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aamcotrans 07-08-2013 03:29 PM

Installed a RER Nav today
 
Thanks to other people posting the directions, it was a rather easy and quick install. All controls work properly, but I can not seem to get the nav to locate where I am. It is showing me in NC rather than Florida.
The radio I replaced had sat radio and blue tooth, but no nav. It was my understanding that the nav worked off of the sat antenna so no other antennas were needed.
Is this a common issue that it takes time to find itself, or do I need a seperate antenna?
Any help will be much appreciated.

It is a 2012 JK

LoveJiuJitsu 07-08-2013 03:46 PM

Wouldn't it require one of those satellite pucks?

aamcotrans 07-08-2013 04:06 PM

The radio is from a 2012 also, so I don't know why it would be any different

aamcotrans 07-08-2013 09:03 PM

Nevermind, I had to drive it for a mile, nut it all works perfectly now

aamcotrans 07-11-2013 10:40 AM

All is working well with the exception of my microphone. Has anyone else had this issue after a radio swap?

panthermark 07-11-2013 10:44 AM

A 130 to 430/430N is a plug and play swap.

A 130 to a 730N in not a plug and play swap because the 730N uses a different mic than the 130/430/430N.

You need a different mic, and if possibly a flash (can't remember for sure).

jwilson2598 07-11-2013 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by aamcotrans (Post 3950112)
All is working well with the exception of my microphone. Has anyone else had this issue after a radio swap?

If you had a 130 and went to a 730, there's a harness you need to bypass the UConnect module your 130 had and use the internal UConnect module in the 730. I'll see if I can dig up the part number for you.

aamcotrans 07-12-2013 05:08 PM

Thanks for the help

jwilson2598 07-12-2013 08:35 PM

So, I found the part you need. It's part number 82212906 from the dealer. I've seen them on eBay and other places too.

Doctorsti 07-12-2013 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by jwilson2598 (Post 3956041)
So, I found the part you need. It's part number 82212906 from the dealer. I've seen them on eBay and other places too.

Do you still need this harness if you rewire/re-pin the microphone plug to the main harness from the mic Uconnect harness?

I was under the impression you only needed the microphone, rewired or mopar stick on mic for the 730N, and the USB extension cable to bring the USB from where it would connect to the uconnect module to the 730N.

What does this accessory harness do in particular. Description says "re-enables hands free when upgrading from 130/430/430N to 730N.

Is it just the microphone rewire?

JK-linux 07-12-2013 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by jwilson2598 (Post 3956041)
So, I found the part you need. It's part number 82212906 from the dealer. I've seen them on eBay and other places too.

The part is legit. Thanks, I'm moving from a 430N to 730N next week...

NEW HARNESS KIT TO RE-ENABLE HANDS FREE

Upon further inspection, it is for connecting to a microphone enabled mirror. Apparnetly not for the pillar mounted mic.

"Wiring kit for customers who upgraded to the uconnect GPS (RER/RHR) radio and already have factory installed uconnect phone module with a microphone mirror"

Doctorsti 07-12-2013 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by JK-linux (Post 3956196)
The part is legit. Thanks, I'm moving from a 430N to 730N next week...

NEW HARNESS KIT TO RE-ENABLE HANDS FREE

Upon further inspection, it is for connecting to a microphone enabled mirror. Apparnetly not for the pillar mounted mic.

"Wiring kit for customers who upgraded to the uconnect GPS (RER/RHR) radio and already have factory installed uconnect phone module with a microphone mirror"

I think that's just because they didn't change the description for each of the wiring harnesses for different vehicles. The Grand Cherokee had a mic mirror and some other's in the chrysler family I'm sure. It looks like the kit is designed to simply take the wider multi pin plug and the USB plug from the Uconnect module and the outputs are USB and just rewired microphone (small gray) plug. I bought a USB extension cord and was going to attempt to pull a few wires out of the Uconnect wider plug and replace the ones in the small gray plug used for the microphone in the 730N. Would have been 20 bucks and my time fiddling with the plugs. I hear it's super easy. There is a thread on here about how to do it.
http://www.wranglerforum.com/f33/wir...0n-118131.html


with all that said I also just ordered the kit. My luck I would screw something up pulling the connectors apart and the 60 bucks extra for complete plug and play was worth my time trying to figure out the pin reconfiguration. This way too I won't have to wrap anything up or protect any connections, just unplug and replug all connectors and close her up. The next big question will be do I need a Dealer flash or will it just work? Some say yay and some say nay.

JK-linux 07-12-2013 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Doctorsti (Post 3956235)
I think that's just because they didn't change the description for each of the wiring harnesses for different vehicles. The Grand Cherokee had a mic mirror and some other's in the chrysler family I'm sure. It looks like the kit is designed to simply take the wider multi pin plug and the USB plug from the Uconnect module and the outputs are USB and just rewired microphone (small gray) plug. I bought a USB extension cord and was going to attempt to pull a few wires out of the Uconnect wider plug and replace the ones in the small gray plug used for the microphone in the 730N. Would have been 20 bucks and my time fiddling with the plugs. I hear it's super easy. There is a thread on here about how to do it.
http://www.wranglerforum.com/f33/wir...0n-118131.html


with all that said I also just ordered the kit. My luck I would screw something up pulling the connectors apart and the 60 bucks extra for complete plug and play was worth my time trying to figure out the pin reconfiguration. This way too I won't have to wrap anything up or protect any connections, just unplug and replug all connectors and close her up. The next big question will be do I need a Dealer flash or will it just work? Some say yay and some say nay.

Interesting. The "audio guy" at the dealership is suppose to be contacting me next week a few days before my Wednesday install. I asked him to call and discuss this particular issue because I'm pretty sure they haven't a clue about all this 430N <-> 730N stuff. I'll bring up the part in question to him and see if it rings any bells. My concern is that they will assume it is plug and play and I'm going to wind up with a 730N that does radio and nav, but is useless for phone and Ipod/USB.

Doctorsti 07-12-2013 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by JK-linux (Post 3956284)
Interesting. The "audio guy" at the dealership is suppose to be contacting me next week a few days before my Wednesday install. I asked him to call and discuss this particular issue because I'm pretty sure they haven't a clue about all this 430N <-> 730N stuff. I'll bring up the part in question to him and see if it rings any bells. My concern is that they will assume it is plug and play and I'm going to wind up with a 730N that does radio and nav, but is useless for phone and Ipod/USB.

yep there are only 3 options as far as all of my research has concluded.
if going from 130N/430N with factory Uconnect module to 730N

You need: (3 options)
1. new microphone Mopar part number 82211743AB and aftermarket USB extension ($34 and $20 = $74)
2. Harness and USB extension mopar part number 82212906 ($81)
3. Aftermarket USB extension and DIY repin of microphone connector ($20)

It seems many point to a dealer flash to tell the canbus system to not look for the Uconnect module as it won't exist anymore and tell it to otherwise know a 730N is installed.
I first chose option 1, then chose to revert to option 3, and then felt that the easiest option was #2. With #1 you have to find a good place to put the new stick on microphone... that would be difficult and could look awful but it's the best option for anyone that DIDN'T get factory uconnect. Option #3 is the cheapest but requires rewiring things. Option #2 is complete plug and play but most expensive.

JK-linux 07-12-2013 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doctorsti (Post 3956524)
yep there are only 3 options as far as all of my research has concluded.
if going from 130N/430N with factory Uconnect module to 730N

You need: (3 options)
1. new microphone Mopar part number 82211743AB and aftermarket USB extension ($34 and $20 = $74)
2. Harness and USB extension mopar part number 82212906 ($81)
3. Aftermarket USB extension and DIY repin of microphone connector ($20)

It seems many point to a dealer flash to tell the canbus system to not look for the Uconnect module as it won't exist anymore and tell it to otherwise know a 730N is installed.
I first chose option 1, then chose to revert to option 3, and then felt that the easiest option was #2. With #1 you have to find a good place to put the new stick on microphone... that would be difficult and could look awful but it's the best option for anyone that DIDN'T get factory uconnect. Option #3 is the cheapest but requires rewiring things. Option #2 is complete plug and play but most expensive.

That's pretty much what I found as well. Well, I just read about option number 2... so, ya know.. Anyhow, I'm going down the same road as you right now. I'd prefer to use the mic in the front window surround/pillar. It's a good place and it has worked well with the 430N. I have no time to pull my stereo and splice wires. I doubt the dealership is going to do that either - even if I pay them, print out the forum how-to, and talk them though it. A wiring harness that does the whole thing would be great, assuming the works for more than rearview mirror microphones (like my 2008 Dodge Charger has with the RER). The RHR is a different bus, different stereo, different mic... we'll see. Thanks for the part number!

jwilson2598 07-12-2013 11:59 PM

Yes, it will work for the pillar mics, they just didn't change the description. The adapter harness goes at the radio end, which will be the same for a pillar or mirror mic. Also give you the USB extension as mentioned above too.

panthermark 07-13-2013 03:26 AM

Good to know there is now a kit (option 2) that can use the factory 130/430 mics.
While you can get a USB extension from Amazon for a couple of bucks....I thought option 1 needed a dealer flash.

Option 2 now sounds like the way to go.

JK-linux 07-21-2013 06:31 PM

My installation went well. They used the harness that jwilson2598 identified for us - 82211743AB. Thanks for that... it would have delayed the install a few days as it isn't a part they normally stock at the dealerships (3 of them) around here.

Anyhow, they pulled out my discrete Uconnect module, popped in the new harness, reused the pillar-mounted microphone, hit it with Starscan, and that was about it. I asked for the security code from my old radio and already sold it to another forum member (for the same as I paid for the 730N). All in all, I switched from the 430N to the 730N for $250 which as the cost of the harness + installation.

Thanks WF for saving me some time and money!

Aroon 07-22-2013 02:28 AM

Last week i bought a 430n on eBay. The seller assure me that its new in box never installed year 2013. but might need security code. I called the dealer to set appointment to install on Tuesday and was told it will cost me 100 buck or so more. to install. Today we were hanging out BBQ at my older brother Inlaw and my other brother were just finishing installing touch screen radio. We talked about what i bought and he told me he could save me money just to let him do it for free. After watching a short install from YouTube and got the idea where screw locate. He work right to it. Took about 15 minutes Plug and play like most people mentioned. From model 130 to 430n radio. What surprise is that the unit say anti theft but didn't ask for one. The iPhone I never have to relink, it works. The Sirius radio , I thought I have to call them to change ID but it came right on. All this I wonder if cambus or unconnect have memory built in. Dose anyone has to worry about security code at later time when battery is disconnected or get siriusxm radio ID change?

panthermark 07-22-2013 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Aroon (Post 3988918)
Last week i bought a 430n on eBay. The seller assure me that its new in box never installed year 2013. but might need security code. I called the dealer to set appointment to install on Tuesday and was told it will cost me 100 buck or so more. to install. Today we were hanging out BBQ at my older brother Inlaw and my other brother were just finishing installing touch screen radio. We talked about what i bought and he told me he could save me money just to let him do it for free. After watching a short install from YouTube and got the idea where screw locate. He work right to it. Took about 15 minutes Plug and play like most people mentioned. From model 130 to 430n radio. What surprise is that the unit say anti theft but didn't ask for one. The iPhone I never have to relink, it works. The Sirius radio , I thought I have to call them to change ID but it came right on. All this I wonder if cambus or unconnect have memory built in. Dose anyone has to worry about security code at later time when battery is disconnected or get siriusxm radio ID change?

A brand new, never installed unit does not need a security code to install. However, if you sell it, you will need find out the security code and give it to the new buyer.

As far as Sirius goes...not sure if you have the 12 months free or not with a brands new unit.

All of your Uconnect info is stored from your 130, so yeah...the swap is really, really, easy....:thumb:

Aroon 07-22-2013 11:26 AM

Thanks for the info.

Williker 08-18-2013 02:06 AM

REC to RER upgrade?
 
Has anyone done an REC to RER upgrade? Half rhe people I have seen who have done it with a Lockpick say all they do is install the new radio with the Lockpick and a new UConnect microphone and everything works fine without disconnecting the old UConnect module.
Some people say they had to disconnect their old UConnect unit totally.
Just curious who has done what and what works.

ESA31.8T 12-25-2013 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doctorsti (Post 3956524)
yep there are only 3 options as far as all of my research has concluded.
if going from 130N/430N with factory Uconnect module to 730N

You need: (3 options)
1. new microphone Mopar part number 82211743AB and aftermarket USB extension ($34 and $20 = $74)
2. Harness and USB extension mopar part number 82212906 ($81)
3. Aftermarket USB extension and DIY repin of microphone connector ($20)

It seems many point to a dealer flash to tell the canbus system to not look for the Uconnect module as it won't exist anymore and tell it to otherwise know a 730N is installed.
I first chose option 1, then chose to revert to option 3, and then felt that the easiest option was #2. With #1 you have to find a good place to put the new stick on microphone... that would be difficult and could look awful but it's the best option for anyone that DIDN'T get factory uconnect. Option #3 is the cheapest but requires rewiring things. Option #2 is complete plug and play but most expensive.


Has anyone with a 2012 or 2013 Rubicon upgraded from an RES 130 with connectivity group (handsfree/bluetooth/USB in center console) to an RHR 730n and used option number 2 above?

Is part number 82212906 all that is needed besides the dealer visit for the starscan update?

I just purchased an RHR unit and plan on installing it myself. I want to order the harness but I've read a ton of confilcting bits of information.:pullinghair:


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