I'm waiting on delivery on my sye so I can measure for my Tom Woods cv driveshaft . As of now my 8.8 is bolted in awaiting the angle to be set so I can weld the perches and 5th link .

I have another question ... When welding the shock perches , how do I know how far down to put them ? I already assume not to go further than the bottom of the axle . I ordered the Rubicon Express shocks recommend for soa .

YJ fanatic 06-24-2013 09:22 PM

Jack the jeep up so the axle is at full droop. Put the shocks on the frame side and extend them all the way. Compress them 1"-1.5" and thats about where the mount should be. That's what my buddies told me, and it has worked for me.

OverkillYJ 06-24-2013 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by YJ fanatic (Post 3896085)
Jack the jeep up so the axle is at full droop. Put the shocks on the frame side and extend them all the way. Compress them 1"-1.5" and thats about where the mount should be. That's what my buddies told me, and it has worked for me.

Where you want the shock mounts dictates the length of your shocks. Your shocks do not dictate where you mount your shock tabs. Ideally they should be level with the bottom of the axle tubes to give you max clearance.

YJ fanatic 06-24-2013 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by OverkillYJ (Post 3896234)
Where you want the shock mounts dictates the length of your shocks. Your shocks do not dictate where you mount your shock tabs. Ideally they should be level with the bottom of the axle tubes to give you max clearance.

Yes, that would be ideal. But he, like I did, ordered shocks before the mounts were welded on. Therefore, the length of the shock must dictate where the mount goes. Unless he wants to return what he bought, and get custom length shocks.

Another option, mount the bottom tabs how you want them, then relocate the top shock mount to give you the right length.

joeinajeep 06-25-2013 07:13 AM

A lot of good info on the tj sticky: http://www.wranglerforum.com/f5/are-...wap-92569.html

OverkillYJ 06-25-2013 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by YJ fanatic (Post 3896572)
Yes, that would be ideal. But he, like I did, ordered shocks before the mounts were welded on. Therefore, the length of the shock must dictate where the mount goes. Unless he wants to return what he bought, and get custom length shocks.

Another option, mount the bottom tabs how you want them, then relocate the top shock mount to give you the right length.

Yes, they should be returned. You should never let a part you have dictate where you are going to weld mounts and things. Return them, measure, and then call all over. It is a pain in the but to find the extended and collapsed length of shocks since most manufacturers do not list it on their websites, but it is the best way to ensure everything is done properly. I spent at least an hour on the phone, and even more time online before buying shocks to match the length I needed.

amerdt4 06-25-2013 12:15 PM

Well , I think they were dropped off at the house today , I'll stretch them out and see where I sit before I weld anything , If they dont seem to give me full range then I'll send them back . I dont see Rubicon selling a part for their setups that arent meant to go though .

YJ fanatic 06-25-2013 01:13 PM

They probably base the shock lengths off stock shock mounts. So when you raise the mount up, the shocks will be too long and bottom out.

OverkillYJ 06-25-2013 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by YJ fanatic (Post 3898054)
They probably base the shock lengths off stock shock mounts. So when you raise the mount up, the shocks will be too long and bottom out.

Exactly. You dont want to weld them low, you want to weld them high for more clearance. Then figure out what size shock fits best. Only downside is that you will need a different length shock for the rear and front.


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