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bluehash 07-01-2013 09:20 PM

Help with Gorilla Lug nuts - Wrench does not fit key.
 
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My gorilla locking lug nuts just came in today. The lug nuts screw into the lugs fine. The included key fits the lug nuts, but the factory wrench does not fit the key..
I bought this one.
Amazon.com: Gorilla Automotive 71684N "The System" Acorn Wheel Locks (1/2" Thread Size) - For 6 Lug Wheels: Automotive

Did they send me a wrong key?
Pics attached:

NFRs2000NYC 07-01-2013 09:24 PM

Not sure I'm understanding you...are you saying the key doesn't fit over the new lugs? Or are you saying the 5 point socket is not fitting on the other end of the key? It might be a different size than the factory bar.

bluehash 07-01-2013 09:26 PM

Sorry for not being clear.
Wrench does not fit the key.
Factory wrench->key->lug

NFRs2000NYC 07-01-2013 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by bluehash (Post 3918566)
Sorry for not being clear.
Wrench does not fit the key.
Factory wrench->key->lug

Its probably a different size. The factory wrench sucks anyway. Do yourself a favor and buy this.

Amazon.com: Gorilla Automotive 1721 Telescoping Power Wrench - Standard Socket: Automotive

bluehash 07-01-2013 09:42 PM

Thanks for the help.

Seeuoffroad 07-01-2013 09:55 PM

Do it correct. Get yourself a torque wrench and a socket that fits your key and keep them in your Jeep. Chances are you wouldn't break them locks loose with that wrench if it did fit.

bluehash 07-01-2013 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Seeuoffroad (Post 3918731)
Do it correct. Get yourself a torque wrench and a socket that fits your key and keep them in your Jeep. Chances are you wouldn't break them locks loose with that wrench if it did fit.

Thanks! do you have a suggestion on a torque wrench

BB1857 07-01-2013 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by bluehash (Post 3918797)

Thanks! do you have a suggestion on a torque wrench

I just bought 1/2 and 3/8 drive torque wrenches from Harbor Freight for $10 each. Now I know they aren't great tools and I should be ashamed for buying a Chinese tool but the small amount I will be using them I couldn't justify the big dollars for the others.

Ruby Tuesday 07-01-2013 11:19 PM

I carry a 1/2 drive ratchet and proper size socket (forget the size) plus a short extension.

marc10000 07-01-2013 11:23 PM

Or just go to your local automotive store and get a 4 way star lug wrench. Mine fits the gorrilla key perfect. They also work much better for breaking the lugs loose because you can use 2 hands opposing the axial plane.

wfbill 07-02-2013 05:25 AM

The problem with a regular lug wrench is they are too thick. You need a thin walled socket for this application, or like someone suggested above, buy the Gorilla telescoping lugnut wrench. Just be sure to get the thin wall one.

Amazon.com: Gorilla Automotive 1334 Telescoping Power Wrench: Automotive

shoreco 07-02-2013 05:50 AM

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Originally Posted by bluehash (Post 3918546)
My gorilla locking lug nuts just came in today. The lug nuts screw into the lugs fine. The included key fits the lug nuts, but the factory wrench does not fit the key..
I bought this one.
Amazon.com: Gorilla Automotive 71684N "The System" Acorn Wheel Locks (1/2" Thread Size) - For 6 Lug Wheels: Automotive

Did they send me a wrong key?
Pics attached:

I went out and bought a thin walled socket and a breaker bar and store them with the stock jack....

Gort 07-02-2013 09:33 AM

Interesting. I'm going to have to check into this. I have Gorilla lugs, too, but not the same set. These are the ones that I have.

http://www.quadratec.com/products/15007_03.htm

I haven't had a need to use the factory wrench yet, though. I use a 4-way that I've had for quite a while, and the 3/4" end fits the factory nuts and the Gorilla key just fine.

I also have a 3/4" deep socket that I use with my torque wrench to re-torque the nuts which also fits both the factory nuts and the Gorilla key.

Now I'm going to have to go check to see if they work with the factory wrench because the last thing I need is to get a flat in BFE while carrying only a lug wrench that won't fit.

bluehash 07-02-2013 10:12 AM

Thanks Guys.

Gort, mine says "The System" on it. Model 71684N

Jeepin Jesse 02-19-2014 03:52 PM

Thread revival!!...

I just bought these same locks 71681N and ran into the same issue as bluehash. After more digging online I found the 71481N that Gort just linked up above. I figured they are the same thing, only one comes with 21mm (13/16") key and the other has 19mm (3/4"). So I called 4 Wheel Parts, which is where I bought them to ask if I can return and switch. They looked it up and told me that the 71481N are just normal spline nuts that anyone can buy the key for. The 71681N have a serialized key that you need to special order.

I still feel like these are the same and he either was blowing smoke or didn't know. Any ideas or insight??

sideburn 02-19-2014 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BB1857 (Post 3918991)
I just bought 1/2 and 3/8 drive torque wrenches from Harbor Freight for $10 each. Now I know they aren't great tools and I should be ashamed for buying a Chinese tool but the small amount I will be using them I couldn't justify the big dollars for the others.

This...

I also have one I got from Lowes which is a bit nicer and ran me $40 bucks.

G-Mike 02-21-2014 12:09 PM

Search "Gorilla wheels locks" in JK General Discussion Forum and see thread started by LOL WUT 12/6/2. Gorilla makes 2 different sets - one that anyone can buy the key for at any auto store (6 spline) and one set that has special-keyed 5-spline set

okcscott 02-21-2014 03:29 PM

You probable know this, but don't use the torque wrench as a breaker bar or ratchet to remove lug nuts. Just use for final torque and then return wrench to zero when done.

SteedGun 02-21-2014 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Gort (Post 3920026)
Interesting. I'm going to have to check into this. I have Gorilla lugs, too, but not the same set. These are the ones that I have.

Gorilla Automotive 71481NB5 - Gorilla High Security Wheel Lock Set in Chrome for JeepĀ® Vehicles - Quadratec

I haven't had a need to use the factory wrench yet, though. I use a 4-way that I've had for quite a while, and the 3/4" end fits the factory nuts and the Gorilla key just fine.

I also have a 3/4" deep socket that I use with my torque wrench to re-torque the nuts which also fits both the factory nuts and the Gorilla key.

Now I'm going to have to go check to see if they work with the factory wrench because the last thing I need is to get a flat in BFE while carrying only a lug wrench that won't fit.

Yup, star tool works like a charm.

Jeepin Jesse 02-24-2014 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by G-Mike (Post 8458649)
Search "Gorilla wheels locks" in JK General Discussion Forum and see thread started by LOL WUT 12/6/2. Gorilla makes 2 different sets - one that anyone can buy the key for at any auto store (6 spline) and one set that has special-keyed 5-spline set

I read through this thread and still can't tell if there is a difference between the 2 numbers I listed. These both look like the special keyed set, but with different size hex on the key. Can anyone confirm this? I just want lockers that will work with the factory 3/4" wrench.

G-Mike 02-24-2014 02:44 PM

Some confusion on both our parts. I am not familiar with all of the Gorilla lug nut products. My understanding is that there are two types - the "acorn" type and the spline-drive type (i.e. the 5 spline vs 6 spline). Most of the info on the thread mentioned are for the much more secure spline-drive type. Looks like you have the acorn type. The background research I did before I bought the Quadratec spline-drive kit led me to believe that nearly all the "acorn" types are rather easily defeated by simply driving a hardened socket wrench onto the nut, although Gorilla would probably argue that. This probably doesn't help you much since you have bought the acorns already. Hope you find the answers you're looking for.

Jeepin Jesse 02-27-2014 03:52 PM

Ok, I just got off the phone with what I think was the owner of Gorilla. He was very nice cleared some things up. I was correct that the 2 part #s I listed earlier are actually the same thing with different sized key hex. He said I can order the 3/4" key for my set for $10.50. So now I need to decide if I do that or just get a telescoping kit.

I also asked about security and using a star socket to remove the acorns. He said he has heard claims, but never seen or witnessed it. Many shops call that can't remove them without a key. The spline styles that the other thread claimed to be better are the ones that only have 5 keys that anyone can order from anywhere, not the serialized key. They are not considered locks.


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