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Idapopo3 07-20-2013 10:20 AM

Towing help needed
 
I just bought a 2012 JK Moab edition. It came with pretty much everything already. I want to tow it behind my motor home but I don't want to weld new brackets to the bumper. Does anyone know of a company that sells a tow bar that I can attach to my existing tow hook plates. The bumper is an after market heavy duty bumper.

Thanks,
Bob

connochr 07-20-2013 10:29 AM

What is the weight of your motor home? I believe the JK max tow capacity is like 3000 pounds.

Idapopo3 07-20-2013 11:08 AM

Ok I am very green and a newby, but what does the weight of my motor home have to do with it? I know I can tow a jeep behind my class A motor home. I am new to this so any advice will help

abqtj 07-20-2013 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by connochr (Post 3983778)
What is the weight of your motor home? I believe the JK max tow capacity is like 3000 pounds.

I don't think he's trying to pull a motor home with the jeep but its the other way around.

americonium 07-20-2013 01:57 PM

Picture of your bumper might help.

Idapopo3 07-20-2013 05:36 PM

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Ivan M 07-20-2013 06:18 PM

Would it be possible for you to rent one of those UHAUL things where your jeeps front tires are on it and the rears on the road? I have seen many motor homes pulling their cars this way, just a thought.

Mcrock 07-20-2013 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Ivan M (Post 3984895)
Would it be possible for you to rent one of those UHAUL things where your jeeps front tires are on it and the rears on the road? I have seen many motor homes pulling their cars this way, just a thought.

I believe jeeps need to be all four on the road. I could be wrong

connochr 07-20-2013 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by abqtj (Post 3984232)
I don't think he's trying to pull a motor home with the jeep but its the other way around.

My mistake, :facepalm: thought he was looking to pull the motor home with the Jeep. Thought that might be a BAD idea. Makes more sense the other way around.

connochr 07-20-2013 06:37 PM

There are several "adjustable" tow bars on the market. I haven't seen one without mounting plates for the bumper. I suppose if you can't find one to match up to your bumpers tow hook plates you could purchase an adjustable one and have the ends modified at a metal welding shop to match up to your bumper. Shop by me charges $75 an hour to weld up anything you want. Couldn't be more than an hour worth of work. Unless someone knows of a tow bar for that specific bumper.

Ruby Tuesday 07-20-2013 06:37 PM

There are tow bars that will mount to your existing d ring tabs

JayHawker45 07-20-2013 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Idapopo3 (Post 3984793)

Check with the bumper manufacturer, they may have a recommendation for you.

Idapopo3 07-20-2013 11:01 PM

Thanks everyone for your help

Bangert 07-20-2013 11:06 PM

Do not tow with a dolly. Jeeps are meant to be flat towed only. There are bars that bolt under your frame. Do a search for it.

BusManRG 07-20-2013 11:31 PM

FIRST....Your jeep MUST be towed 4 down or 4 up. Next, talk to your local jeep dealer or RV dealer. We will be in the same situation soon and know that products are out there. We are fortunate enough to have a jeep salesman that is also an RV'er. Or you could just check out Roadmaster or Blue Ox and see what you could purchase directly from them.

jkjeeper06 07-21-2013 07:22 AM

There is 1 way to safely dolly tow a jeep and you cannot possibly damage it. You just have to remove the rear driveshaft. It can be a pain but its not too bad if a dolly is the only option. All you need is 1 wrench

Ivan M 07-21-2013 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by jkjeeper06 (Post 3986248)
There is 1 way to safely dolly tow a jeep and you cannot possibly damage it. You just have to remove the rear driveshaft. It can be a pain but its not too bad if a dolly is the only option. All you need is 1 wrench

Thats what i thought myself because i have seen them being towed dolly style. Its awesome to have info from all here that know jeeps. Thats why i love this forum. Have a blessed Sunday all.

jkjeeper06 07-21-2013 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Ivan M (Post 3986277)

Thats what i thought myself because i have seen them being towed dolly style. Its awesome to have info from all here that know jeeps. Thats why i love this forum. Have a blessed Sunday all.

Yup. You don't even have to fully detach it. Just unbolt the side on the differential and strap it to the frame. It won't spin and it'll stay in place

Off Pavement 07-21-2013 11:57 AM

Oops... duplicate post

Off Pavement 07-21-2013 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Idapopo3 (Post 3983760)
I just bought a 2012 JK Moab edition. It came with pretty much everything already. I want to tow it behind my motor home but I don't want to weld new brackets to the bumper. Does anyone know of a company that sells a tow bar that I can attach to my existing tow hook plates. The bumper is an after market heavy duty bumper.

Thanks,
Bob

First thing you need to do is determine the type of tow bar you want to use. There are fixed arm bars that are quite inexpensive. The two drawbacks are: The difficulty they present of hitching to the motor home easily, especially if you try and do it without a spotter, and most folks want the tow bar removed from their towed vehicle instead of having the folded towbar sticking up in your field of view which BTW is illegal in some states.

An adjustable arm tow bar is much easier to hitch up, and they stay on your motorhome so no storage issues as with a fixed arm. The drawbacks are they require some maintenance, and they are quite expensive.

Either way however, there are tow bar adapters to work with your shackle brackets. The photo below are the ones I use with my Metalcloak bumper and they are made by Blue OX. Blue Ox, Warrior Products, and Reese make a different design as well, but they all do the same thing... allow a standard tow bar to use the D-ring shackle brackets for the mount point.

I recommend the CooltecLLC.com wiring harness for JKs. It is a simple plug into the existing wiring harness design, and you won't need diodes or anything else for simple turn. brake and running lamps when you tow.

I believe every towed vehicle should have a supplemental brake system. Many folks don't feel the need. If you fall into that category, check your RV manufacturers towing specs. Many RVs specify supplemental brakes for anything being towed over 3500 lbs, even though the hitch has a 5K rating.

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One more important tidbit... no matter what type of tow bar you use, it needs to be as level as possible. There are up/down hitch adapters available from 2 to 10" so getting it level should not be a big problem.

Now the really bad news... It's not cheap to set this all up. I DIYed the job, hunted for deals, and spent right at a thousand bucks to set up my '13 JK. If you have it done, plan on at least another grand, and more likely $1500.

Before you fully decided whether you need a supplemental brake system or not, I encourage you to read this... The Physics of Towed Vehicles.

Here is a link to a review with pictures I wrote on the supplemental brake system I chose... US Gear Unified Tow Brake (UTB) Review

Idapopo3 07-21-2013 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Off Pavement (Post 3986822)

First thing you need to do is determine the type of tow bar you want to use. There are fixed arm bars that are quite inexpensive. The two drawbacks are: The difficulty they present of hitching to the motor home easily, especially if you try and do it without a spotter, and most folks want the tow bar removed from their towed vehicle instead of having the folded towbar sticking up in your field of view which BTW is illegal in some states.

An adjustable arm tow bar is much easier to hitch up, and they stay on your motorhome so no storage issues as with a fixed arm. The drawbacks are they require some maintenance, and they are quite expensive.

Either way however, there are tow bar adapters to work with your shackle brackets. The photo below are the ones I use with my Metalcloak bumper and they are made by Blue OX. Blue Ox, Warrior Products, and Reese make a different design as well, but they all do the same thing... allow a standard tow bar to use the D-ring shackle brackets for the mount point.

I recommend the CooltecLLC.com wiring harness for JKs. It is a simple plug into the existing wiring harness design, and you won't need diodes or anything else for simple turn. brake and running lamps when you tow.

I believe every towed vehicle should have a supplemental brake system. Many folks don't feel the need. If you fall into that category, check your RV manufacturers towing specs. Many RVs specify supplemental brakes for anything being towed over 3500 lbs, even though the hitch has a 5K rating.

One more important tidbit... no matter what type of tow bar you use, it needs to be as level as possible. There are up/down hitch adapters available from 2 to 10" so getting it level should not be a big problem.

Now the really bad news... It's not cheap to set this all up. I DIYed the job, hunted for deals, and spent right at a thousand bucks to set up my '13 JK. If you have it done, plan on at least another grand, and more likely $1500.

Before you fully decided whether you need a supplemental brake system or not, I encourage you to read this... The Physics of Towed Vehicles.

Here is a link to a review with pictures I wrote on the supplemental brake system I chose... US Gear Unified Tow Brake (UTB) Review

Thank you... That is exactly what I was fishing for when I posted this thread. I love this forum and all of the expert advice on it...

Thanks again


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