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amerijeep 08-07-2006 07:50 PM

Death Wobble.
 
Ok. We're creating a thread on death wobble to sticky. Anyone who want to post here and lists causes of death wobble, what to check for to resolve death wobble, etc., please post your input. I will take all replies to this thread and edit them into one single posting and credit each member that provided input in the final posting, which will be located right here.There will be a link from each jeep category to this posting.

I appreciate all of your help.

Please post them up!!!!

bluvikng 08-07-2006 08:36 PM

I just wrote out a list of things to consider, and timed out. What is up with that?

Do I need to write it out on Word, and add it as an attachment?

amerijeep 08-07-2006 08:41 PM

I don't know of any time out. Kyle might be the one to ask about that.

However you want to do it is cool though. I can fix it all when we have sufficient info for the sticky and clean out all of this then too.

mrbigjeep 08-07-2006 09:31 PM

trackbar, alignment, tire rotation, balancing, steering parts, tighten everything...all things to check when DW occurs

bluvikng 08-08-2006 01:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigjeep
trackbar, alignment, tire rotation, balancing, steering parts, tighten everything...all things to check when DW occurs

Somebody's been taking notes..............:D WTG.......bigjeep!

mrbigjeep 08-08-2006 08:43 AM

lol...thanks...im tryin :D

Dare2BSquare 08-08-2006 08:53 AM

Here is a fairly concise and yet detailed article on DW

http://www.yuccaman.com/jeep/dw.html

bluvikng 08-08-2006 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dare2BSquare
Here is a fairly concise and yet detailed article on DW

http://www.yuccaman.com/jeep/dw.html

Very good article, I like it, and it is in plain English. Good find, Dare2BSquare!!!

amerijeep 08-08-2006 10:24 AM

Great link. I'll check into it.

ok. I'm just adding this in to let yall know I have emailed and am waiting to get a response.

BlueBoy 08-08-2006 03:17 PM

Can you ever cure DW or will it always comeback at some point?

mrbigjeep 08-08-2006 04:13 PM

i think that there are cures for it...sometimes there are things that only mask the problem but i think it can be gotten rid of

BlueBoy 08-08-2006 04:45 PM

I sure hope so. So I have moved to another shop to help me out now. I am putting on the adj. trackbar and I am going to have them align it also. Should I get the tires rotated and rebalanced also? There are about 400 miles on the tires so do I really need to rotate them? I just want to get this stuff done before I have to drive 200 miles to school in 2 weeks and i dont want death wobble while going 70.

1BLKJP 08-08-2006 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueBoy
I sure hope so. So I have moved to another shop to help me out now. I am putting on the adj. trackbar and I am going to have them align it also. Should I get the tires rotated and rebalanced also? There are about 400 miles on the tires so do I really need to rotate them? I just want to get this stuff done before I have to drive 200 miles to school in 2 weeks and i dont want death wobble while going 70.

I'd say if you have only 400 miles on the tires then there's probably no need to rotate them. However I would suggest getting a good balance done on them. They might be perfectly balanced, but it's worth it to have them run'em again to be sure. You shouldn't have to pay anything for it if you just had tires put on.

When your mechanic is putting on the adj. trac bar have them tighten up everything else in the front end also. Not a bad idea if you have to drive that far on a regular basis.

amerijeep 08-08-2006 07:44 PM

OK. I received and email from the site owner in response to my request. I will have update soon. I can't make this decision on my own. I have to check with the rest of the admin and moderator team.

I'm going to unstick this thread now due to I don't think we'll need a sticky here at all.

Skeezer 08-08-2006 08:08 PM

Don't be suprised if there is a recall real soon on 06 Wranglers. I took my TJ in for the infamous "death Wobble" and the service manager told me there could be a major recall in the works. Let's see what happens.

amerijeep 08-08-2006 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skeezer
Don't be suprised if there is a recall real soon on 06 Wranglers. I took my TJ in for the infamous "death Wobble" and the service manager told me there could be a major recall in the works. Let's see what happens.

Huh? Are you stock?

SurfnSnow 08-08-2006 09:51 PM

you're lucky, the dealer here wouldn't even look at my jeep after I said death wobble. I had dw recently and it was the tie rod ends & tie rod that were the cause. I upgraded to the big daddy tie rod and used the original tre's. As soon as I did that I had a shimmy. Wheelin' one day I hear & feel a thunk in my steering wheel, checked and nothing looked out of place. on the road full on dw. took it to dealer, they looked and tightend everything and sent me on my way. took to 4wheel parts and they found that the original tre on passenger side had been "pushed" in (it fixed my alignment). now here's where it was probably my fault, as I installed the tie rod I did not have one of the jam nuts (driver's side) installed

amerijeep 08-08-2006 09:52 PM

OK. Here's what I've done. In each tech forum, CJ, YJ, and CJ, there is now a sticky that links directly to the yuccaman site and his death wobble page. I emailed the gentleman and he was very gracious about letting us link to it.

When someone comes in and ask about death wobble, please feel free to refer them to the sticky so that they may see the information.

Keep in mind, Wrangler Forum is based on "we will answer all questions"! No one should ever be told to "look it up" or "do the research". The sticky is not to replace real conversation, but just act as a tool that can be refered to.

Special thanks to yuccaman. Check out his site. It's cool.

kRicketts96 11-30-2011 03:13 PM

Hows it going. I'm new to this site and to working on jeeps. I have a 2004 tj and it has a 2'' lift on it. I have DW's and so i got a adj. trakbar from Rustysoffroad. When i put it on i made sure that the axl was centered and tightened it up, and took it for a ride. When i got back it was 1/2'' off. So i tryed it again and still the same thing. Any ideas what could be going on?

Oldguy 12-01-2011 10:44 AM

You're not lifting the jeep up with a jack while you're working on the track bar by any chance? That would throw it off. You might try disconnecting the bar, bouncing both ends of the jeep up and down to settle the springs and then reconnecting it. It can be a PITA to get them centered correctly.

Oldguy 12-01-2011 11:01 AM

Thought of one more possibility. Be sure that the jeep is on a perfectly level surface when you do it. Otherwise the weight shift will throw off the alignment. It does not take much to get a weight shift in a coiler when the track bar is disconnected.

kRicketts96 12-02-2011 12:13 PM

No i put it in my driveway on level suface and have tryed to jump on both sides of the bumper to set it in place. So i have tryed to use a tiedown to pull it to the drivers side and measure by the distane the tires hang out from the sides of the fender. Is there another way to measure?

Oldguy 12-03-2011 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by kRicketts96 (Post 1792094)
No i put it in my driveway on level suface and have tryed to jump on both sides of the bumper to set it in place. So i have tryed to use a tiedown to pull it to the drivers side and measure by the distane the tires hang out from the sides of the fender. Is there another way to measure?

I don't really trust centering an axle by using the body as a reference. I try to measure against the frame. It's easy on the back, you make sure the distance from the upper spring perch to the tire is the same on both sides.

As I said centering the front is a PITA. The way I do it, which is also a PITA is to measure from the back plate on the brake to the frame on the opposite side and get both of those measurements the same.

Pulling on the frame could be distorting the springs which can throw things off. If the front track bar is disconnected turning the steering wheel slightly in the opposite direction you want the axle to shift works pretty well and doesn't throw things off. It usually takes a couple of tries to get it centered and driving between tries helps since the springs need to resettle after shifting the axle.

Hope this helps and good luck with it :)

kRicketts96 12-04-2011 09:50 AM

Thanks for all your help. I'm going to work on that today.


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