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TOK 06-25-2013 02:03 PM

Top 10 "Most American Vehicles": 4 Toyotas, no Jeeps!
 
Here is the list, the Camry was actually #1 last year:

1. Ford F-150
2. Toyota Camry
3. Dodge Avenger
4. Honda Odyssey
5. Toyota Sienna
6. Chevrolet Traverse
7. Toyota Tundra
8. GMC Acadia
9. Buick Enclave
10. Toyota Avalon

Complete article:
The Cars.com American-Made Index - Cars.com

n00g7 06-25-2013 02:06 PM

Lol, there's the F-150 and then a list of crap I'd never buy.

Greg_2012_JKU 06-25-2013 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by n00g7 (Post 3898244)
Lol, there's the F-150 and then a list of crap I'd never buy.

Couldn't agree more!! The F-150 is the ONLY vehicle on that list I would ever consider buying!!

mhilbush 06-25-2013 02:17 PM

When I look at this list, other than the F-150, the word that comes to mind for me -- BORING.

dawhitesJKU 06-25-2013 02:20 PM

5 of those are not American brands.

n00g7 06-25-2013 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by dawhitesJKU (Post 3898276)
5 of those are not American brands.


It's based on sales, construction location, and sourcing of the parts. :doh:

Flyfisher76 06-25-2013 02:23 PM

I don't think sales should factor in very highly as parent companies that are not US based get the profits.

But i agree, the only vehicles i would consider are the f150 and the acadia.

michiganadam 06-25-2013 02:30 PM

Funny thing...go to a yota dealer and look at the parts content percentage sticker on an import (hell my hyundai had a permanent sticker in the window for it! Theyre proud!). Then look at gm ford or chryslers.

Imports have a "us and canada" parts percentage. Domestics have "north american". What a cop out....

MacCTD 06-25-2013 02:38 PM

Pretty funny that the F150 only has 75% domestic content, probably the lowest of the group and the minimum required to be considered for this list.

TOK 06-25-2013 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by MacCTD (Post 3898339)
Pretty funny that the F150 only has 75% domestic content, probably the lowest of the group and the minimum required to be considered for this list.

Aren't all 3 GM's on the list basically the same vehicle with cosmetic differences? They could be rolling down the same assembly line for all I know.

live_slow 06-25-2013 03:14 PM

If you look at the methodology of "cars.com" you will not put any faith in their list. I think it's getting worse, but I don't doubt Ford's F150 would be near the top of any list, for now.

It's more marketing than science.

If anyone is interested, check out the methodology used by Kogood/American University.

Kogod Made in America Auto Index | Kogod School of Business, American University, Washington, DC
  • Profit Margin: Where the automaker's global headquarters is located
  • Labor: Where the car is assembled
  • Research and Development
  • Inventory, Capital, and Other Expenses: Location of assembly
  • Engine and Transmission: Location of production
  • Body, Interior, Chassis, Electrical, and Other: Location of production
  • National Highway Traffic Safety Administration AALA "Domestic Content" Score
By their methodology, there are several ties near the top, Jeep Wrangers are number 4.

However, since cars.com buys (and sells) quite a bit of print and airtime, theirs will spread through for-profit media like wildfire.

Flyfisher76 06-25-2013 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by live_slow (Post 3898465)
If you look at the methodology of "cars.com" you will not put any faith in their list. I think it's getting worse, but I don't doubt Ford's F150 would be near the top of any list, for now.

It's more marketing than science.

If anyone is interested, check out the methodology used by Kogood/American University.

Kogod Made in America Auto Index | Kogod School of Business, American University, Washington, DC
  • Profit Margin: Where the automaker's global headquarters is located
  • Labor: Where the car is assembled
  • Research and Development
  • Inventory, Capital, and Other Expenses: Location of assembly
  • Engine and Transmission: Location of production
  • Body, Interior, Chassis, Electrical, and Other: Location of production
  • National Highway Traffic Safety Administration AALA "Domestic Content" Score
By their methodology, there are several ties near the top, Jeep Wrangers are number 4.

However, since cars.com buys (and sells) quite a bit of print and airtime, theirs will spread through for-profit media like wildfire.

That's the study i was looking for but couldn't find.

THW 06-25-2013 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by dawhitesJKU (Post 3898276)
5 of those are not American brands.

Neither is Jeep! :rofl:

traitor08 06-25-2013 05:31 PM

Didn't see anything on that list I would buy.

LewdDude 06-25-2013 05:32 PM

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So those ten are more American then this???? Lol

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n00g7 06-25-2013 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by LewdDude (Post 3898856)
So those ten are more American then this???? Lol

Chrysler vehicles are about as american as an american flag made in china.

Jk, I don't know.

matthew87 06-25-2013 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by TOK (Post 3898362)
Aren't all 3 GM's on the list basically the same vehicle with cosmetic differences? They could be rolling down the same assembly line for all I know.

I know right. they make one car then brand three different ways with subtle differences. the Pontiac version of the chevy equinox always made me laugh.


the Honda odessey isn't bad if u need a family van

clayps 06-25-2013 05:55 PM

Actually a big fan of the new Chevy Traverse's. Much more classy looking than the awkward looking model of years past.

DIXIEDOG 06-25-2013 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by LewdDude (Post 3898856)
So those ten are more American then this???? Lol



Yes they are but don't let that get you down....you're Fiat is still prettier :hide:

Old Dogger 06-25-2013 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by n00g7 (Post 3898244)
Lol, there's the F-150 and then a list of crap I'd never buy.

X2, I wonder how they would perform in a Rock crawling event...........:facepalm:

Mindlesschunk 06-25-2013 06:39 PM

I'd rather be homeless than buy any one of those cars

fan of fanboys 06-25-2013 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by n00g7 (Post 3898244)
Lol, there's the F-150 and then a list of crap I'd never buy.

A lot of crap made in America it seems

fan of fanboys 06-25-2013 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Mindlesschunk (Post 3898999)
I'd rather be homeless than buy any one of those cars

Acadia and ilk are nice family vehicles for surbanites.

fan of fanboys 06-25-2013 07:18 PM

Isn't there a list of most American just based on where it's made? I thought I'd seen that.
Tundra, I think, more American made than any other full size truck based on that. I think, going off memory

fan of fanboys 06-25-2013 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Flyfisher76 (Post 3898285)
I don't think sales should factor in very highly as parent companies that are not US based get the profits.

But i agree, the only vehicles i would consider are the f150 and the acadia.

I'd rather American workers get money and foreign CEOs over foreign workers and domestic CEOs

Owen_TJ 06-26-2013 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by n00g7 (Post 3898244)
Lol, there's the F-150 and then a list of crap I'd never buy.

exactly what i was thinking...

michiganadam 06-26-2013 04:55 AM

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Originally Posted by matthew87 (Post 3898891)
I know right. they make one car then brand three different ways with subtle differences. the Pontiac version of the chevy equinox always made me laugh.


the Honda odessey isn't bad if u need a family van

See the chevy astro and gmc safari. Gmc yukon and caddilac escalade. Chevy monte carlo and oldsmobile 88. Chevy camaro vs pontiac firebird. Firebirds are better even though i almost died in one once.

Theres no excuse for minivans to exist. You can thank chrysler for those ugly things.


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Originally Posted by Mindlesschunk (Post 3898999)
I'd rather be homeless than buy any one of those cars

Hahahaha i agree.

BlueRidgeYJ 06-26-2013 07:05 AM

I'd take a Tundra over an F150 any day. But at least those rust bucket GM trucks didn't make it. :)

+1 on an American worker being FAR more important than some CEO making 400 times what his workers do.

And remember, Toyota stock trades in NY, same as Tokyo. It isn't like the money just goes to Japan.

O_M_Jeep 06-26-2013 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by michiganadam (Post 3900379)
Theres no excuse for minivans to exist. You can thank chrysler for those ugly things.

And the JK.



That's what your neighbors are buying, that list. I see that list and then I think about every new American made car I've ever seen, and it's requisite trips back to the dealer to get "fixed" at least 3 to 5 times the first year and I don't doubt that list a bit

RoadiJeff 06-26-2013 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by michiganadam (Post 3900379)

Theres no excuse for minivans to exist. You can thank chrysler for those ugly things.

Plenty of reasons for them to exist.

Plus, Chrysler's minivan was the big money-maker for the company for a number of years, not to mention several million dollars I earned from working for Chrysler because of the minivan.

I'm sure a lot of those profits went into R&D on Jeep technology.


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