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Theellusionist 07-14-2013 05:57 PM

Zone 4.25 lif
 
I'm looking into buying the Zone 4.25" lift and i was wondering if there is anything else I'll need for it besides the 1" motor mount lift that comes with it? I'm getting quick disconnects with it, and a track bar. I do moderate wheeling in the desert, nothing too major.

My other question is would I need to adjust the transfer case, seeing as it is bolted to the skid plate, which is bolted to the frame?

EDIT: I have an 06 lj running 33s

Dextreme 07-14-2013 07:38 PM

If you have a manually tranny, you might need to replace the shift boot with pleather one (if you have the rubber accordian one now). It will make shifting into 2nd and 4th easier.

You should not have to lower the xfercase, but if you have slight driveline vibes, then just install a few washers between the skidplate and frame.

Also after the install, your steering wheel will be upside down. So you just have to adjust the draglink to re-center the steering wheel...takes about 5mins to do.

Theellusionist 07-14-2013 08:27 PM

sweet, thanks so much. will i have to get an alignment after i do the lift?

NJO 07-14-2013 09:04 PM

Why a 4.25" lift for 33"s? Why a zone lift on an LJ?

Dextreme 07-14-2013 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by NJO (Post 3962204)
Why a 4.25" lift for 33"s? Why a zone lift on an LJ?

OMG..not this again. LOL ;)

Dextreme 07-14-2013 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Theellusionist (Post 3962066)
sweet, thanks so much. will i have to get an alignment after i do the lift?

Yes, but its is very easy to do yourself. No fancy equipment needed.

Missoulatj 07-14-2013 11:30 PM

You will need either cam bolts for your lower control arms to get caster closer to where it should be or (better option) adjustable lower control arms.

I have the same lift on my 06 LJ with 33s I did not need to drop the TC

Theellusionist 07-14-2013 11:44 PM

I've got access to any tools I need. So what will i need and what is the process?

Owen_TJ 07-15-2013 12:00 AM

Spray all your bolts with pb blaster or liquid wrench for like a week before you start the install...

Dextreme 07-15-2013 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Theellusionist (Post 3962935)
I've got access to any tools I need. So what will i need and what is the process?


Read through the instructions a few times to get familiar with what you will be up against. :thumb:

http://4x4media.info/instructions/zon/J1425.pdf

JeepandMud 07-15-2013 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Dextreme (Post 3962226)
OMG..not this again. LOL ;)

He did this in another thread as well. Don't start him on it. It's why I stopped posting.

To the OP, like others have said, make sure you PB the joints and bolts a lot. I've heard anywhere from a few days to a couple weeks. I'm sure you'll enjoy it. I know I have loved it. Handles well off roading and there isn't a lot you will need to do. Because remember, it's a 3 inch with a 1.25 body. Mine's an automatic and I didn't need to do really anything else. I opted for the tummy tuck, but it's something I wanted. We want to see picks when you get it done :).

Water Dog 07-15-2013 03:33 PM

I helped J4J put one in about a month ago. The one thing he decided to add to the kit after we installed it was a Novak tc shift cable. It is not absolutely needed, but it is a nice addition, works really well, and eliminates the need for the linkage brackets. He has been very satisfied with the lift kit.

NJO 07-15-2013 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by JeepandMud (Post 3964651)
He did this in another thread as well. Don't start him on it. It's why I stopped posting.

Not everyone has a "college kid" budget or drives around in a $3000 early model TJ.

The OP has an 06 LJ, which probably has a value of around $15k.

I asked the OP why he is looking into a 4.25" lift when he is only going to run 33" tires. He doesn't necessarily need that much lift to run that size tire.

I also asked him why he is looking at Zone. Is his budget that constrained? A $400 lift on a $15k LJ doesn't exactly make the most sense, especially when there is a lot better out there for not much more money.

hondamxer 07-15-2013 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by NJO (Post 3965352)
Not everyone has a "college kid" budget or drives around in a $3000 early model TJ.

The OP has an 06 LJ, which probably has a value of around $15k.

I asked the OP why he is looking into a 4.25" lift when he is only going to run 33" tires. He doesn't necessarily need that much lift to run that size tire.

I also asked him why he is looking at Zone. Is his budget that constrained? A $400 lift on a $15k LJ doesn't exactly make the most sense, especially when there is a lot better out there for not much more money.

This kit is proven to work well with 33s and is great value for the money. Of course there is tons of kits out there that would work better than this, but go blow tons on an expensive kit if this is all he needs?

NJO 07-15-2013 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by hondamxer (Post 3965603)
This kit is proven to work well with 33s and is great value for the money. Of course there is tons of kits out there that would work better than this, but go blow tons on an expensive kit if this is all he needs?

The "kit" really isn't a great value in that you can buy all the components separately and not spend much more money. By buying the components separately the OP can get springs, shocks and accessories based on his needs.

Granted if there is one Zone kit that makes the most sense its this one, but mix n matching for a specific user is always the best way to go. The "one kit fits all" mentality is backwards thinking.

Dextreme 07-15-2013 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NJO (Post 3965352)
The OP has an 06 LJ, which probably has a value of around $15k.

Not sure why the vehicle value even matters in lift choice....Whether you spend $500 or $3000 on lift, it is still going to be a $15K LJ in the end. :cool:

Missoulatj 07-15-2013 10:22 PM

I am very happy with my zone lift, however if I was going to do it again I would purchase parts separately to create my own "kit"

NJO 07-15-2013 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dextreme (Post 3966301)
Not sure why the vehicle value even matters in lift choice....Whether you spend $500 or $3000 on lift, it is still going to be a $15K LJ in the end. :cool:

Would you invest a $3k lift on to a vehicle with little value(Say less value than the expense of the lift kit itself)? I sure wouldn't.

Dextreme 07-16-2013 12:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NJO (Post 3966914)
Would you invest a $3k lift on to a vehicle with little value(Say less value than the expense of the lift kit itself)? I sure wouldn't.

People actually do it all the time...buy a "Salvage Titled" TJ for cheap then turn it into trail only rig. $10,000+ into axles, $5000+ into the motor, $4000 into the Suspension, coilovers, and steering. Then you got custom cage, exhaust, tires, beadlock, armor, etc, etc. :thumb:

NJO 07-16-2013 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dextreme (Post 3967121)
People actually do it all the time...buy a "Salvage Titled" TJ for cheap then turn it into trail only rig. $10,000+ into axles, $5000+ into the motor, $4000 into the Suspension, coilovers, and steering. Then you got custom cage, exhaust, tires, beadlock, armor, etc, etc. :thumb:

Completely different idea altogether. The Salvage vehicle ends up being a dedicated "toy", not a typical DP vehicle like what 99.99% of the people do.

And when they do get a salvage vehicle Im sure the donor meets some minimal criteria.

My last post pertained to the kids who buy a cheap DD TJ on its last legs......rusted out, banged up, tons of miles, etc..........a vehicle not worth putting much money into.........I see plenty daily online and locally.

justin-branam 07-16-2013 10:46 AM

To the OP: I have a 2005 LJ, with 33's, and I went with the ZONE 4.25" kit myself. I could care less what other people say about it, because it works great for me. I've been told there are "better" kits by people for not much more money, but funny how none of them wanted to cough up the extra money for me, haha! All in all, I love the kit, and it does everything I need it to, so I didn't spend any money I didn't need to.

To answer your question, I did not need anything extra (mine is an automatic). The toughest thing was getting the old shocks off. The nuts were rusted on, so I actually had to cut the front ones off, and I broke off one bolt in the frame on one of the rear shocks, so I just drilled a new hole and used a nut on the backside. So like others said. PB Blast the hell out of it for a few days in a row before you go to town. And read through the instructions, and kind of get your game plan and tool list together before you start. I did mine in about 14 hours start to finish (2 of those hours were spent removing the old shocks).

txstj 07-16-2013 01:22 PM

I've had good experience with my Zone 4.25" kit and my wifes 3" JK kit so I say go for it if it's what you're looking for. Why piece meal it if you can get everything for cheaper anyways when buying as a kit?

Don't let someone else try to convince you their opinion is a fact.

Good luck OP

hondamxer 07-16-2013 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by justin-branam (Post 3968029)
To the OP: I have a 2005 LJ, with 33's, and I went with the ZONE 4.25" kit myself. I could care less what other people say about it, because it works great for me. I've been told there are "better" kits by people for not much more money, but funny how none of them wanted to cough up the extra money for me, haha! All in all, I love the kit, and it does everything I need it to, so I didn't spend any money I didn't need to.

This pretty much sums it up. Which is why its the kit that im going to be getting myself. If its all your gonna need why spend more money??:confused:

Colin 07-16-2013 09:47 PM

Almost 30K and 2 years on my DD tj with a Zone 3 inch lift and no problems.


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