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rooster22 07-12-2013 02:00 PM

2001 TJ, drop or entirely pull drive shaft?
 
If I use a tow dolly to tow my daughter's Jeep, I know I will need to drop or pull the drive shaft. How difficult a job is it to pull the snap rings on the U Joint(s) to do this? I have a small snap ring pliers, but is a large snap ring pliers needed? Would I need to just disconnect the drive shaft at the rear, then "wire up" the hanging drive shaft, or better to remove drive shaft front and rear?

Thanks for any advise.

Regards,
Rooster22

jeepwayoflife 07-12-2013 02:03 PM

You don't need to pull the driveshaft... you just put the jeep in gear and the transfer case in neutral.

WVU Mountainman 07-12-2013 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rooster22 (Post 3955023)
If I use a tow dolly to tow my daughter's Jeep, I know I will need to drop or pull the drive shaft. How difficult a job is it to pull the snap rings on the U Joint(s) to do this? I have a small snap ring pliers, but is a large snap ring pliers needed? Would I need to just disconnect the drive shaft at the rear, then "wire up" the hanging drive shaft, or better to remove drive shaft front and rear?

Thanks for any advise.

Regards,
Rooster22

Even if you drop the driveshafts you do not need to pull the snap rings. Just remove the 2 rear u joint straps(2 bolts per strap) and slide the slip yoke off the TC output shaft. Then do the same on the front: 2 straps in front two straps in rear connecting to the TC yoke. Once removed take a thin strip of duct tape and wrap a few times around the top of the u joint caps to keep them from falling off and creating a nightmare of needle bearing pins everywhere. Last time I removed my front driveshaft for maintenance I didn't even have to drop the TC skid plate. :)

This is info only for pulling driveshafts. I'm not sure if you need to do this for towing. I do not think you have too.

jeeps4u2nv88 07-12-2013 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by WVU Mountainman (Post 3955092)
Even if you drop the driveshafts you do not need to pull the snap rings. Just remove the 2 rear u joint straps(2 bolts per strap) and slide the slip yoke off the TC output shaft. Then do the same on the front: 2 straps in front two straps in rear connecting to the TC yoke. Once removed take a thin strip of duct tape and wrap a few times around the top of the u joint caps to keep them from falling off and creating a nightmare of needle bearing pins everywhere. Last time I removed my front driveshaft for maintenance I didn't even have to drop the TC skid plate. :)

This is info only for pulling driveshafts. I'm not sure if you need to do this for towing. I do not think you have too.

X2

Just did this with my Jeep a few weeks ago. Pulled the drive shaft and you're all set.

Jerry Bransford 07-12-2013 03:05 PM

When using a tow dolly that holds the front tires up & off the ground, it is indeed required that the rear driveshaft be either disconnected at the rear axle end which is easier, or removed entirely. That requirement is indeed different from flat-towing it with all four tires on the ground where neither driveshaft needs to be removed.

You only need to disconnect the rear of the driveshaft where it is held to the rear axle's yoke by two small steel straps. Remove the four small 8mm head bolts that hold the straps that hold the u-joint into the yoke, then pull the u-joint out of the yoke... the u-joint will remain connected to the driveshaft. Then secure the tail-end of the driveshaft up & out of the way using zip ties, rope, etc. so it won't fall down & drag on the highway as you tow your Jeep. To prevent their loss, put the two u-joint straps & their four bolts into your cup holder or similar safe location.

Water Dog 07-12-2013 03:07 PM

There would be no need to pull the front ds if it's on a dolly. The rear is all you would have to do. You could also use a tow bar and tow it 4 down with no dolly without removing any drive shafts.

rooster22 07-12-2013 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeepwayoflife (Post 3955028)
You don't need to pull the driveshaft... you just put the jeep in gear and the transfer case in neutral.


The TJ has a 5 speed manual tranny. Is there a need to put the jeep in gear, or is leaving in neutral okay? I will for sure put the transfer case in neutral.

I have also been advised to pull of a battery cable. Easy enough to do, but I have no idea why this was advised. Any comment??

Jerry Bransford 07-12-2013 03:12 PM

No need to disconnect the battery. And with the rear driveshaft disconnected from the rear axle, and the front axle's tires up on the tow dolly, the transmission can be in Neutral or in gear, it doesn't matter. Same with the transfer case, it can be in any position like 2Hi or Neutral, it doesn't matter when using a tow-dolly.

The above applies ONLY when using a tow-dolly. :)

WVU Mountainman 07-12-2013 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jerry Bransford (Post 3955209)
When using a tow dolly that holds the front tires up & off the ground, it is indeed required that the rear driveshaft be either disconnected at the rear axle end which is easier, or removed entirely. That requirement is indeed different from flat-towing it with all four tires on the ground where neither driveshaft needs to be removed.

You only need to disconnect the rear of the driveshaft where it is held to the rear axle's yoke by two small steel straps. Remove the four small 8mm head bolts that hold the straps that hold the u-joint into the yoke, then pull the u-joint out of the yoke... the u-joint will remain connected to the driveshaft. Then secure the tail-end of the driveshaft up & out of the way using zip ties, rope, etc. so it won't fall down & drag on the highway as you tow your Jeep. To prevent their loss, put the two u-joint straps & their four bolts into your cup holder or similar safe location.

Any worry about the u joint caps coming off, or do the typically stay put. I always have the habit of taping the caps on. Is this unnecessary?

Jerry Bransford 07-12-2013 04:31 PM

Taping the bearing caps on wouldn't be a bad idea, though a properly-greased cap is not very likely to fall off.

WVU Mountainman 07-12-2013 04:53 PM

Thx Jerry

rooster22 07-13-2013 08:30 AM

Thanks guys, I think to be on the safe side, I will disconnect the drive shaft at the rear just to be on the safe side, when using a tow dolly. Pulling four 8 MM bolts sounds easy enough.

Thanks for all the sound and quick advise.............Rooster22


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