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JakeBreen 07-01-2013 07:11 PM

4 inch problems
 
I have a 99 tj. Gotta 2 inch and I was going to put 33's under it. 33's fit good under my two inch but i want to add more so i can go deeper in the mud. Okay, so I have a 2 inch puck lift, if I purchase a 2 inch coil, would I have a 4 imch lift, or would it not lift it anymore at all? Please give me honest opinions. Thank you.

-Jake

kjeeper10 07-01-2013 07:44 PM

Coils usually give more then advertised. All in all your looking at 4-5" of lift.
Steering/caster/pinion angles will all be screwed up if not set up correctly. control arms, TC drop or SYE/drive shaft(s) etc.

Do a small body lift along with the spacers. This will keep your driveline in check but give you more height for bigger meats. Remember ..... It's not the lift that gives you ground clearance at the diffs...., its the tires.

JakeBreen 07-01-2013 07:52 PM

I'm going to get the coils. I have slyjacker aftermarket shocks. What all would i have to do? Im just going to stick 33's on there.

kjeeper10 07-01-2013 08:09 PM

With the spacers ?

2"-2.5" is perfect for a 33" on a Tj. Do you know what the extended/collapsed lengths of your shocks are ?
You will lose articulation going higher with shocks that are too short.

JakeBreen 07-01-2013 08:14 PM

1-3 inch lift. But jeep grand cherokee had 6 inch with 1-3 inch shock

kjeeper10 07-01-2013 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by JakeBreen (Post 3918264)
1-3 inch lift. But jeep grand cherokee had 6 inch with 1-3 inch shock

Cherokee have ifs or solid axle ?

Point of longer shocks is to maximize suspension travel as long as there's no other limiting factors.

Water Dog 07-01-2013 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by JakeBreen (Post 3918264)
1-3 inch lift. But jeep grand cherokee had 6 inch with 1-3 inch shock

If you use 2" springs and 2" spacers (not what I would do), unless you either do an SYE or transfer case drop, you're going to wind up with driveline vibes. If you do a tc drop (typically an 1 1/2" on 4" of lift), your net gain is only 1/2" under the skid. If an sye is cost prohibitive (which I assume it is based on you wanting to use the spacers), consider a 4.25" Zone Combo lift...3" suspension, 1.25" body, and 1" motormount lift all for about $500, and no tc drop.

JakeBreen 07-01-2013 08:31 PM

I'm just going to have 2 inch spacers and 2 inch coil with 33's. i will drop the transfer case. I should be fine after i get in alligned after all the mods.

BustedKnuckle 07-01-2013 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by kjeeper10 (Post 3918241)

2"-2.5" is perfect for a 33" on a Tj.

For a street jeep maybe?

4" and 33's would be more appropriate if you want to get the full potential out of your parts. 33's are going to eat fenders on a 2.5" lift.

The info is right as far as the driveline goes. If your going 4 or more you definitely need to factor in what you are going to use to correct your pinion angle in the rear and Correct steering as well. Track bar for the rear will also need to be addressed.

JakeBreen 07-01-2013 08:46 PM

Will a 4-inch and 33's look stupid? Too much gap maybe?

Cape Fear Finn 07-01-2013 09:00 PM

Not at all. 4" and 33s go together like peas and carrots.

kjeeper10 07-01-2013 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by BustedKnuckle (Post 3918366)

For a street jeep maybe?

4" and 33's would be more appropriate if you want to get the full potential out of your parts. 33's are going to eat fenders on a 2.5" lift.

The info is right as far as the driveline goes. If your going 4 or more you definitely need to factor in what you are going to use to correct your pinion angle in the rear and Correct steering as well. Track bar for the rear will also need to be addressed.

Got the JK on my mind :hide:

JakeBreen 07-01-2013 09:03 PM

Well... I would go to 35's. reason I don't. I live in the heart/very center of wv. So I do more hill climbing then hitting mudholes. But the two reasons why i'm not getting 35's? Because I need more flex, and I have the legendary 2.5L 4-banger!!!

Water Dog 07-01-2013 09:06 PM

Sounds like you made up your mind..:rolleyes: :D

32.5" and 4"....

JakeBreen 07-01-2013 09:12 PM

Don't gotta be a S.A. with the roll eyes lol. I dig the jeep man. Mines all in process. Just bought alloy honey comb wheels. Now just need the 33's and the coil

Water Dog 07-01-2013 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by JakeBreen (Post 3918512)
Don't gotta be a S.A. with the roll eyes lol. I dig the jeep man. Mines all in process. Just bought alloy honey comb wheels. Now just need the 33's and the coil

Sorry, not trying to offend, it just seemed like you were given some really good advice by everyone that posted. Hope it works well for you.

Cape Fear Finn 07-01-2013 09:45 PM

I have looked at Water dog's jeep about 20 different times tonight. It is exactly what I want mine to look like someday. Me gusta.

JakeBreen 07-01-2013 09:47 PM

Well, it's just that i'm not looking for a full offroad vehicle. I want something as a everyday driver and something I can hill clim amd hit a(n) occasional mud pit with. Although, I do appreciate everyones thoughts. And you didn't offend, i'm the biggest smart ellik around haha

Missoulatj 07-01-2013 11:13 PM

Why not just do a 4" coil vs pucks and coils? My 33s rubbed with a two inch puck lift on road. I run the zone 4.5 combo and love it.

Water Dog what tube doors are those? I like them.

BustedKnuckle 07-01-2013 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JakeBreen (Post 3918470)
Well... I would go to 35's. reason I don't. I live in the heart/very center of wv. So I do more hill climbing then hitting mudholes. But the two reasons why i'm not getting 35's? Because I need more flex, and I have the legendary 2.5L 4-banger!!!

The four banger I understand, but don't underestimate what you can do with 35's as far as flex. My jeep is nothing special at all. 6" coils and adjustable arms on 35's..

http://i1120.photobucket.com/albums/...ps911b4851.jpg

http://i1120.photobucket.com/albums/...psfa867571.jpg

http://i1120.photobucket.com/albums/...psaa5e7fe9.jpg

I know my front fenders are mangled. I plan on getting tubes put on soon so no damns were given :thumb:

Pictures may not do it justice, but it wraps around terrain pretty darn good for a few budget parts thrown together I think. I can't knock you for wanting the 33's though. I am currently planning to go that route as well with a downsize to 4" of suspension.

JakeBreen 07-02-2013 06:37 AM

I think you won the First place flex award!!!

JakeBreen 07-02-2013 06:39 AM

And the reason why I'm going to keep the pucks is because they were givin' to me. And a two-inch coil is cheaper then a 4 inch. Just kind of low on $$$$ right now.

4Jeepn 07-02-2013 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by JakeBreen (Post 3919633)
And the reason why I'm going to keep the pucks is because they were givin' to me. And a two-inch coil is cheaper then a 4 inch. Just kind of low on $$$$ right now.

for that lift height you also will need a front adjustable track bar and at min a rear track bar bracket. you may also need adjustable upper arms as well. Its your jeep do as you wish.. but If i needed a rock solid daily driver and weekend mud toy... I would save for a few more months.. and get it done the right way with good products as it will pay off in the long run...

Melissas6570 07-02-2013 08:27 AM

X2

kjeeper10 07-02-2013 08:37 AM

And 3

Water Dog 07-02-2013 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Missoulatj (Post 3919106)
Water Dog what tube doors are those? I like them.

They're Warrior Products...then I just added a little pipe insulation and stretchable roll bar fabric on the top tubes for a soft place to rest my arm.

269jeep 07-02-2013 10:33 AM

What are you running for control arms, track bars, and sway bar set up with that combo?

Quote:

Originally Posted by JakeBreen (Post 3918338)
I'm just going to have 2 inch spacers and 2 inch coil with 33's. i will drop the transfer case. I should be fine after i get in alligned after all the mods.


kjeeper10 07-02-2013 10:44 AM

Not the best way to go about it but doesn't the early Tj's have cam bolts for caster ?

Water Dog 07-02-2013 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kjeeper10 (Post 3920217)
doesn't the early Tj's have cam bolts for caster ?

My "99" has cam bolts, but if I'm not mistaken, I think that was about the last year. I'll be getting rid of those once I get my Currie front arms....next mod.

Missoulatj 07-02-2013 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Water Dog (Post 3919932)

They're Warrior Products...then I just added a little pipe insulation and stretchable roll bar fabric on the top tubes for a soft place to rest my arm.

They look good, I've been considering getting a set of those.


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