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JakeBreen 07-13-2013 06:01 PM

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Wanting some honest opinions on the bfg T/A ko

WVU Mountainman 07-13-2013 06:04 PM

Good tire. Sucks in mud. Wears well if you rotate regularly. If you will be on the rocks find a tire with a stronger sidewall.

NJO 07-13-2013 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by JakeBreen (Post 3958676)
Wanting some honest opinions on the bfg T/A ko

Fantastic tire. Will last you 100k miles if you keep em PROPERLY INFLATED and BALANCED.

They are superb on road, low noise, great wet/snow traction.

They are also very good in dirt/mud too.......so my opinion differs from the party above. However I say this assuming your looking at a 10.5" wide version.

Also for example a BFG AT KO 33x10.5" will outperform a 33x12.5" BFG MT as a good example, and do so being vastly superior on road in terms of road noise traction etc.

JakeBreen 07-13-2013 06:14 PM

12.5.

JakeBreen 07-13-2013 06:15 PM

I've been looking at them for awhile. Just getting a 33 12.5.

WVU Mountainman 07-13-2013 06:15 PM

Mine are 10.50 width. The lugs are so close together, they do not clean out mud effectively and turn to slicks quickly.

Dirt is another story. The work very well.

My wife barely hit a curb going slowly and put gash in the sidewall.

I do agree they last forever if well maintained and are quiet and well behaved on the road and off.

NJO 07-13-2013 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by JakeBreen (Post 3958702)
12.5.

If your looking at a specific tire and its available in a 10.5" width, that's what you should be grabbing. 12.5" wide tires are inferior overall on the Jeep platform compared to their 10.5" wide counterparts(if available. I run 33's and 35" tires.....both are 10.5" width. I would NEVER run a 12.5" on a TJ/LJ unless I am forced to.

JakeBreen 07-13-2013 06:20 PM

Where in WV do you live?

NJO 07-13-2013 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by WVU Mountainman (Post 3958704)
Mine are 10.50 width. The lugs are so close together, they do not clean out mud effectively and turn to slicks quickly.

Dirt is another story. The work very well.

My wife barely hit a curb going slowly and put gash in the sidewall.

I do agree they last forever if well maintained and are quiet and well behaved on the road and off.

For mud air em up.....way UP. I run my BFG AT KO's near max PSI for when running through mud. 25-30psi don't cut it on AT KO's in mud.

When you run a narrow tire width like your 10.5's with a smaller block pattern you have to air UP. When you do, the lugs have no problems cleanin themselves out.

BFG AT/KO's are actually fantastic in the mud when used properly for that situation.

JakeBreen 07-13-2013 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by NJO (Post 3958712)
If your looking at a specific tire and its available in a 10.5" width, that's what you should be grabbing. 12.5" wide tires are inferior overall on the Jeep platform compared to their 10.5" wide counterparts(if available. I run 33's and 35" tires.....both are 10.5" width. I would NEVER run a 12.5" on a TJ/LJ unless I am forced to.

I usually always run a 12.5 and never had a problem

NJO 07-13-2013 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by JakeBreen (Post 3958728)
I usually always run a 12.5 and never had a problem

12.5's are inferior on a Jeep compared to the 10.5" counterparts(again if available)assuming identical model tire.......10.5's put less wear and tear on your steering(significantly less wheel scrub)balljoints and unit bearings. They also have better clearance and less chance of rubbing other components when turning tight(like the swaybar). THey have less road noise compared to their wider counterparts, they also under most circumstances have much better traction, especially in wet/snowy conditions. Lower rotational mass means better gas mileage and power that's transmitted to the road. Much easier to balance and keep balanced.

If your looking at a BFG AT KO in a 33" tire, the 10.5" wide is going to be literally superior in everyway compared to the 12.5" wide counterpart.

I will never run a 12.5" wide tire on a TJ/LJ, and would never recommend one either. The only downside to a 10.5" wide tire is the fact that not too many companies offer their 33's and 35's in a 10.5" wide version. BFG and Interco are basically the only 2 that do. Which just happens to be the 2 tires I run.

UnlimitedRubicon 07-13-2013 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by JakeBreen (Post 3958676)
Wanting some honest opinions on the bfg T/A ko


I ran a couple of sets on my truck. They wore like iron. They collected small rocks and threw them at my paint. The sidewalls weren't as tough as I would've liked (cut one down). I switched to Goodyear MT/Rs and will never go back.



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Originally Posted by JakeBreen (Post 3958728)
I usually always run a 12.5 and never had a problem


get the 12.5s

WVU Mountainman 07-13-2013 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by JakeBreen (Post 3958716)
Where in WV do you live?

Parkersburg

WVU Mountainman 07-13-2013 07:03 PM

Ill try airing them up. I've been in some scary situations at 30 PSI in the mud sliding backwards off hills

NJO 07-13-2013 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by WVU Mountainman (Post 3958835)
Ill try airing them up. I've been in some scary situations at 30 PSI in the mud sliding backwards off hills

In mud on those tires(assuming 33x15x10.5)you should be airing up to between 45-50psi for best traction, basically double what you would normally be running on road.

speedyrev 07-13-2013 07:26 PM

I looked at them, then went with Duratracs.
Do a search for tire pressure chalk test. That will give you proper psi for street.

All Terrain JK 07-13-2013 07:31 PM

I wouldn't say 10.5 tires are always superior to 12.5s. Examples being loose terrain such as sand, gravel, pea stone, etc. In these situations floatation is important.

Los57 07-13-2013 09:48 PM

I'm happy with my BFG KO's. I went with the 33x10.5x15 and love them. There's a little power and gas mileage loss but not as much as I expected. Hardly any road noise.

JeepersDave 07-14-2013 01:24 AM

I've had the 32" KO's for at least 6 years on the same set. They do wear like iron and have never let me down. I've taken mine through just about every possible hazard, including high clay content mud and they've always pulled through.

They are very quiet on pavement, yet very versatile without airing up or down. I do agree that airing up for mud is very helpful, just as airing down is out on dry trails. I swear by the KO's, and run BFG products on all my vehicles.

geoffmarton 07-14-2013 01:32 AM

Consider the Firestone Destination A/T as well.

Los57 07-14-2013 02:22 AM

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Originally Posted by geoffmarton (Post 3959899)
Consider the Firestone Destination A/T as well.

I'd second that. I ran those before my BFG's. Good tire, quiet, worked well in mud.

NJO 07-14-2013 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by All Terrain TJ (Post 3958906)
I wouldn't say 10.5 tires are always superior to 12.5s. Examples being loose terrain such as sand, gravel, pea stone, etc. In these situations floatation is important.

Not always, but the majority of the time they are, and as listed have a lot of other advantages and benefits as far as ride quality, fitment and wear and tear go towards other components on a TJ.

NC Bear 07-14-2013 02:51 PM

TA/KO : I put over 60K on my old TRD Tacoma and tread depth was still 8/32 when I sold the truck.
I am also running TA/KO's on my Jeep and am equally impressed.

I run at 28 PSI and they do well in the rocks and mud for me, arguably I try to avoid mud as much as I can, not due to the tires, but the clean up afterwards.:dance:

flipmeover 07-14-2013 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by geoffmarton (Post 3959899)
Consider the Firestone Destination A/T as well.

I'm looking at the Destination A/T's right now. I've seen a lot of comments and pics of the BFGs, Nittos, and Duratracs, but not as much about the Firestone. Does anyone have pics with the Destination A/Ts?

The Destination A/Ts are a lot cheaper than the other three I'm looking at. I'm definitely concerned about on-road/rain performance (since I live in central FL), but want moderate to good off road performance as well. The Firestone by my house is offering them for ~$160 per tire for 33/12.50R15s. Think I should grab them for that price?

Also, the consensus seems to be 10.5s over of 12.5s? I like the wider/more aggressive look of 12.5s, could I get that with a wheel with less backspacing? Thanks.

NJO 07-14-2013 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by flipmeover (Post 3961408)
I'm looking at the Destination A/T's right now. I've seen a lot of comments and pics of the BFGs, Nittos, and Duratracs, but not as much about the Firestone. Does anyone have pics with the Destination A/Ts?

The Destination A/Ts are a lot cheaper than the other three I'm looking at. I'm definitely concerned about on-road/rain performance (since I live in central FL), but want moderate to good off road performance as well. The Firestone by my house is offering them for ~$160 per tire for 33/12.50R15s. Think I should grab them for that price?

Also, the consensus seems to be 10.5s over of 12.5s? I like the wider/more aggressive look of 12.5s, could I get that with a wheel with less backspacing? Thanks.

Destination AT's might be cheaper up front, but in the long run you will probably spend more.

The BFG AT KO's are not only reasonably priced up front, but its a known tire that will last you 75-100k plus.........quite a few people have been known to get near 120k out of them. In the big picture they actually are the cheapest due to the low wear characteristics.

As for "looks" 12.5" might look more aggressive from the front or rear(And this is highly debatable obviously), but from the side your not going to tell the difference.

Here is a pic of 33x10.5's from the front. IMO they look 100% correct on a Jeep Wrangler and look plenty "aggressive". Beyond that though, they just have too many advantages day to day over the 12.5" versions.

All Terrain JK 07-14-2013 05:27 PM

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I like my 12.5s. Not debating, just my personal opinion. To each his own. :)

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JakeBreen 07-14-2013 10:02 PM

God of Jeeps right there ^ haha

flipmeover 07-14-2013 10:53 PM

Man you guys have some mean looking rigs. Mine looks like a sweet virgin princess comparatively :)

I definitely like the look of the 12.5s better (looks like a bulldozer), but I'm starting to see NJOs way of thinking. Between the worse gas milage, mud/rock spray off the tires, road noise, the rubbing potential, and price the 10.5s are starting to win out in my book.

If you trust tirerack.com's survey system, the destination A/Ts are actually rated over the BFG KOs in most of the categories, but they don't make them in 10.5s. Decisions, decisions...

Damn, buying tires is a lot more difficult on the Jeep than it was on my Mazda.

JakeBreen 07-14-2013 11:06 PM

I don't know guys, but I just bought the BFG t/a Ko alt, and I love 'em. Hardly any noise, and with a wheel with 3.5 backspacing, they don't rub at all. It's all on how you drive, and your personal opinion when it comes to tires

00silverTJ 07-14-2013 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by flipmeover (Post 3962696)

Damn, buying tires is a lot more difficult on the Jeep than it was on my Mazda.

When I rebuilt my rig tires were by far the most difficult item to decide upon. I really do not ever want to research anything like that again if I am not getting paid for it.


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