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deanp 07-21-2013 08:51 PM

They dent their door and its my fault
 
So I'm sitting in a parking lot when this dirt bag pulls up and decides rather than open his door and get out, it would be better to shove it open at mach 3 and bang it into the side of my Jeep. Fortunately I have sliders and a 2.5" lift. Small scrape on the sliders but it completely rolls the edge of his door in the shape of the pipe from the sliders.

Now he is mad at me for damaging his vehicle. Where has respect for others property and taking ownership in your own actions gone?

WatchThis! 07-21-2013 08:57 PM

Shame on you. I think you should cut the pore guy a check for 2 grand to fix his door and make it worth his while.........

WatchThis! 07-21-2013 09:05 PM

Honestly if the guy was being a DB like this about it I would make his insurance company fix the bad spot in the slider. Even if they looked like this. Just so he has to pay his part.
http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r...ps400d79ea.jpg

I can't stand people like this and don't mind going out of my way to put them in there place, even if its just for a little bit and dosnt accomplish anything significant.

smitty141 07-21-2013 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by deanp (Post 3988146)
So I'm sitting in a parking lot when this dirt bag pulls up and decides rather than open his door and get out, it would be better to shove it open at mach 3 and bang it into the side of my Jeep. Fortunately I have sliders and a 2.5" lift. Small scrape on the sliders but it completely rolls the edge of his door in the shape of the pipe from the sliders.

Now he is mad at me for damaging his vehicle. Where has respect for others property and taking ownership in your own actions gone?

Its the school system... No respect anywhere... Sorry the DB scratched your slider...:nonono:

Smitty

flipmeover 07-21-2013 09:41 PM

I gotta say that is one benefit of having a Jeep... especially lifted... is protection against the AH that doesn't care about your vehicle. Glad to hear your sliders held their ground. Now maybe you should test out your lift clearance on this guys' front end "Bigfoot" style...

Lowerumble 07-21-2013 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by WatchThis! (Post 3988195)
Honestly if the guy was being a DB like this about it I would make his insurance company fix the bad spot in the slider. Even if they looked like this. Just so he has to pay his part.

What happens when they show pics of rust on their door, not paint! :rofl:

OP... I can't believe you were there to see it happen. I was sitting in a vehicle with tinted windows once when a lady pulled up beside me and threw her door open hard into my passenger side. She walked off and I had to jump out and catch up with her. It was about a 1/2 deep into a steel door!

In this case: Jeeps...1 Cars...0

HAFICON 07-21-2013 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by WatchThis! (Post 3988195)
Honestly if the guy was being a DB like this about it I would make his insurance company fix the bad spot in the slider. Even if they looked like this. Just so he has to pay his part.
http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r...ps400d79ea.jpg

I can't stand people like this and don't mind going out of my way to put them in there place, even if its just for a little bit and dosnt accomplish anything significant.


I agree with what you said..

I got this to add..

This guy hit me, and then lied about everything.. well I would have let the Scratch go because well it was not bad but he lied and acted like as AZZ so he wound up paying out about $554 to have my Pre Runned guard re-painted

Me
http://i677.photobucket.com/albums/v...psfaa57a12.jpg

Him
http://i677.photobucket.com/albums/v...psa5c55f1a.jpg

A month earlier this guy had been drinking, had pulled off the road so a car could go around him for some reason then pulled right back out in front of me. My tire tore up his bed and he was mad because I have big tires and damaged his truck *L*

http://i677.photobucket.com/albums/v...psbc1be1b5.jpg

Had he not been drinking, I would have dropped this to but you drink and drive you deserve to loose any and all right to drive period. He had to buy me a new fender and pay to have my steering realigned.

Accidents happen, that is understandable but if you park next to me and swing open your door or your kid kicks open the door and hit me, my Car or Jeep, we are goanna have words..

deanp 07-21-2013 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by flipmeover (Post 3988339)
Now maybe you should test out your lift clearance on this guys' front end "Bigfoot" style...

That thought did cross my mind.

BacaraJKU 07-21-2013 10:17 PM

This is my absolute favorite thing about my jeep. I have custom sliders on it now that stick out about 4 inches. Happy to report I have ZERO dings in my door, but you can see where the wonderful people who I park next to have met my jeep. I believe it's a green, red and white car/suv so far.

HAFICON 07-21-2013 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by BacaraJKU (Post 3988449)
This is my absolute favorite thing about my jeep. I have custom sliders on it now that stick out about 4 inches. Happy to report I have ZERO dings in my door, but you can see where the wonderful people who I park next to have met my jeep. I believe it's a green, red and white car/suv so far.


*L* nice got to love that.. Couple that with some wider tires and a little lift you should be good.

mjpjr45 07-21-2013 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by BacaraJKU (Post 3988449)
This is my absolute favorite thing about my jeep. I have custom sliders on it now that stick out about 4 inches. Happy to report I have ZERO dings in my door, but you can see where the wonderful people who I park next to have met my jeep. I believe it's a green, red and white car/suv so far.

I love finding new paint colors on my slider/steps. I always looks, then look to see if it matches the car next to me. :D

JeepCourtney3700 07-22-2013 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by deanp (Post 3988146)
I'm sitting in a parking lot when this dirt bag pulls up... Now he is mad at me for damaging his vehicle. Where has respect for others property and taking ownership in your own actions gone?

Not defending this guy at all if that's what really happened but I have to ask you the same of what you asked us. In other words, where's your respect for his property and where is your account of you taking ownership of your vehicle damaging his in his haste and solving the problem in your own actions?

You're angry and upset, I get it. And you already insulted and shamed the man by venting to us. What exactly is the outcome that you are seeking?

I have rock sliders on my Jeep and on several occasions, people have parked too close and opened their doors too fast, only to end up denting their own doors. A few times I've been in the Jeep when it's happened and proceeded to call to account the other person and hold them responsible.

(Fwiw I go out of my way to make sure that I NEVER ding anyone's doors - ever)

Sometimes they apologize, other times they don't. It used to bother me, but now not so much. It's been my experience that people who do this usually don't care about their vehicles or themselves so what's another ding to their vehicle?

I have no problem getting real nasty real quick with folks who do bs but have grown to realize that all the energy from that anger can be better invested doing more productive things.

So I park in the open spots a decent distance from the entrance of wherever I'm going. Usually the inconsiderate folks are way too lazy and in too much of a hurry to park across the parking lot where there's tons of vacant spaces and few vehicles. Just my $0.02.

jeepingchester 07-22-2013 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by JeepCourtney3700 (Post 3988811)

Not defending this guy at all if that's what really happened but I have to ask you the same of what you asked us. In other words, where's your respect for his property and where is your account of you taking ownership of your vehicle damaging his in his haste and solving the problem in your own actions?

You're angry and upset, I get it. And you already insulted and shamed the man by venting to us. What exactly is the outcome that you are seeking?

Ip have rock sliders on my Jeep and on several occasions, people have parked too close and opened their doors too fast, only to end up denting their own doors. A few times I've been in the Jeep when it's happened and proceeded to call to account the other person and hold them responsible.

(Fwiw I go out of my way to make sure that I NEVER ding anyone's doors - ever)

Sometimes they apologize, other times they don't. It used to bother me, but now not so much. It's been my experience that people who do this usually don't care about their vehicles or themselves so what's another ding to their vehicle?

I have no problem getting real nasty real quick with folks who do bs but have grown to realize that all the energy from that anger can be better invested doing more productive things.

So I park in the open spots a decent distance from the entrance of wherever I'm going. Usually the inconsiderate folks are way too lazy and in too much of a hurry to park across the parking lot where there's tons of vacant spaces and few vehicles. Just my $0.02.

Not sure I understand on what your saying but it sounds like since the op didn't park on the far side of the parking lot that he should take some blame aswell? Please tell me I'm reading this wrong.

Lowerumble 07-22-2013 12:48 AM

He is just saying that the older you get the more you try to prevent issues rather than spend time dealing with them. I am still learning the lesson. Trying to let more stuff "go" and prevent the issues from popping up. Save myself a little rise in the blood pressure... at heart, I am still a hothead though...

wmwhitey 07-22-2013 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by jeepingchester (Post 3988862)
Not sure I understand on what your saying but it sounds like since the op didn't park on the far side of the parking lot that he should take some blame aswell? Please tell me I'm reading this wrong.


No you read it rite and as I read it i was really thinking this guy has either lost it or dont give a shit about his jeep.

RevCo666 07-22-2013 01:23 AM

So I guess 99% of the population is inconsiderate and lazy for wanting a close spot to the entrance of a store. Does that mean someone with a handicap sticker the worse offender of the pack??

JeepCourtney3700 07-22-2013 02:03 AM

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Originally Posted by jeepingchester (Post 3988862)
Not sure I understand on what your saying but it sounds like since the op didn't park on the far side of the parking lot that he should take some blame aswell? Please tell me I'm reading this wrong.

Not saying that at all. Please re-read. The op asked us all a question, a question that I highlighted. I was merely asking him to answer his own question. Like I said, I'm not defending the other party at all but where and what is the OP's share of accountability in all of this? More importantly, what was the solution that he was seeking?

It's not a malicious question at all nor was my post intended to come off as inflammatory; I was asking more out of sheer curiosity. Make sense? That's what I was asking.

@lowerumble, yep.

@wmwhitey, none of the above. Seriously dude, wtf?!?

@RevCo666, have you ever been to DFW? More importantly, the malls and popular shopping stores? People here who park in the front ARE "in a rush", sometimes too lazy to park, entitled, inconsiderate and/or snobbish individuals. Of course there are exceptions but the next time you're here, take a look. Usually it's these people who are in such a hurry, they don't have time to park correctly, open their doors with care and usually don't care about the vehicles next to them.

Don't get me started on handicap spaces. What's worse is when perfectly fine individuals park in handicap areas either illegally or with a temporary tag when NOTHING is wrong with them. And people will park in the loading zone, block vehicles from passing through while they either do redbox or go shopping.

There's nothing wrong with handicap spaces as long as those who use it use it correctly.

But I digress. Back on topic eh?

david.w.johnson 07-22-2013 02:07 AM

You guys should try parking in Belgium. The spots are much smaller because everyone drives the little Euro type cars. The young ones love my Jeep. The older ones glare at me as I go by.

ms705jk 07-22-2013 05:52 AM

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Originally Posted by RevCo666 (Post 3988911)
So I guess 99% of the population is inconsiderate and lazy for wanting a close spot to the entrance of a store. Does that mean someone with a handicap sticker the worse offender of the pack??

Hell yeah. Lazy ass old broke down heffers. Lmbo. The herd needs to be thinned of the close parkers

2013JKBulldog 07-22-2013 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by JeepCourtney3700 (Post 3988811)

Not defending this guy at all if that's what really happened but I have to ask you the same of what you asked us. In other words, where's your respect for his property and where is your account of you taking ownership of your vehicle damaging his in his haste and solving the problem in your own actions?

You're angry and upset, I get it. And you already insulted and shamed the man by venting to us. What exactly is the outcome that you are seeking?

I have rock sliders on my Jeep and on several occasions, people have parked too close and opened their doors too fast, only to end up denting their own doors. A few times I've been in the Jeep when it's happened and proceeded to call to account the other person and hold them responsible.

(Fwiw I go out of my way to make sure that I NEVER ding anyone's doors - ever)

Sometimes they apologize, other times they don't. It used to bother me, but now not so much. It's been my experience that people who do this usually don't care about their vehicles or themselves so what's another ding to their vehicle?

I have no problem getting real nasty real quick with folks who do bs but have grown to realize that all the energy from that anger can be better invested doing more productive things.

So I park in the open spots a decent distance from the entrance of wherever I'm going. Usually the inconsiderate folks are way too lazy and in too much of a hurry to park across the parking lot where there's tons of vacant spaces and few vehicles. Just my $0.02.

This just went on too long, park wherever you like just in the lines others can choose we're they want to park.

Jaker jk 07-22-2013 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by JeepCourtney3700 (Post 3988811)
Not defending this guy at all if that's what really happened but I have to ask you the same of what you asked us. In other words, where's your respect for his property and where is your account of you taking ownership of your vehicle damaging his in his haste and solving the problem in your own actions?

You're angry and upset, I get it. And you already insulted and shamed the man by venting to us. What exactly is the outcome that you are seeking?

I have rock sliders on my Jeep and on several occasions, people have parked too close and opened their doors too fast, only to end up denting their own doors. A few times I've been in the Jeep when it's happened and proceeded to call to account the other person and hold them responsible.

(Fwiw I go out of my way to make sure that I NEVER ding anyone's doors - ever)

Sometimes they apologize, other times they don't. It used to bother me, but now not so much. It's been my experience that people who do this usually don't care about their vehicles or themselves so what's another ding to their vehicle?

I have no problem getting real nasty real quick with folks who do bs but have grown to realize that all the energy from that anger can be better invested doing more productive things.

So I park in the open spots a decent distance from the entrance of wherever I'm going. Usually the inconsiderate folks are way too lazy and in too much of a hurry to park across the parking lot where there's tons of vacant spaces and few vehicles. Just my $0.02.

So its partially his fault for where he parked , so if he would have parked way out in BFE so he could be the only car and that one car ( there is always one that parks next to you ) ends up hitting his door who is at fault then

5150Rubicon 07-22-2013 07:20 AM

On a lighter note...don't sneeze too close the your Jeep, or it will also dent the sheetmetal :D

I am glad your rock rail did his door in.

JeepCourtney3700 07-22-2013 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by 2013JKBulldog (Post 3989132)
This just went on too long, park wherever you like just in the lines others can choose we're they want to park.

:D :rofl:

You've met your month's reading quota early. No more Internet reading for joo.

HOOCBB 07-22-2013 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by JeepCourtney3700 (Post 3988811)
Not defending this guy at all if that's what really happened but I have to ask you the same of what you asked us. In other words, where's your respect for his property and where is your account of you taking ownership of your vehicle damaging his in his haste and solving the problem in your own actions?

You're angry and upset, I get it. And you already insulted and shamed the man by venting to us. What exactly is the outcome that you are seeking?

I have rock sliders on my Jeep and on several occasions, people have parked too close and opened their doors too fast, only to end up denting their own doors. A few times I've been in the Jeep when it's happened and proceeded to call to account the other person and hold them responsible.

(Fwiw I go out of my way to make sure that I NEVER ding anyone's doors - ever)

Sometimes they apologize, other times they don't. It used to bother me, but now not so much. It's been my experience that people who do this usually don't care about their vehicles or themselves so what's another ding to their vehicle?

I have no problem getting real nasty real quick with folks who do bs but have grown to realize that all the energy from that anger can be better invested doing more productive things.

So I park in the open spots a decent distance from the entrance of wherever I'm going. Usually the inconsiderate folks are way too lazy and in too much of a hurry to park across the parking lot where there's tons of vacant spaces and few vehicles. Just my $0.02.

Why didn't you take responsibility for your Jeep damaging their door?

Quote:

Originally Posted by JeepCourtney3700 (Post 3988940)
Not saying that at all. Please re-read. The op asked us all a question, a question that I highlighted. I was merely asking him to answer his own question. Like I said, I'm not defending the other party at all but where and what is the OP's share of accountability in all of this? More importantly, what was the solution that he was seeking?

It's not a malicious question at all nor was my post intended to come off as inflammatory; I was asking more out of sheer curiosity. Make sense? That's what I was asking.

@lowerumble, yep.

@wmwhitey, none of the above. Seriously dude, wtf?!?

@RevCo666, have you ever been to DFW? More importantly, the malls and popular shopping stores? People here who park in the front ARE "in a rush", sometimes too lazy to park, entitled, inconsiderate and/or snobbish individuals. Of course there are exceptions but the next time you're here, take a look. Usually it's these people who are in such a hurry, they don't have time to park correctly, open their doors with care and usually don't care about the vehicles next to them.

Don't get me started on handicap spaces. What's worse is when perfectly fine individuals park in handicap areas either illegally or with a temporary tag when NOTHING is wrong with them. And people will park in the loading zone, block vehicles from passing through while they either do redbox or go shopping.

There's nothing wrong with handicap spaces as long as those who use it use it correctly.

But I digress. Back on topic eh?


Why should the OP take any responsibility in the incident? He didn't swing his rock sliders into the person's door, did he? It doesn't sound to me like he needs or wants any solution other than the dirtbag to take responsibility for his OWN actions and not be pissed for damaging his own door on the OP's sliders.

Screw these people that claim zero responsibility for their own actions. I had door dings in my Mustangs from idiots, and I ALWAYS tried to park where I would minimize the possibility of them. I still park this way.

If you didn't intend for your response to come off as defending the dirtbag that flung the door into the rock slider, then you need to proofread your responses and reword accordingly to ensure it fits with your train of thought. Otherwise, you sound like a hypocrite bashing the OP, then telling of how you've done the same thing.

What part of DFW do you live in? I just want to make sure I avoid you wanting me to take responsibility for your actions.


Back on topic...this is a good reason to have sliders, even for a mall crawler.

DJL2 07-22-2013 10:41 AM

You know, close parkers are an epidemic - most of them are not in a rush, they are just lazy. I study people and I analyze things. Have you ever timed yourself walking across a parking lot? Now, I tend to move briskly at around 3.5 mph or relaxed at around 3.0 mph - so, my results may vary from yours. That said, I can park 2/3 of the way back and generally it takes me not more than 30 seconds to reach the 1/3 or closer point in parking lot (aka the "good" parking spaces). It's absurd - people will spend five to fifteen minutes lapping a parking lot to save 30-60 seconds of walking. At the point I'd say you qualify for O2 Thief status until proven otherwise.

Interestingly, to the OPs point, my wife has authorized the purchase of bigger sliders or modification of my Rubi sliders not for rocks and trails, but for idiots. We were on our way to Uwharrie NF and headed out of town on a highway that narrowed to one lane for construction. I am damned if this is not the truth - some idiot in a little sedan drove into the side of my Jeep. It was like NASCAR, Days of Thunder style - "rubbin's racin'." It was a little bit of my tire (thankfully not gouged or scarred) and maybe a little Rubi Rail - but that is just way too close! I mean, honestly, how do you not see 4400+ pounds of lifted Jeep at your 2:30?

I've had folks ding my rails (which generally doesn't bother me - that's what they are there for), but no one has had the temerity to get upset about their own idiocy yet. I figure the rails are made to be damaged so the the gouge/scratch/chip/dent in your car is its own reward, enjoy! I am a passionate individual, so that would be an interesting discussion I am sure.

Duckquackers 07-22-2013 10:52 AM

3700, as one of those "Perfectly looking" people that park in handicap parking you have no idea what that person deals with or has dealt with in the past to earn their plates. I park where I am allowed to park for several reasons but folks just like yourself complain and want to go out of there way to say something to me. I smile nod and go about my day. What you need to remember is that person could have given you your right to open that pie hole of yours so think before you offend another person.

I do have to admit that there are a lot of folks that abuse the tag and allow others, ie there kids to use the tags and that is not right.

Back to topic at hand, I had a lady leave a note on my Jeep to contact her so she can file a claim with my insurance company, whaa ha ha!

JeepCourtney3700 07-22-2013 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by HOOCBB (Post 3989677)
Why should the OP take any responsibility in the incident? He didn't swing his rock sliders into the person's door, did he?

Screw these people that claim zero responsibility for their own actions. I had door dings in my Mustangs from idiots, and I ALWAYS tried to park where I would minimize the possibility of them. I still park this way.

Otherwise, you sound like a hypocrite bashing the OP, then telling of how you've done the same thing.

What part of DFW do you live in? I just want to make sure I avoid you wanting me to take responsibility for your actions.

Back on topic...this is a good reason to have sliders, even for a mall crawler.

Hahaha! First off, I'm not like the OP. Whereas he doesn't, I do take full and complete responsibility for my rock sliders. I put them on for many reasons, one of them being exactly for instances like this: where people open their doors too fast and get a door beating.

If you ram your door into my jeep, you will get and deserve a dented door. I am remorseless about it and the other person deserves what they get. Same instance here, I'm not bashing the op at all.

That's what I was looking for: complete ownership of putting on those suckers for the sake of protecting one's vehicle. There's my accountability and there's my responsibility. So long as they respect my vehicle, I respect theirs. But if they don't respect mine, theirs will not be respected.

If you hit my jeep, my jeep hits back. But what came first? You hitting my jeep or my jeep hitting back? If this guy had never hit the op's jeep in the first place, the op's jeep would never have had to hit back.

I want others to take responsiblilty for their own actions, as I take responsibility for mine.:popcorn:

JeepCourtney3700 07-22-2013 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Duckquackers (Post 3989712)
3700, as one of those "Perfectly looking" people that park in handicap parking you have no idea what that person deals with or has dealt with in the past to earn their plates. I park where I am allowed to park for several reasons but folks just like yourself complain and want to go out of there way to say something to me. I smile nod and go about my day. What you need to remember is that person could have given you your right to open that pie hole of yours so think before you offend another person.

After all is said and done, I really don't care; I was somewhat ranting earlier so thanks for reading my rant..lol... seriously though, policing the parking lots is not my job. If you're illegitimately parking where you shouldn't, it'll eventually catch up to you. Have fun with your pie hole.

dawhitesJKU 07-22-2013 11:24 AM

i did the same thing before. i had a civic and parked really close to an airport shuttle van (which had side steps). I scraped the sides of my door, but got upset at myself. My fault and not the parked shuttle van's fault.

BManz 07-22-2013 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by DJL2 (Post 3989684)
You know, close parkers are an epidemic - most of them are not in a rush, they are just lazy. I study people and I analyze things. Have you ever timed yourself walking across a parking lot? Now, I tend to move briskly at around 3.5 mph or relaxed at around 3.0 mph - so, my results may vary from yours. That said, I can park 2/3 of the way back and generally it takes me not more than 30 seconds to reach the 1/3 or closer point in parking lot (aka the "good" parking spaces). It's absurd - people will spend five to fifteen minutes lapping a parking lot to save 30-60 seconds of walking.

Well said! I do the same thing and I will never forget a family circling, waiting, circling some more, waiting (rinse-repeat) while I was walking into a local Wally World from a far corner lot space only to see them, 15min later finally pulling into a "close" spot. My God, stupid people! They're gonna walk a mile or more inside the store anyway what the heck is another 200 feet???:facepalm:

If one is able bodied, parking close is stupid because when it's time to leave it's an agonizing process to maneuver out and around all the clusterfricks of people clamoring to be "close".

And to the OP, my Ace sliders have been customizing doors for free all over parking lots in Chicagoland since I got them in January! They're now black, blue, red, green, yellow, tan in various spots.


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