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adamfitz 06-25-2013 02:31 PM

Thoughts on Repsraying
 
Hey amigos. I have a 98 jeep wrangler that is in need of paint. The old owner spray painted it matte black just over the old paint which was a purple COLOR and over the finish too. It needs to be redone. Do you think it would be worth to do it professionally for money or has anyone else done things successfully and saved money but also won't come off if I run my fingernail on it. Any help would be awesome! Thanks ahead of time!

adamfitz 06-25-2013 02:48 PM

Anyone?

Walkingstick 06-25-2013 03:53 PM

Bedline it. :-)

George C 06-25-2013 06:27 PM

my jeep was a full color change, its hard to say what is worth things these days. If you will be in the woods and etc then a quick rope a dope may be in your budget. Mine was done as a favor for a buddy with budget materials but still came out looking great. SUmmit line of paint products was used

harleydragon 06-25-2013 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by adamfitz (Post 3898117)
Hey amigos. I have a 98 jeep wrangler that is in need of paint. The old owner spray painted it matte black just over the old paint which was a purple COLOR and over the finish too. It needs to be redone. Do you think it would be worth to do it professionally for money or has anyone else done things successfully and saved money but also won't come off if I run my fingernail on it. Any help would be awesome! Thanks ahead of time!

I do my own paint jobs but if you don't have the ability to do a job properly then let someone do it that does..You will never regret having a job well done

adamfitz 06-26-2013 04:44 AM

Yeah I mean it's my DD but I'm also only 16 so money is a little bit of an issue. I'm bed lining the inside of it when I return home from vacation. Just it's worrying to pay 500$ for a 6 month warranty. :craziness

adamfitz 06-26-2013 04:49 AM

If I was to try and do it myself? What's the prep necessary and what do I use to like deal the paint after spraying it?

harleydragon 06-26-2013 07:46 AM

the majority of the prep is a whole lot of sanding but the finished job will only look as good as the surface that you spray..I use base coat/clear coat. the clear coat protects the color coat..even doing our own paint we spend 4 or 5 hundred on materials to get a super nice paint job.I also have a good bit of money invested in the equipment . to strip the vehicle down,sand it,do any body work,tape it,spray it,and reassemble it you end up with many hours of work. to have a shop do a top quality paint job is expensive but once you spend the time and money to do one yourself you can relate to the prices they charge

adamfitz 06-26-2013 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by harleydragon (Post 3900497)
the majority of the prep is a whole lot of sanding but the finished job will only look as good as the surface that you spray..I use base coat/clear coat. the clear coat protects the color coat..even doing our own paint we spend 4 or 5 hundred on materials to get a super nice paint job.I also have a good bit of money invested in the equipment . to strip the vehicle down,sand it,do any body work,tape it,spray it,and reassemble it you end up with many hours of work. to have a shop do a top quality paint job is expensive but once you spend the time and money to do one yourself you can relate to the prices they charge

What tools do you own to spray?

harleydragon 06-26-2013 08:05 AM

air compressor,paint guns,sanders and grinders for the most part

schnutzy 06-26-2013 09:42 AM

some good reading in here: http://www.wranglerforum.com/f105/ho...int-40110.html

krisbman 06-26-2013 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by adamfitz (Post 3900336)
Yeah I mean it's my DD but I'm also only 16 so money is a little bit of an issue. I'm bed lining the inside of it when I return home from vacation. Just it's worrying to pay 500$ for a 6 month warranty. :craziness

$500 for a 6 month warranty?

adamfitz 06-27-2013 03:55 AM

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Originally Posted by krisbman (Post 3903133)

$500 for a 6 month warranty?

For the respray and such it's 500$ and then the spray only has a 6 month warranty

krisbman 06-27-2013 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by adamfitz (Post 3903817)

For the respray and such it's 500$ and then the spray only has a 6 month warranty

What do you expect for $500??? Your not gonna get me to supply materials and make 3-4 trips around your jeep with a spray gun in my hand for $500.

JACK3D 06-27-2013 04:07 PM

I painted my entire jeep with Rustoleum spray paint. Everyone told me not to, how it would look horrible, wouldn't last... so on and so forth. Well I did it anyways, turned out very good, and has lasted perfectly. Only touch ups were after trips in the woods and paint getting scratched by trees. I used about 11 cans of spray paint, cost me about 8 bucks a can. I did the whole thing, including my rims for about $100.

Prep is important. I spent about 4 hours sanding mine down, and cleaning it. After i sanded, I cleaned with an alcohol based cleaner. Then wiped it clean with some shop towels. dried it off, and sprayed away.

If you want pics of my before and after let me know.

adamfitz 06-28-2013 04:48 AM

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Originally Posted by krisbman (Post 3904220)

What do you expect for $500??? Your not gonna get me to supply materials and make 3-4 trips around your jeep with a spray gun in my hand for $500.

I don't know much about paint man. I don't know all THATS involved THATS why I'm asking. You can keep your little smart comments to yourself. I'm 16 and asking questions man. Good lord

adamfitz 06-28-2013 04:49 AM

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Originally Posted by JACK3D (Post 3905546)
I painted my entire jeep with Rustoleum spray paint. Everyone told me not to, how it would look horrible, wouldn't last... so on and so forth. Well I did it anyways, turned out very good, and has lasted perfectly. Only touch ups were after trips in the woods and paint getting scratched by trees. I used about 11 cans of spray paint, cost me about 8 bucks a can. I did the whole thing, including my rims for about $100.

Prep is important. I spent about 4 hours sanding mine down, and cleaning it. After i sanded, I cleaned with an alcohol based cleaner. Then wiped it clean with some shop towels. dried it off, and sprayed away.

If you want pics of my before and after let me know.

Yeah man would you mind? Also did you use a sealer or anything?

JACK3D 06-28-2013 08:40 AM

Adamfitz- Here are a few before and afters. No I didn't use sealer or anything like that. All i used was rattle cans. Rustoleum flat black. Again, prep is the key, sand it down, and clean it well. When you spray, hold the can about 8-12 inches away and use an even sweeping motion. It's not difficult, just time consuming. Tape off anything you don't want to get over spray on. I also would recommend doing it with the top off. Let me know if you have any questions.

I kept the jeep "two toned" like you see in pic #3 for about three weeks. I liked it at first, anything to break up the red. Eventually, I just went all black, and like it much better. I'm actually thinking of going OD Green soon. That's the great thing about doing it yourself with rattle cans. If you don't like something, just re do it. Doesn't take much expertise, and I can have my jeep an entirely different color in a day, for about 100 bucks. Not bad, and much better than paying a shop to do it, and being stuck with it.

harleydragon 06-28-2013 03:57 PM

different people have different opinions on what is a good paint job..to me,any vehicle painted with rattle cans will not be very good

krisbman 06-28-2013 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by harleydragon (Post 3908898)
different people have different opinions on what is a good paint job..to me,any vehicle painted with rattle cans will not be very good

X2. I love hearing about these spray bomb paint jobs that look killer

Flyfisher76 06-28-2013 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by adamfitz (Post 3907498)
I don't know much about paint man. I don't know all THATS involved THATS why I'm asking. You can keep your little smart comments to yourself. I'm 16 and asking questions man. Good lord

Well if you read the above posts someone mentioned that it is a good 400-500 just for materials for a quality spray so using your deductive reasoning skills, which i know may not be developed fully since you are 16, one could surmise that paying 500 for an entire spray would probably involve either cheap materials, shortcuts, bad prep or a combination of them all.

Personally i wouldn't worry about painting it unless you really want to and i would save the money and put it towards something else. Paint to me is the last thing to be done.

I would also steer clear of rattle can jobs. I haven't seen one that looks as good as a bad professional spray.

JACK3D 06-28-2013 07:12 PM

If he wants to rattle can his jeep he can rattle can if. He wasn't asking for a bunch of people telling him how it will look bad. He was asking advice from those who have done it.

Like I posted above, multiple people told me how shitty mine would look if I did it. Well those people have now said that it looks good.

If you want to paint yourself, go for it.

harleydragon 06-28-2013 08:38 PM

as I said,everyone has their own opinion..this is one of my paint jobs..I had about 4 or 5 hundred in materials in it but it will hold up better and have a much higher gloss than a factory paint job..It is all in what you are looking for or can afford but this little jeep brought me a pretty good price..

JACK3D 06-28-2013 08:43 PM

Dragon.. That paint job would look great on a show car. Too shiny for my liking. I wouldn't put that much into a vehicle that I am going to drive through the woods.

harleydragon 06-28-2013 08:59 PM

I used the same materials that I do use on show bikes..there are several coats of really hard clear on it..the great thing as far as the woods goes is the hardness of the clear does not scratch easy and even if you get scratches , it doesn't go through the clear to the color coat.so, it can be buffed back out..these 2 different paint jobs will give the guy pics of the 2 extremes so maybe he can decide what he wants

adamfitz 06-29-2013 04:28 AM

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Originally Posted by harleydragon (Post 3908898)
different people have different opinions on what is a good paint job..to me,any vehicle painted with rattle cans will not be very good

Yeah i mean mine is sprayed with rattle cans now and it's fading oddly and just coming off now

adamfitz 06-29-2013 04:31 AM

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Originally Posted by harleydragon (Post 3909561)
I used the same materials that I do use on show bikes..there are several coats of really hard clear on it..the great thing as far as the woods goes is the hardness of the clear does not scratch easy and even if you get scratches , it doesn't go through the clear to the color coat.so, it can be buffed back out..these 2 different paint jobs will give the guy pics of the 2 extremes so maybe he can decide what he wants

I really like the clear coat you got on it. I think ill stay with the spray until I can afford a paint job that is in fact good and will last a long time. Thank you for all the help and thanks for helping me realise that painting is in fact more pricey then I had originally thought

harleydragon 06-29-2013 07:11 AM

yw//good luck with your jeep

steeze 07-16-2013 10:15 PM

Monstaline it... seen it in person and it looks awesome

HillbillyJeeper 07-16-2013 10:19 PM

Bedline it, none of that fancy spray on shit neither... Roll that bitch!


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