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Billdog169 07-18-2013 07:10 PM

Heatin up
 
Goin down the highway my jeep heats up past 210. All the fluids are good. Is there away i can keep it closer to 210?

Water Dog 07-18-2013 07:20 PM

Don't think that's a problem. Mine usually runs half way between 210 and the next mark at freeway speeds in hot weather, and I've never had a problem with it boiling over. You have to remember that your cooling system is under pressure, and the higher the pressure, the higher the boiling point of water. Take a look at your gauge and notice where the "hot" (red) section is.

OhSixTJ 07-18-2013 07:21 PM

Tons of posts on this but I'll entertain you. How far passed 210 does it go?

jeeptjrider 07-18-2013 07:34 PM

Do u have a fan shroud on it?

Billdog169 07-19-2013 07:41 PM

It doesn't go past 210 to far. I just didn't know if it was gonna hurt it. And yes i got a fan shourd on it

OhSixTJ 07-19-2013 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Billdog169 (Post 3981837)
It doesn't go past 210 to far. I just didn't know if it was gonna hurt it. And yes i got a fan shourd on it

Mine usually sits between the 1 and 0 in 210

Billdog169 07-19-2013 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by OhSixTJ (Post 3982088)

Mine usually sits between the 1 and 0 in 210

Mine goes past that. Like a quater of the way to the red

UnlimitedLJ04 07-19-2013 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Billdog169 (Post 3981837)
It doesn't go past 210 to far. I just didn't know if it was gonna hurt it. And yes i got a fan shourd on it

problem is you can't tell crap from the gauge.

plug in a OBDII tool and monitor the real temp off the ECU, then report back exactly what those temps are.

Billdog169 07-20-2013 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by UnlimitedLJ04 (Post 3982646)
problem is you can't tell crap from the gauge.

plug in a OBDII tool and monitor the real temp off the ECU, then report back exactly what those temps are.

Where do i get one of those at?

capsfan2013 07-20-2013 02:26 PM

Not unusual. Drove up to Central New Jersey between 65 and 70 mph and was above it for a bit. Its about 95 degrees here in Maryland with a head index hovering around 105 - 109 degrees. Just gotta make sure it doesn't go to much higher and don't try to over exert your engine. Otherwise, should be fine.

OhSixTJ 07-20-2013 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Billdog169 (Post 3984155)

Where do i get one of those at?

Amazon. Look for an obd 2 adapter and use the torque app on an android phone. Total cost if you already have the phone is $15

Billdog169 07-20-2013 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by OhSixTJ (Post 3985623)

Amazon. Look for an obd 2 adapter and use the torque app on an android phone. Total cost if you already have the phone is $15

I have an iphone

OhSixTJ 07-21-2013 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Billdog169 (Post 3985667)

I have an iphone

Pawn shop! Haha nah then that scangauge is probably a better option. Although pricier ~$120.

Kevin-jeep 07-22-2013 04:07 AM

ODB2 scangauge (under $95 on eBay) also,
other ODB2 Scanner under $50.

Neil F. 07-22-2013 06:50 AM

Don't go by the dash gauge. I have a scanguage and mine normally runs at 197 under normal driving and will go to 215 or so in hot conditions on the highway. The dash gauge has pretty much agreeded however a couple weeks ago, I saw that it was way off as it got hotter. I was really blasting down the highway at 80 (and +) in 95 degree heat on a road trip and in the hills the temp on the scangaue read up to 230 at times. The dash gauge did not budge past much beyond the 210 mark

Derp 07-22-2013 11:32 AM

I run a mechanical water temp gauge off the return hose and usually run between 200-210 on the street. Offroad I usually don't break 220. I would recommend switching thermostats to the next lowest available, that is what I will be doing next, then also doing an e fan with 3 speeds and aluminum radiator.

Neil F. 07-22-2013 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Derp (Post 3989812)
I would recommend switching thermostats to the next lowest available,

A lower temp thermostat is not going to keep it cooler. The thermostat only set the lower limit. The stock thermostat is fully open at 195. Above that is dependent on how much heat your motor generates and how efficent the cooling system is.



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Originally Posted by Derp (Post 3989812)
then also doing an e fan with 3 speeds and aluminum radiator.

3 speeds? If you mean manual settings, that is not the best way to regulate. You want a good controller which will work across a setpoint.

Derp 07-22-2013 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Neil F. (Post 3989871)

A lower temp thermostat is not going to keep it cooler. The thermostat only set the lower limit. The stock thermostat is fully open at 195. Above that is dependent on how much heat your motor generates and how efficent the cooling system is.

3 speeds? If you mean manual settings, that is not the best way to regulate. You want a good controller which will work across a setpoint.

that t stat will cause the t stat to open up earlier and it will run cooler. I lowered the one in my challenger from a 195 to a 180 and it runs at 195 when warm. The motor will typically operate 15-20 degrees hotter than the tstat setting.

You're missing the point on my fan. It will have an auto setting but when I'm out I frequent water crossings so it IS the best way for me. Will have off, auto, and a high low setting that I can leave on for as long as I want when the jeep is off. I pre run and go to the desert as well and leaving the fan running at all times is a must.

Edit: though I have heard talk of a cooler t stat not working well in the 4.0 I'll have to look more into this.

OhSixTJ 07-22-2013 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Derp (Post 3989917)
Will have off, auto, and a high low setting that I can leave on for as long as I want when the jeep is off.

I have never understood why people want to leave the fan on while the engine is off. I've seen sport bike riders do this too. If the engine isn't on, the pump isn't pumping, therefore the coolant isn't circulating. So you're really wasting your time. You'd cool the engine off faster by just lifting the hood.

Derp 07-22-2013 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by OhSixTJ (Post 3990096)

I have never understood why people want to leave the fan on while the engine is off. I've seen sport bike riders do this too. If the engine isn't on, the pump isn't pumping, therefore the coolant isn't circulating. So you're really wasting your time. You'd cool the engine off faster by just lifting the hood.

I lift the hood too, you underestimate the power of air circulation as well as the role of any fan cooling a 4.0

OhSixTJ 07-22-2013 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Derp (Post 3990117)

I lift the hood too, you underestimate the power of air circulation as well as the role of any fan cooling a 4.0

You're talking about the engine being off, right?

Neil F. 07-22-2013 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Derp (Post 3989917)
that t stat will cause the t stat to open up earlier and it will run cooler. I lowered the one in my challenger from a 195 to a 180 and it runs at 195 when warm. The motor will typically operate 15-20 degrees hotter than the tstat setting.

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Yes it will open up earlier, but it is not going to stay any cooler. If with a 195, the engine get up to 210 beyond, how is stay cooler with a 180? It MAY run cooler when the ambient air is cooler but in hot conditions, it's going to do nothing for you.

Believe me I've played ther thermostat games with my modified 89 Mustang that I have owned since new. Cooler thermostant does not equal it ultimaetly running cooler (and I have a massive aluminum radiator). The solution was a Mark VIII fand and DCC controller.

98tjteen 07-22-2013 03:13 PM

I just changed my thermostat and now I run at 180

Curtis97Tj 07-22-2013 08:46 PM

T-STATS do not regulate Temp of coolant. Jeep is designed and when operating proper 210 to even 220 is completely normal. A 195 T-stat is what is designed to be in the jeep. If your running hot and doesn't hold at max 220 then you have a mechanical issu

Curtis97Tj 07-22-2013 08:54 PM

Issue or you dont have correct mix of antifreeze / water. The T -stat. Simply BEGINS to open at whatever temp its set at. Entire system working proper PLUS proper flow of coolant and sufficient air being pulled threw the radiator is what cools. Better coolant flow and fan pulling air threw equals efficient cooling. A 180 T-stat will eventually force computer into enriched mode making the motor run poorly.


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