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hcarlgolden 07-21-2013 02:46 PM

Hard top vs. Soft top - Half doors vs. Full doors
 
My 03 X came with a soft top with half doors. I would love to purchase a hard top and full doors for winter. What else would I know before I go and find some? Does my Jeep have all the required wiring for the hard top wiper and defrost or do I have to run my own wiring? What else do you think I would be missing? How hard is it to re key the door locks to match? I love my soft top and half doors in summer but would like a little more protection in winter. I am willing to save up for this mod because it is one that I would love to do to make my Jeep more all season.

jbydesign 07-21-2013 07:26 PM

No top...! No doors!

Indy900 07-21-2013 07:42 PM

Unless your winters are particularly harsh, or you're blessed with unlimited space, I would skip the hard top and just get full doors. My 2000 Sport came with full doors and a soft top. i spent some time looking at hard tops (all $700-1200 in my area) but decided to wait out the winter to see if I really thought I'd need it. Granted, the jeep is not my daily driver, but I was never cold given the great heater and the protection of the full doors.

Plus I dont need to swap and store the hard top during the summer. :)

Lanco 07-21-2013 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by jbydesign (Post 3987882)
No top...! No doors!

this.

dont sweat the hardtop till you've experienced the whole year with what you've got.

my top/doors get ripped off at the first sight of spring and stay that way till it snows. (even then sometimes i go topless)

http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w...ps625781c9.jpg

:thumb:

hcarlgolden 07-21-2013 10:34 PM

Thanks Thanks a lot guys. I asked what I would need to make the switch. I did not ask for being second guessed. You don't know what I am dealing with on a daily basis. I hope you guys never deal with the amount of pain that doctors can not control or you think of eating a bullet just to stop the pain, but don't want to leave your daughter with out a father. If thats what I wanted I would have asked my wife. Thanks for the help I thought that is what forums were for was to help each other not tearing another member down. I will find someone that does want to help instead of being made fun of or bulling. Thanks I am glad you are a man because you can deal with out a top on your Jeep in the winter. Well good for you glad you feel good.

hcarlgolden 07-21-2013 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Indy900 (Post 3987915)
Unless your winters are particularly harsh, or you're blessed with unlimited space, I would skip the hard top and just get full doors. My 2000 Sport came with full doors and a soft top. i spent some time looking at hard tops (all $700-1200 in my area) but decided to wait out the winter to see if I really thought I'd need it. Granted, the jeep is not my daily driver, but I was never cold given the great heater and the protection of the full doors.

Plus I dont need to swap and store the hard top during the summer. :)

Storage is not an issue for me. Plus I will be passing this on to my daughter.

RevCo666 07-21-2013 10:54 PM

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s14sh3r 07-21-2013 10:55 PM

Keep checking Craigslist. I use the app on my phone so I can check several cities in my area at once. SearchTempest.com will do the same thing. Hard tops run higher in my area than most, you rarely see one for less than 1200 or so. I have seen some deals, though, so they're out there. Keep checking. Same with doors. Don't be surprised if full doors are going for almost as much as hard tops. I was shocked, but that seems to be what they are going for.

I run without windows most of the year, but it would be nice to have a hard top and full doors if I take a road trip, so I wouldn't have to worry so much about some knucklehead cutting my top and/or windows to break in and steal my shit. You don't have to justify anything to anyone about why you want anything.

Check the classifieds on here, too.
Keep looking, you'll find a deal eventually.

JenyGirl 07-21-2013 10:58 PM

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I don't know about the sport, because I have the 07 4dr. I'm able to swap out for the half. I'm also able to install the hardtop even though it came with the soft top, but you will need the wiring for the back wiper. Something the dealer Could help you with. I would imagine you are able to swap out the doors as well, and add a hard top. Most of the newer jeeps are able to have various tops and doors. I would imagine they also need to be rekeyed, But if memory serves me right, and wanting to order doors myself at one point, they grab the code and when the order them they already come keyed for your particular vehicle.... I would definitely check with your dealer.

Good luck And don't let ignorance deter you

03 sahara jeeper 07-21-2013 11:32 PM

If you look on the back left of your jeep by the roll bar there should be the wire and tube for a hard top. Also there will be to switches on the bottom middle dash.

Neil F. 07-22-2013 05:22 AM

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Originally Posted by 03 sahara jeeper (Post 3988717)
If you look on the back left of your jeep by the roll bar there should be the wire and tube for a hard top. Also there will be to switches on the bottom middle dash.

That's only if the Jeep originall came as a hardtop or dual top model. Softop model do not have any of the wiring.

In order to put on a hardtop, you do not need to make any modifications. Just remove the softop at the roll bars and door surrounds. Any 97-06 top will fit. You do not HAVE to do the wiper wiring. (I did add it on my 03)

lindel 07-22-2013 07:18 AM

Soft top works great here in Chicagoland, even in winter. I've got to pick up a set of sliders for the half doors I have now, but don't anticipate any issues.

Lanco 07-22-2013 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by hcarlgolden (Post 3988497)
Thanks Thanks a lot guys. I asked what I would need to make the switch. I did not ask for being second guessed. You don't know what I am dealing with on a daily basis. I hope you guys never deal with the amount of pain that doctors can not control or you think of eating a bullet just to stop the pain, but don't want to leave your daughter with out a father. If thats what I wanted I would have asked my wife. Thanks for the help I thought that is what forums were for was to help each other not tearing another member down. I will find someone that does want to help instead of being made fun of or bulling. Thanks I am glad you are a man because you can deal with out a top on your Jeep in the winter. Well good for you glad you feel good.

I was just trying to save you some money on something you may find yourself not needing. sorry to hear about your condition. i meant no disrespect.

To your questions, yes you will need the switches and the wire harness run to the hard top. the half doors slide off and the hard doors will slide right back in their place. no other modifications need to be made.

ninjaturtle0 07-22-2013 11:21 AM

With the cost of the hard top and full doors I would recommend waiting to see how its like during the weather changes vs buying them now and regretting later.

I have hardtop and full doors and after a year of owning, I have a soft top now and looking for half doors. I love to drive topless so I just need something to cover up when the weather gets bad. The heaters are hot enough to heat up your lunch so the winters are not a big deal.

Hard top would be good for heavy snow I would think.

JenyGirl 07-22-2013 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by ninjaturtle0 (Post 3989787)
With the cost of the hard top and full doors I would recommend waiting to see how its like during the weather changes vs buying them now and regretting later.

I have hardtop and full doors and after a year of owning, I have a soft top now and looking for half doors. I love to drive topless so I just need something to cover up when the weather gets bad. The heaters are hot enough to heat up your lunch so the winters are not a big deal.

Hard top would be good for heavy snow I would think.

I agree. I have softop and full doors for 7yrs now and on the jersey shore, the seasons are crazy!! I have the full doors and find them a waste. They never come off because they are just way too cumbersome. If I could do it over, I would have purchased with half doors.

hcarlgolden 07-22-2013 06:26 PM

I apologize for last night. I have nights where I wish I was well never mind. I am planing on handing down my 03 Wrangler to my daughter someday. It has a forever warranty on the entire power train including 4 wheel drive. So I see this vehicle being in the family for a long time. For that reason I am considering purchasing some accessories for it. Storage is not an issue for us. We have a large garage that we will be adding onto sometime soon. I appreciate people trying to save me money on something they dont see worth it. I am not asking what you would do. What I am asking is what do I need to do to make it work like it was factory. I have a soft top and half doors and want to purchase hard top with full doors. What do I need to get as well? wiring?

asawhort 07-22-2013 08:01 PM

I have factory hard top, and soft top combo on my 05 with full doors. Hard top and doors are great in the winter, but i really wish I had half doors for summer. Right now just running with a bikini top and tonneau cover, half doors would be great. Hear on long island the weather is cold and hot. I say buy everything if you can. Make the Jeep fun for everyday!

Indy900 07-22-2013 10:16 PM

No worries. You will want the wiring kit to run the defroster and wiper, and the bolts to mount to the body in the back. The front uses the existing windscreen latch holes, and should be on any top you find.

Apart from that, perhaps a hoist to lift it off (unless there will be a second person around on change over day) and a rolling stand to keep it mobile and safe. I suspect, but don't know, that you can get lock tumblers to match your ignition, door and trunk keys.


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