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rdock31 07-28-2013 01:09 PM

Stuck bolt will not budge
 
I've been trying to remove my rear axle side track bar bolt for the past week or so and spraying the PB tons and still nothing. Reason is I'm going to install a Tb bracket. I've been trying manually with a 16" pipe over the ratchet handle and with an air ratchet, and it only budges a smidgen at most. Any ideas to loosen?

StumpHumper 07-28-2013 01:12 PM

I fought mine for 3 hours, ended up having to hit it with the hot wrench and 1/2" impact to get it to break free.

jherrington 07-28-2013 01:13 PM

Well if its moving at all, thats something!

If you really want it out, you can cut it off. or use heat.

jsuggs 07-28-2013 01:19 PM

Unless you have a impact and torch, just keep going back and forth with it. Keep putting oil on it. Try hitting the bushing with a hammer, to see if it is stuck to the bolt. Then repeat entire process.

Best of luck

Jeremy
ASE Master Auto Technician

rdock31 07-28-2013 01:24 PM

Thanks for the replies! I don't have a impact, but I can easily get one. Though it doesn't look like it'll fit due to the gas tank.

1jeeplvr 07-28-2013 03:51 PM

You have the bolt that uses a torx to remove it correct?

rdock31 07-28-2013 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by 1jeeplvr (Post 4012767)
You have the bolt that uses a torx to remove it correct?

Correct, that's what axle side mount uses.

NJO 07-28-2013 06:36 PM

MAP gas everytime..........

ChaddG 07-28-2013 07:15 PM

if the 12 year old rear track bar is half as tight as the front 1 year old track bar that went to crap, i'm selling the jeep!

R u s s 07-28-2013 07:32 PM

Heat

PitViper 07-28-2013 08:47 PM

More leverage. Had the same problem with my skid plate. We could not get them removed. Ended up locking a vise grip on them then sticking the handles into the end of a 6 foot pipe. They almost came off with just using one hand then.

rdock31 07-28-2013 09:26 PM

Would a 3/8 impact work just the same as a 1/2? All my sockets are 3/8.

jeepwayoflife 07-28-2013 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by rdock31 (Post 4013894)
Would a 3/8 impact work just the same as a 1/2? All my sockets are 3/8.

Yes but it probably won't be as powerful as the 1/2". If the 3/8" doesn't work you could always use a 1/2" with reducer to 3/8.

doclouie 07-28-2013 10:34 PM

If it moves that is good. I am betting that you need to ratchet strap the axle so it takes the stress off the trac bar and the bolt will come out easier. That is what I had to do.

rdock31 07-28-2013 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by doclouie (Post 4014221)
If it moves that is good. I am betting that you need to ratchet strap the axle so it takes the stress off the trac bar and the bolt will come out easier. That is what I had to do.

Yeah there's probably more stress on it too since it's lifted (2") without the bracket. Gonna pick up the impact tomorrow and see if I have any luck with the removal.

Rubikhan 07-28-2013 10:53 PM

Gotta heat it up, a cheap butane torch will work. Just be mindful of the gas tank. The nut and or bolt will expand with the heat and separate enough to break loose.

yoopone 07-29-2013 06:36 AM

Hand held gas torch works wonders. Always amazes me how easy things come out when I turn them red hot first. I am always just nervous around the gas tank.

GoldenSahara00 07-29-2013 06:58 AM

Jack up the axle until The bushing appears to be even with the mount to take pressure off the bolt. Continue what you have been doing with a penetrant and heat. Pick up an impact and get to work.

Water Dog 07-29-2013 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by rdock31 (Post 4012336)
Thanks for the replies! I don't have a impact, but I can easily get one. Though it doesn't look like it'll fit due to the gas tank.

Disconnect the sway bar links, upper end of the track bar, and shocks, then lower the axle to get it below the gas tank. Then you can get straight on it with an impact.

rdock31 07-29-2013 01:50 PM

Wow, been working on it all day. Disconnected sway bars, shocks and frame side track bar mount. Bought an impact and it's still not coming out. I cannot find our torch so I haven't heated it up yet. Hope I can get it out soon

GoldenSahara00 07-29-2013 03:12 PM

You are trying to take the nut side off right? Is the bolt spinning at all? Is it moving but just slowly?

You should be able to find someone with a bigger impact and a good set of impact sockets. I have a 1/2 drive, and my buddies blows it out of the water, paired with a good set of impact sockets. Keep up with the penetrant.

rdock31 07-29-2013 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldenSahara00 (Post 4016398)
You are trying to take the nut side off right? Is the bolt spinning at all? Is it moving but just slowly?

You should be able to find someone with a bigger impact and a good set of impact sockets. I have a 1/2 drive, and my buddies blows it out of the water, paired with a good set of impact sockets. Keep up with the penetrant.

Ive been using the impact on the the Torx bolt, the other side has the tab that prevents the nut from spinning correct? I bought a HF impact earlier and a little bit ago I went and borrowed my uncles professional grade impact that he uses at his auto shop. It spins very slightly when I tighten/loosen. Frame side bolt is off and TB is hanging so no tension on it

GoldenSahara00 07-29-2013 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by rdock31 (Post 4016417)

Ive been using the impact on the the Torx bolt, the other side has the tab that prevents the nut from spinning correct? I bought a HF impact earlier and a little bit ago I went and borrowed my uncles professional grade impact that he uses at his auto shop. It spins very slightly when I tighten/loosen. Frame side bolt is off and TB is hanging so no tension on it

Are you holding the bolt so it doesn't spin as well? Yes that flag nut will keep it from spinning but you Should be able to turn it some. It's long gone on my rig so I forget how much. You may need to get this started with a big breaker bar.

rdock31 07-29-2013 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoldenSahara00 (Post 4016435)

Are you holding the bolt so it doesn't spin as well? Yes that flag nut will keep it from spinning but you Should be able to turn it some. It's long gone on my rig so I forget how much. You may need to get this started with a big breaker bar.

Yep, nothing is spinning at all. As for breaker bars, I have a 16" pipe that I fit over a ratchet handle and a 1/2" drive ratchet with a 2' handle. Neither move it at all.. Wanna avoid cutting it out b/c I have everything disco'd in my garage. And to use the saw ive gotta put it all together again and take it to the shop. Might just give up and not install the bracket and live with the shift of the axle lol

GoldenSahara00 07-29-2013 03:38 PM

I use a 4 foot bar on a 2 foot breaker bar... lol. Find a big piece of metal tube or pipe. You don't have an angle grinder and cut off wheel or saws all? If it's not spinning the bolt even either it was really torqued last time or it's frozen in the sleeve and to the bushing.

rdock31 07-29-2013 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldenSahara00 (Post 4016475)
I use a 4 foot bar on a 2 foot breaker bar... lol. Find a big piece of metal tube or pipe. You don't have an angle grinder and cut off wheel or saws all? If it's not spinning the bolt even either it was really torqued last time or it's frozen in the sleeve and to the bushing.

Gotta see what kind of tube I can find haha I do have a saws all and possibly a cut off wheel. If I cut it hopefully ill be able to find the bolt considering its not the typical type.

rdock31 07-29-2013 04:00 PM

Bingo! Found a 4' pipe and cracked it loose, finally. Thanks for your help everyone.

GoldenSahara00 07-29-2013 04:07 PM

Glad you got it man, just needed a little elbow grease :thumb:

jherrington 07-29-2013 04:22 PM

Yayyy!

JeepnJim 07-29-2013 10:52 PM

I wouldn't use a cinder block to support the weight of your Jeep. Heavy wood blocks would be better.


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