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BobbyC771 06-22-2013 09:47 PM

10th Anniversary Edition Rubicon VS Wrangler Sport with Rocky Ridge Conversion
 
So I am trying to decide if I should buy the Rubicon or the Rocky Ridge Converted wrangler sport. In 2003 when the Ruby first came out I bought one and was very happy with its capabilities. I went to the dealership today to trade in my 2007 Jeep Commander (which I traded in the Rubicon for the Commander- not a mistake but hindsight being 20/20 I wish I would have kept the Rubicon) and saw the Wrangler sport with the Rocky Ridge conversion and test drove it. I have to say I liked it. My question is:
Are the wrangler sports with the Rocky Ridge conversions as good on the trail as the Rubicons? Do the sport w/ conversions crawl as well. What am I gaining and what am I giving up if I go for one or the other. Any info on different shocks, axles, gear ratios,skid plates, abilities, differences, similarities, etc would be greatly appreciated. Anyone who has a Rocky Ridge conversion could give some insight? I miss my Ruby but liked the sport with the conversion. Thanks for any input on this guys and gals.
Bob

blackforestgreen 06-22-2013 10:22 PM

not familiar with the sport you mention, but does it have the d44 front axle, lockers, the lower geared lo gear in the transfer case? i think you need to a side by side comparison and then decide.

4X4BIKEPED 06-22-2013 10:52 PM

I would take a look at the upgrades that Rocky Ridge is adding to a standard sport and see if I could do it for cheaper, deleting the options that I don't want, and adding those I do.

My 2010 Rubicon unlimited and my 2013 10A Unlimited drive about the same, but the wow factor isn't even close. So that may be something (however dumb) to consider.

Have fun!

4X4BIKEPED 06-22-2013 11:09 PM

Oh...

I should have mentioned that the 3.6L Pentastar in my '13 seems to be a nice improvement.

We'll see.

BobbyC771 06-22-2013 11:12 PM

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3" Suspension Lift
18"” Custom Wheels (5)
Black or Chrome 35" Off-Road Style Tires (5)
Custom Off-Road Front Bumper
Custom Off-Road Rear Bumper
Side Step Bars
XRC 8000 Winch
Jeep Grab Handles
Speedometer Calibration Module
Spare Tire Extension Bracket
LED 3rd Brake Light
Tire Sensors Recalibrated
3 Year / 36,000 Mile Warranty

I don't think it has the Dana 44s since it is a Standard Wrangle Sport
I am leaning towards the Ruby but really like the height on the sport w rocky ridge conversion

WatchThis! 06-22-2013 11:30 PM

If given a chance to wheel on of the two for a weekend in a two door set up I personally would pick the stock rubi even though it has no lift and smaller tires. If I was going to just drive one around wheel it a bit and didn't plan on doing anymore modding to it then the packaged sport would fit the bill for me.

BobbyC771 06-22-2013 11:44 PM

Blackforest I do not believe it has the Dana's since it is a converted stock Sport

BobbyC771 06-22-2013 11:45 PM

Thanks Watchthis. You gotta any idea if Rocky Ridge upgrades the axles when they do their mods? Can't seem to find any info on it yet.

WatchThis! 06-22-2013 11:59 PM

Never heard of them but I would bet good money on NO. The price for new jeeps mooded like that are wayyy higher then stock Rubies and I have a feeling they would be braging about it.

RKracing 06-23-2013 12:05 AM

Rubicon......then you will be a happy camper :dance:

RKracing 06-23-2013 12:06 AM

Rubicon......then you will be a happy camper, guaranteed. :dance:

Lithium Lotus 06-23-2013 12:57 AM

Link to the Rocky Ridge Jeep. Rocky Ridge Trucks Jeep Page

It's just a built up Sport model Wrangler with aftermarket parts [Smittybilt bumpers, winch and rock rails]. It seems Rocky Ridge just upgrades stock vehicles for dealerships. They don't even list what brand lift they are using. I would probably guess something cheap like ProComp or Skyjacker.

I would save your money and get the Rubicon and get the bumpers and accessories you want later on. And you can get a good 3" lift kit like Rock Krawler or Teraflex.

BobbyC771 06-23-2013 11:26 AM

So after some exhaustive research here's where I find myself........


Ruby vs Sport:
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Sport has Next Generation Dana® 30 Solid Front Axle
Ruby has Next Generation Dana® 44 Heavy Duty Front Axle
What I found in a forum thread:
{{{RESEARCH NOTE: The main area where the Dana 44 is stronger when compared to the Dana 30 is in the ring-and-pinion. The Dana 30's ring gear has a diameter of 7.2 inches, while the Dana 44 features a ring gear with a diameter of 8.5 inches. The inner axle-shafts of the Dana 44 are also stronger 30-spline units, compared to the 27-spline units found in the Dana 30. The 44 also has a slightly thicker axle-tube than the Dana 30. Identical U-joints are found in '97-and-later Dana 30s and Dana 44s, with pre-'97 D30s featuring a smaller U-joint.}}}

Both have Next Generation Dana® 44 Heavy Duty Rear Axle

Both have Fuel Tank Skid Plate Shield

Ruby has Rubicon 4X4 Specs Plate ( I assume this is the steel plate underbody armor ) (anyone know??)

Ruby has Steel Front and Rear Bumpers Sport does not

Ruby has Rock Rails by Mopar (Some say these are just "ok" and not the best ones, any feedback on this?)

Sport has Command-Trac® Shift-on-the-Fly 4WD System
Ruby has 4:1 Rock-Trac® Part-Time 4WD System

Ruby has Tru-Lok® Front and Rear Axles

Both have Electronic Stability Control

Sport has 16-Inch Styled Steel Wheels (With Rocky Ridge Conversion the Sport has 18-inch Custom Black Wheels)
Ruby has 17" x 7.5" Rubicon 10th Anniversary Road Wheels

Sport has P225/75R16 BSW On/Off-Road Tires (With Rocky Ridge Conversion the Sport has 35-inch off-road tires)
Ruby has LT265/70R17E OWL On/Off Road Tires (32-inch BFGoodrich off-road tires)

Sport does not have Front Sway Bar Disconnect (As far as I can tell from the specs)
Ruby has Electronic Front Sway Bar Disconnect

Sport has "Normal Duty" standard suspension (See Rocky Ridge Conversion Specs)
Ruby has Performance Suspension

{{{RESEARCH NOTE: Rocky Ridge Conversion Specs}}}

~3” Pro Comp Suspension Lift (Which Includes: Performance Coil Springs, Pro Comp ES 9000 Shocks, Replacement Front and Rear Sway-Bar End Links, Foam Bump Stops, Brake-Line Adaptor Bracket, and Upgraded Track-Bar Mount)

~18” Custom Wheels Black or Chrome
~35” All Terrain Tires
~Custom Off-Road Front Bumper
~Custom Off-Road Rear Bumper
~Rock Slider Side Steps
~XRC 8000 Winch
~Off Road Lights
~Jeep Grab Handles And All Weather Floor Mats
~Front and Rear Light Grilles
~Speedometer Calibration Module
~3 Year/36,000 Mile Warranty
~5Year/100,000 Power-train Warranty


So I hope this helps anyone out there considering the Rocky Ridge Conversion of a 2013 Wrangler Sport. I ask everyone who can expound upon this knowledge base to do so. If anyone knows more info, has corrections to my research, or would like to offer their experience I invite you to do so.

Thanks Wheelin' Guys and Gals

Very excited to get a new Wrangler but I will miss my Commander, she's been a great car.......maybe I can find a way to keep her and still get a JK 😊

BobbyC771 06-23-2013 11:31 AM

Thank Lithium Lotus. Yes they are using Pro Comp.

My decision is to go with the Ruby. I had a 2003 (wish I still had the Ruby Silver Bullet) and I loved that car so I will go with what I know. Gonna try and find a 10th Anni version in Anvil and do the mods on down the road.
Thanks to everyone that pitched in with advice and opinions.
I read during my research that once you own a Ruby you can never go back...........TRUE!

jagerhelix 06-23-2013 12:14 PM

Wow, there are about as many random ass companies slapping crap on jks and turning them as editions for dealers as there are companies "building" ar15s now. I have yet to see a company take a JK and build a purpose built rig with high quality and durable parts without the fluff. Unless that purpose is looking sweet. Where is the "Gen right" edition? Sorry for the rant... long run you'd be happier with the Ruby I think.

JK JoeD 06-23-2013 12:59 PM

Get the rubicon.

Lithium Lotus 06-23-2013 03:26 PM

You would be spending more money to replace the procomp suspension with something better. Get the Rubicon and build it the way you want. :)

Remmy18 06-23-2013 04:00 PM

Get the Rubi and build it yourself over time with quality components.

pepatrick 06-23-2013 04:12 PM

You could go with a Sport and make a Rubi killer for less money than the Rubi. The Rubi is the best of the best in stock form...but you can take a Sport for 10k less drop a dana 44 on the front, lockers and a lift and come in for less money (probably not by much) and out perform it. Just a thought.

Lanco 06-23-2013 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by jagerhelix (Post 3891069)
Wow, there are about as many random ass companies slapping crap on jks and turning them as editions for dealers as there are companies "building" ar15s now. I have yet to see a company take a JK and build a purpose built rig with high quality and durable parts without the fluff. Unless that purpose is looking sweet. Where is the "Gen right" edition? Sorry for the rant... long run you'd be happier with the Ruby I think.


this. :thumb: get the rubicon.

kbwwolf 06-23-2013 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by WatchThis! (Post 3890256)
Never heard of them but I would bet good money on NO. The price for new jeeps mooded like that are wayyy higher then stock Rubies and I have a feeling they would be braging about it.

^^ This.

Rocky Ridge...I've got a pint of that in my freezer. :)

rubberjeep 06-23-2013 06:38 PM

If resale is a factor for you you will probably end up getting more on a special edition package back eventually then adding it on yourself. With that said you will get screwed either way so shouldn't be a huge factor.

BobbyC771 06-23-2013 08:54 PM

After my research I agree with you jagerhelix

BobbyC771 06-23-2013 09:01 PM

Thanks guys. I have an appointment to test drive a ruby 10th anniversary edition tomorrow. Best part is it is the anvil color. Thought I wanted black but I think the anvil might be a good color. I have been told it is a tough color to find in the ruby plus it is loaded with everything.........body-color 3piece hardtop, body-color fender flares, unconnect pkg, sunrider soft top. So we will see. Very excited to get back to the jk but would like to keep my xk. Tomorrow may be the day!!!!! Thanks everybody for your help. Hope this thread helps others navigate the deler modded JKs

BobbyC771 06-24-2013 03:46 PM

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She's all mine fellas!!!!!!!!!! Went with the Ruby. Thanks to everyone who helped me decide.
Bob

cmaggi2 06-24-2013 04:06 PM

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She's all mine fellas!!!!!!!!!! Went with the Ruby. Thanks to everyone who helped me decide.
Bob

Congrats. Looks nice.

Remmy18 06-24-2013 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by BobbyC771 (Post 3894959)

She's all mine fellas!!!!!!!!!! Went with the Ruby. Thanks to everyone who helped me decide.
Bob

Congrats man! Time to see what she can do!

BobbyC771 06-24-2013 05:32 PM

Oh yes Remmy18. I am searching for local groups in my area to go wheelin' with at this very moment........

Remmy18 06-24-2013 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by BobbyC771 (Post 3895221)
Oh yes Remmy18. I am searching for local groups in my area to go wheelin' with at this very moment........

Good for you! That's how I got started and learned a ton.

fljeepleo 06-24-2013 07:58 PM

Much better, every shop in town has a modded wrangler they are selling for way too much money with cheap half assed mods. You bought a nice classy rig that isnt pieced together.
Looks great!


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