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2013JKU 07-11-2013 08:57 AM

Soft Windows Pop Open 80+mph
 
I have a 2013 4 door with the factory soft top. Whenever I'm driving over 75 on the highway my windows burst open. Maybe I'm putting them in wrong?

To be clear, by burst open I mean the part that is held by the door comes out, resulting in flappy ness for the rest of my drive.

Hoot2 07-11-2013 09:04 AM

You don't have your side windows in right. Start by zipping a couple inches at the top, and then take that plastic corner piece that you think the door is holding in, and wrap it INTO the actual plastic door surround channel. Basically, you shouldn't see any of the threaded lines right around there if you wrap it in enough. Then zip the rest of the way, while doing the bottom lip while you're at it. Then Velcro. I guarantee you your windows will stay in. A lot of people, including myself, messed this up our first couple weeks of Jeep ownership!

Iron Clad Lou 07-11-2013 09:04 AM

you must be putting them in wrong...post a pic so I can see how you put them in.

2013JKU 07-11-2013 09:10 AM

Mind blown - I'm stuck in traffic right now. Debating getting out and doing this

derfC 07-11-2013 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Hoot2 (Post 3949992)
You don't have your side windows in right. Start by zipping a couple inches at the top, and then take that plastic corner piece that you think the door is holding in, and wrap it INTO the actual plastic door surround channel. Basically, you shouldn't see any of the threaded lines right around there if you wrap it in enough. Then zip the rest of the way, while doing the bottom lip while you're at it. Then Velcro. I guarantee you your windows will stay in. A lot of people, including myself, messed this up our first couple weeks of Jeep ownership!

Yep. Your window should wrap AROUND and into the slot in the door surround and form a 'C' shape rather than an 'L' shape.

FWIW, I'm ALWAYS seeing people riding around with flappin' windows.

panthermark 07-11-2013 11:08 AM

Yup, that is probably the most common mistake made when installing the softtop....getting the extra 90 degree turn.


Start by first zipping them an inch or two....just enough to hold them there. Then work on getting the windows all the way into the groove. It is a square "U", not an "L".

Esturk 07-11-2013 11:24 AM

When I got my jeep, I ordered a full owners manual and read the entire section on installing the soft top for the first time. Never had a problem installing it ever. You can even download a PDF of the manual. The sheet that comes with the top is useless as is the small manual that you get with the jeep.

bluehash 07-11-2013 12:29 PM

I did the same mistake. Now it sits nice and snug!

DC Dennis 07-22-2013 11:10 AM

Good to know!

Now, after three weeks of ownership, latching the sunrider top back down after flipping it back remains an issue, even on 90+* days. Any suggestions? I seem to need the header an extra 1/4 inch forward than it naturally falls each time.

panthermark 07-22-2013 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by DC Dennis (Post 3989757)
Good to know!

Now, after three weeks of ownership, latching the sunrider top back down after flipping it back remains an issue, even on 90+* days. Any suggestions? I seem to need the header an extra 1/4 inch forward than it naturally falls each time.

Make sure you open the clamshells all the way....that helps.
Also, get in the passanger seat, move it all the way forward, bring the seat-back to an upright position, and try it from there. You get a lot more leverage that way.

DC Dennis 07-22-2013 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by panthermark (Post 3989806)
Make sure you open the clamshells all the way....that helps.
Also, get in the passanger seat, move it all the way forward, bring the seat-back to an upright position, and try it from there. You get a lot more leverage that way.

If I remove the rear sail panels things jiggle and it falls into place on its own. There is something I am missing to make it easy. It just seems that I should not have to force a convenience thing like this.

The quality is so much higher than the old YJ's factory and SuperTops, but the simplicity seems to be gone.

Dingus 07-22-2013 12:20 PM

DC Dennis. I spent all yesterday in 90 degree heat trying to get that last 1/2 inch needed to close the soft top. Panthermark is correct. You must open the front header clips (clamshells) all the way. This forces the clip forward an extra 1/2 inch. Not 90 degrees, but almost a full 180 until they cannot open anymore. Took me two hours to figure that out. Then, worked like a champ.

Marc W 07-22-2013 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by 2013JKU (Post 3950006)
Mind blown - I'm stuck in traffic right now. Debating getting out and doing this

So... you drive at 80+ mph on the hwy in a Jeep and are posting on this forum while driving in traffic. I think your next investment should be a helmet/Hans device and some headlight flashers so everybody else can see you coming.... :hide:

sunnykk 07-22-2013 12:27 PM

I don't have access to the computer but if you go to my history and find a thread that I started sometime last year. I had the exact same problem and I have some pics in my original post.

You are not inserting he edge all the way inside.

sunnykk 07-22-2013 08:04 PM

Here is the link to the thread from last year which shows the pics. I had the same issue the first time I installed my soft top.

http://www.wranglerforum.com/f33/ins...at-156388.html

DC Dennis 07-23-2013 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Dingus (Post 3989952)
DC Dennis. I spent all yesterday in 90 degree heat trying to get that last 1/2 inch needed to close the soft top. Panthermark is correct. You must open the front header clips (clamshells) all the way. This forces the clip forward an extra 1/2 inch. Not 90 degrees, but almost a full 180 until they cannot open anymore. Took me two hours to figure that out. Then, worked like a champ.

Oh, I do that, still come up a fraction of an inch short. They get over the edge, but not quite there.

DC Dennis 07-23-2013 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Marc W (Post 3989969)
So... you drive at 80+ mph on the hwy in a Jeep and are posting on this forum while driving in traffic. I think your next investment should be a helmet/Hans device and some headlight flashers so everybody else can see you coming.... :hide:

UConnect, dude! :dance:

panthermark 07-23-2013 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by DC Dennis (Post 3993776)
Oh, I do that, still come up a fraction of an inch short. They get over the edge, but not quite there.

Like I said before, get in the passenger seat, slide it all the way forward, tilt the back of the seat so that it is straight up, and try from that position. You will find that it is MUCH easier to get the forward leverage you need.

Posts On Percocet 07-23-2013 11:12 AM

What everyone else said. Not installed correctly.

DC Dennis 07-23-2013 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by panthermark (Post 3993790)
Like I said before, get in the passenger seat, slide it all the way forward, tilt the back of the seat so that it is straight up, and try from that position. You will find that it is MUCH easier to get the forward leverage you need.

Yeah, that will work. I just feel there must be a way to throw it back, and pull it forward. I mean if it works that easily in the commercials, it must work that way in real life, right? ;) Commercials have to tell the truth, I read that on the internet....

DC Dennis 07-23-2013 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Posts On Percocet (Post 3993794)
What everyone else said. Not installed correctly.

Are you directing that to those with window issues, or my SunRider problem?

panthermark 07-23-2013 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by DC Dennis (Post 3993796)
Yeah, that will work. I just feel there must be a way to throw it back, and pull it forward. I mean if it works that easily in the commercials, it must work that way in real life, right? ;) Commercials have to tell the truth, I read that on the internet....

Oui...

http://www.dowackado.com/wp/wp-conte...UdO1qe1ey2.png

michiganadam 07-23-2013 11:34 AM

your sunrider problem sounds like your sunrider clips either aren't clipped into the plastic door surrounds or you have the wrong door surrounds that lack the clips. Should be very very easy to re-latch after using the sunrider feature.

michiganadam 07-23-2013 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by DC Dennis (Post 3993796)
Yeah, that will work. I just feel there must be a way to throw it back, and pull it forward. I mean if it works that easily in the commercials, it must work that way in real life, right? ;) Commercials have to tell the truth, I read that on the internet....

it works that easily for me, except theres an elaborate way you have to fold the fabric to open it.

DC Dennis 07-23-2013 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by michiganadam (Post 3993861)
your sunrider problem sounds like your sunrider clips either aren't clipped into the plastic door surrounds or you have the wrong door surrounds that lack the clips. Should be very very easy to re-latch after using the sunrider feature.

Clips are there, the soft top frame/sun rider brackets are clipped in, all I can think of is the surrounds are not forward enough, but they are in the right holes. Maybe it will wear itself in with a few more weeks of use. My only bummer part is that I have been scratching up the brand new paint on the footman loops.

michiganadam 07-23-2013 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by DC Dennis (Post 3993990)
Clips are there, the soft top frame/sun rider brackets are clipped in, all I can think of is the surrounds are not forward enough, but they are in the right holes. Maybe it will wear itself in with a few more weeks of use. My only bummer part is that I have been scratching up the brand new paint on the footman loops.

It's going to scratch the paint, thats unavoidable.

Are you opening your latches all the way, which extends them out further?

DC Dennis 07-23-2013 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by michiganadam (Post 3994178)
It's going to scratch the paint, thats unavoidable.

Are you opening your latches all the way, which extends them out further?

But, of course.

Havok 07-23-2013 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by DC Dennis (Post 3994327)
But, of course.

are you in DC metro area? I can swing by and take a look see at what the issue is?

Havok 07-23-2013 02:02 PM

also, OP you can do 80 in your jeep? are you posting just to brag? :rofl:

InvertChaos 07-23-2013 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Havok (Post 3994370)
also, OP you can do 80 in your jeep? are you posting just to brag? :rofl:

You can't?! :confused:


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