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legitposter 07-30-2013 01:11 PM

Opposite corners on jack stands?
 
Hello.

I have a non matching spare, so I can't do the easier 5-tire rotation. I have to do the typical X rotation.

Can I lift two opposite corners onto jack stands at the same time and swap the tires? I figure this is the equivalent of usual wrangler articulation but I just want to make sure. I'm just paranoid about this stuff.

GoldenSahara00 07-30-2013 01:24 PM

I wouldn't. Your frame isn't gona twist and that's where the jack stands should be. If you are placing them under the axle I suppose you could but why not just out the 2 jack stands in the front and use the jack to support from the axle in the rear and do all 4 at once?

kik 07-30-2013 01:28 PM

I would not do that.

Metonymy 07-30-2013 01:30 PM

If you'd like to near-guarantee that your Jeep tips over and likely kicks out at least one of the jack stands, then sure, go for it.

As others have stated... I highly recommend against it.

i82much 07-30-2013 01:48 PM

I'd either do one tire at a time or get two more jack stands and have it up on all four.

Heck I usually even put the spare under the side I am working on in case the jack stand fails. You really can't be too careful, and the last award you want to win is a Darwin.

2five22 07-30-2013 02:01 PM

For safety's sake, do not do this!

Cons_Table 07-30-2013 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldenSahara00 (Post 4019626)
why not just out the 2 jack stands in the front and use the jack to support from the axle in the rear and do all 4 at once?

This is what I would do...not only would it work better, but it would also let you do a REARWARD cross rotation like you should, not an X rotation.

scottmphoto 07-30-2013 02:41 PM

Maybe even use some spare wood you have laying around to help brace the rear??

legitposter 07-30-2013 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldenSahara00 (Post 4019626)
I wouldn't. Your frame isn't gona twist and that's where the jack stands should be. If you are placing them under the axle I suppose you could but why not just out the 2 jack stands in the front and use the jack to support from the axle in the rear and do all 4 at once?

All four at once just seemed too dangerous. All weight supported on stands. I prefer to keep tires on the ground. But judging from everyone's responses, this clearly ain't gonna work.

C.L. 07-30-2013 03:36 PM

Could be worse...

http://www.swapmeetdave.com/Humor/Wo.../ProppedUp.jpg

Hope that puts things in perspective.

Cons_Table 07-30-2013 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by legitposter (Post 4020105)

All four at once just seemed too dangerous. All weight supported on stands. I prefer to keep tires on the ground. But judging from everyone's responses, this clearly ain't gonna work.

Putting the jeep just on stands wont hurt anything.

The shop that I take my jeep to for rotations (free rotations or else id do it myself) they use one or two jacks on the front and one jack on the rear and do all 4 tires...no problem

i82much 07-30-2013 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by legitposter (Post 4020105)
All four at once just seemed too dangerous. All weight supported on stands. I prefer to keep tires on the ground. But judging from everyone's responses, this clearly ain't gonna work.

On a full frame vehicle I really can't see this being any problem at all. If the frame wasn't strong enough to support the weight of the vehicle entirely on 4 jack stands, I think we'd all have much bigger problems!

Edit: In fact, I think this is probably fine for unibody construction vehicles as well, although I have never owned one so I can't say for sure. Which, of course, has absolutely no relevance to JK's whatsoever and is mostly me just pontificating for my own benefit. Thanks for reading :)

GoldenSahara00 07-30-2013 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by legitposter (Post 4020105)
All four at once just seemed too dangerous. All weight supported on stands. I prefer to keep tires on the ground. But judging from everyone's responses, this clearly ain't gonna work.


Yeah, you're gona be fine. Trust me I have done worse, you should see some of the rigs I've had set up for axle swaps :rofl:

If you have two stands and a jack all properly placed, you're completely safe, especially for something like a tire rotation, where you aren't even under the vehicle.

Reece 07-30-2013 03:57 PM

I say go for it! You only have to raise opposing axle corners a few inches to get the tire off the ground. That's exactly what you do when you place either the whole front or rear on jack stands, right? You raise one corner and position your jack stand. Then you lower the axle onto the stand. At that point, one corner is raised, no danger of kicking out, right? I assume you're using a floor jack. You should be able to raise the opposing corner the same way. Just chock both sides of the wheels that remain on the ground, make sure you are on a level surface, don't go too high, pay attention, don't do it while drunk and you should be safe.

GoldenSahara00 07-30-2013 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Reece (Post 4020218)
I say go for it! You only have to raise opposing axle corners a few inches to get the tire off the ground. That's exactly what you do when you place either the whole front or rear on jack stands, right? You raise one corner and position your jack stand. Then you lower the axle onto the stand. At that point, one corner is raised, no danger of kicking out, right? I assume you're using a floor jack. You should be able to raise the opposing corner the same way. Just chock both sides of the wheels that remain on the ground, make sure you are on a level surface, don't go too high, pay attention, don't do it while drunk and you should be safe.


Why do this when I proposed the correct and a much safer way to do this above that doesn't involve moving jacks/stands around and allowed a proper rotation?

panthermark 07-30-2013 04:51 PM

If you want to do it the "safe" way....use the spare in the rotation. It means you will have to jack up a corner one extra time, but it also means that at least 3 wheels will always be on the ground.

Cons_Table 07-30-2013 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by i82much (Post 4020182)
Edit: In fact, I think this is probably fine for unibody construction vehicles as well, although I have never owned one so I can't say for sure. Which, of course, has absolutely no relevance to JK's whatsoever and is mostly me just pontificating for my own benefit. Thanks for reading :)

Our race cherokee :whistling:

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i82much 07-30-2013 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Cons_Table (Post 4020476)

Well there ya go. I am gonna go put my buddy's Subaru Justy up on 4 jack stands just for kicks now :)

Txrdstr 07-30-2013 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by legitposter (Post 4019584)
Hello.

I have a non matching spare, so I can't do the easier 5-tire rotation. I have to do the typical X rotation.

Can I lift two opposite corners onto jack stands at the same time and swap the tires? I figure this is the equivalent of usual wrangler articulation but I just want to make sure. I'm just paranoid about this stuff.

No, do 2 under front then floor jack under rear diff if do not have 4 jack stands. Or spend 30 on another set of stands

23toyharris2012 07-30-2013 07:49 PM

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I recently was trying to get the spare tire out from under my step dads truck and had the jack slip out and the differential fell on my leg. 3 months 4 screws and a titanium rod later I still feel extremely lucky!! I have better pictures on my phone

23toyharris2012 07-30-2013 07:52 PM

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I do not recommend it either


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