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ChaiseYJ 07-20-2013 03:08 PM

My yj disaster
 
I just bought a 93 yj for an offroad fun vehicle and I'm in a bit of a situation. First off I'm 17 and I don't have any mechanical knowledge. So I don't know what I'm looking at but I know basic stuff. First, the thing wobbles and the whole vehicle shakes like its gonna bust once you go past like 35-40 mph. It's got 33s with an unknown lift. The rear leaf springs are pretty flat and there's a box like thing on both sides witch I belief is the lift. Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought they're supposed to be above the leaf spring and they're on the bottom which completely kills my clearance. Also it rides so rough I feel like there's no suspension whatsoever. Oh and it's missing a rear shock fml.
It's got the front and rear air locker differential. Idk where to start with this thing and I really need some help. Thanks guys

shoepick 07-20-2013 03:35 PM

Post up some picks of the lift so we can get a better idea of what you are dealing with.

ChaiseYJ 07-20-2013 03:57 PM

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AllMudd 07-20-2013 04:16 PM

Those block are useless. Looks like they were used because someone didn't know you could cut the ubolts. Remove them and cut the ubolts to length. If you need new ones I have mine still from when I replaced my axle. Also take a few good pics if the TC and rear drive shaft so we can see the angle if it. Also the shackles, front and rear. The hose that's hanging down by the missing shock is supposed to be attached to the top I the rear axle housing on the rear brake line T fitting. And the rear shock that's going to need someone o weld a new stud at the top so you can attach a new one. Also check to see if the track bars are still on the front and rear axles. All they do is attach to the frame on one end and to the axle on the other. If they are still there, they are not really needed and do improve ride quality.
Start here and we'll help you get this thing figured out.

1st87yj 07-20-2013 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by ChaiseYJ (Post 3984524)

Theres more than one way to skin a cat...that aint one of em. Sorry bud but those blocks gotta go. Dosent take much to do it, take 4 nuts off bottom, remove U-bolt and block. Cut U-bolt to length (hacksaw). Reinstall!

reno92 07-20-2013 04:33 PM

Yes the blocks are stupid & useless, but if you look at the ubolts it appears the threads don't go high enough to bolt things down, you need the right ubolts. Your shaking could be from the tires if they are worn uneven, or you could need to tighten up the front end with new bushings. Raise the front off the ground and see if there is a lot of play top and bottom and side to side.

Jeeptrd 07-20-2013 05:00 PM

More pics! Are there any shocks at all? How does she run other than the shake? Just curious oh and careful welding around those lines for your shock mount!

ChaiseYJ 07-20-2013 05:41 PM

I'll be able to put more pics up tomorrow but a quick question If I take the blocks off will it loosen the leaf springs and give an easier ride

1st87yj 07-20-2013 05:54 PM

Wont make a smother ride no. But they gotta go for clearance reasons, but u kn ow that

indirocz28 07-20-2013 06:07 PM

Looks like they put lift springs on the front, and kept stock springs in the rear, thinking " hey, I'll throw some blocks in there and call it good".

I hope you don't have much in it. Plan on spending a bit of $ to fix stuff the right way.

If you have any questions, this is a great forum to ask.

robmcbee 07-20-2013 07:42 PM

wow.... and I thought my P.O. had no idea what he was doing.... with that setup those blocks are useless and providing NO lift... Unfortunate for us as used jeep owners this is the kind of thing we run into. Good luck and the only way to learn is to ask questions and get your hands dirty.

indirocz28 07-20-2013 08:04 PM

Aaaannnnd thats why I bought a stock one. Lol!!

ChaiseYJ 07-20-2013 10:28 PM

So I'm thinking this is what I do. Get a wheel balance to see if that will help I definitely need new shocks. But idk what I have to buy. Can I buy just the shocks . Do u guys have any recommendations cheap. Maybe I should get new leaf springs but my biggest concern right now is there sever death wobble

1st87yj 07-20-2013 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ChaiseYJ (Post 3985596)
So I'm thinking this is what I do. Get a wheel balance to see if that will help I definitely need new shocks. But idk what I have to buy. Can I buy just the shocks . Do u guys have any recommendations cheap. Maybe I should get new leaf springs but my biggest concern right now is there sever death wobble

Have a shop ck front end parts, tires and bslance. Does it have a steering stabilizer shock?

ChaiseYJ 07-20-2013 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by 1st87yj (Post 3985639)

Have a shop ck front end parts, tires and bslance. Does it have a steering stabilizer shock?

I'm not sure what that looks like but above the front axle there's a shock that's on a diagonal \

1st87yj 07-20-2013 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ChaiseYJ (Post 3985647)

I'm not sure what that looks like but above the front axle there's a shock that's on a diagonal \

Yup that's it. Not sure if its good or not but have that front end checked. And remove those trac bars like Allmud said....way better ride.

petercass88 07-20-2013 11:22 PM

check out this video, I get death wobble when i hit a pothole on only 1 side of the vehicle and this video certainly is informative on what to look for to correct the issue. It isnt the holy grail but it is good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVJx8buTE8I

POS YJ 07-20-2013 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by 1st87yj (Post 3984615)
Theres more than one way to skin a cat...that aint one of em. Sorry bud but those blocks gotta go. Dosent take much to do it, take 4 nuts off bottom, remove U-bolt and block. Cut U-bolt to length (hacksaw). Reinstall!

Except there aren't enough threads on the u-bolt to do that. You need new u-bolts and make sure those are the right spring plates.

For the death wobble, check all of your tie rod and drag link ends. A steering stabilizer or shock will not fix your problem.

indirocz28 07-21-2013 01:05 AM

You can buy new U bolts at almost any auto parts store.

But if those front springs are lift springs, and the rears are stock, well, then you're going to be sitting funny and un drivable.

ChaiseYJ 07-21-2013 04:17 PM

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RednekYJ 07-21-2013 04:32 PM

Steering stabilizer is not correct. It should be parallel with the tie rod. You have more than a few issues there. Get some new u bolts, and fix that stabilizer. Look for play in the front end by having someone cycle the steering while you are watching it. Also jack up the front and try to wiggle the tire at top and bottom and left and right. Play at 3&9 indicates worn tierod ends. 12&6 would be ball joints.

RednekYJ 07-21-2013 04:48 PM

Looks like the stabilizer is boltet to the axle where the front track bar should be. This is how it should be

http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w...ps68e013d1.jpg

robmcbee 07-22-2013 07:59 AM

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Yeah.... that's just wrong :facepalm:

OverkillYJ 07-22-2013 08:08 AM

You are missing your swaybar. You also have your rear trackbar in which will make it ride pretty rough in the rear. Your breather hose for the axle also looks like it is hanging.

That swaybar has a lot to do with it I bet. You can drive without one, but it depends on what type of lift you have. I cant for example unless I am going a short distance. Otherwise when I hit a big pothole I have to hang on a correct it quick. If your springs are soft and you have no swaybar it will feel like you are going to lose control over 40mph.

Also get that front end up off the ground and start pulling on everything. You will find if anything is loose when is starts making a knocking noise usually.

robmcbee 07-22-2013 08:17 AM

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amerdt4 07-22-2013 08:28 AM

That bracket circled in red looks like the remnants of an after market steering stabilizer(take it off) . My guess is that this was lifted at some point but brought back down for some reason . First thing get rid of those blocks and get some shorter u-bolts . The steering stabilizer is now bolted to the front track bar bracket . That needs to come out and be bolted to the hole in front of the passenger side spring perch .

ChaiseYJ 07-22-2013 09:00 AM

Can I use just plain old tools to move that steering shock or do I need the air powered tools

amerdt4 07-22-2013 09:33 AM

You "should" be able to do it by hand . Nothing a breaker bar can't take care of . If you don't have a breaker bar , a pipe on the end of a socket wrench or wrench can do the job . The only bolts I have ever NEEDED an impact gun for is the main eye bolts ,and even then I ended up cutting them . An investment of PB blaster is always a smart choice . Happy wrenching !

JeepAddOns-Chris 07-22-2013 09:51 AM

I know those rear blocks have been mentioned, but those are what concern me the most in this whole setup. Yes, the steering stabilizer is in a totally screwy location, but what's really dangerous on this rig is that rear end.

The spring packs have what is called a centering pin in the middle of them. They locate your spring pack on the perch of the axle. Then your u-bolt plate has a hole in the middle of it that the pin comes through. That box tube is just flat out dangerous. Before I touched another thing on that Jeep, I would get that fixed first.

ChaiseYJ 07-22-2013 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by JeepAddOns-Chris (Post 3989527)
I know those rear blocks have been mentioned, but those are what concern me the most in this whole setup. Yes, the steering stabilizer is in a totally screwy location, but what's really dangerous on this rig is that rear end.

The spring packs have what is called a centering pin in the middle of them. They locate your spring pack on the perch of the axle. Then your u-bolt plate has a hole in the middle of it that the pin comes through. That box tube is just flat out dangerous. Before I touched another thing on that Jeep, I would get that fixed first.

Wait so I should just take those off... Or is there more to it


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