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WhiskeyMike 08-05-2013 06:20 PM

Rip and replace stereo plan
 
I've got everything on order for a total rip and replace of my stereo and I plan to do it pieces. Please let me know if you see any issues or extra items I'd need to do it this way.

First replace headunit, use harness and steering wheel packages, run stock speakers through harness. Test.

Then change out all 6 speakers. Test.

Then add amp, switch speaker wires from harness to new runs going to amp, capping harness speaker wires. Test

Then add basslink. Test. Then backup camera.

My thought is that this allows me to do it piecemeal so I know all the pieces are working in stages, as opposed to ripping everything up and praying. I also thought about using a measuring app on the ipad to track the differences. It's not a solid way to know which sounds better, but which is producing the broadest hertz ranges. I don't see much rework in this process.

I haven't installed a radio in 20 years, so I think slow and steady is best. :)

Neral22 08-05-2013 07:05 PM

The dash for the front speakers is a real PITA so just dont put the dash back together in between the stages :)

WhiskeyMike 08-05-2013 07:52 PM

Yep, I hear ya.

Mattk11 08-07-2013 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by WhiskeyMike (Post 4043210)
I've got everything on order for a total rip and replace of my stereo and I plan to do it pieces. Please let me know if you see any issues or extra items I'd need to do it this way.

First replace headunit, use harness and steering wheel packages, run stock speakers through harness. Test.

Then change out all 6 speakers. Test.

Then add amp, switch speaker wires from harness to new runs going to amp, capping harness speaker wires. Test

Then add basslink. Test. Then backup camera.

My thought is that this allows me to do it piecemeal so I know all the pieces are working in stages, as opposed to ripping everything up and praying. I also thought about using a measuring app on the ipad to track the differences. It's not a solid way to know which sounds better, but which is producing the broadest hertz ranges. I don't see much rework in this process.

I haven't installed a radio in 20 years, so I think slow and steady is best. :)

Radio replacement is easy and won't take you long. While you have the center of you dash opened up, you may want to run the wires for you amps (RCAs, turn on wires) and leave them there until you are ready to install the amps.

You can do all 4 speakers on the same day. The front speaker pods aren't as bad as people suggest. The passenger side is easy - take it out through the glove box opening. The drivers side takes more time and guts because you have to pull out on the lower dash to the point of it almost breaking and tumble the pod forward and out. The tweeters are simple and the sound bar even easier. Of course if you plan to run new speaker wires with the new amps, you will have to repeat these steps again.

Amps will depend on where you put them. If you plan to use the factory location, do it while your speaker pod is out or you will just have to repeat the process. Some people put them under the seats, but I ultimately used that space for subs. I put all three amps inside the dash since there is quite a bit of room up there if you get a little creative.

I will say this, if you budget 4-6 hours for each stage, it will take you double because of little snafus like connectors, wire routing, trimming and connections. And if you do it piecemeal, you will be doing your teardown and rebuild multiple times in some cases because of access. I bet I have pulled my radio 5-6 times as I changed, added and tweaked my system

Your method works fine if you don't mind tearing apart, testing, tearing apart again, re-testing, tearing apart again, etc. I did mine all at once. Jeep was torn apart for two and a half straight days in late December. Once all the wiring was done, I built the sub enclosure and added the sub (just had to connect the speaker wires). I have since redone the subs, put in a larger sub amp and then added a second sub and second sub amp. Third time around was a charm and I learned a lot in the process.

WhiskeyMike 08-07-2013 07:41 AM

Awesome, thanks. What subs did you put under the seats? Do you have any pics?

ND Irish JK 08-12-2013 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by WhiskeyMike (Post 4049561)
Awesome, thanks. What subs did you put under the seats? Do you have any pics?

I just replaced everything this past weekend. I installed my amp in the hidden cargo tray in the rear. That way I don't have to worry about it getting wet, or dirty.

Mattk11 08-13-2013 07:13 AM

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Awesome, thanks. What subs did you put under the seats? Do you have any pics?

Sundown SD-2 10" under each seat. I've also made a few others with Alpine Type R, Rockford Fosgate and JL shallow mounts. Then I retired from the box building business. Too time consuming and I didn't really make any money.

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woansleftpeg 08-13-2013 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ND Irish JK (Post 4069144)
I just replaced everything this past weekend. I installed my amp in the hidden cargo tray in the rear. That way I don't have to worry about it getting wet, or dirty.

Just hot.

Mattk11 08-14-2013 05:34 AM

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Originally Posted by ND Irish JK (Post 4069144)
I just replaced everything this past weekend. I installed my amp in the hidden cargo tray in the rear. That way I don't have to worry about it getting wet, or dirty.

Be careful, I got caught in a little rain with my top down and didn't think much of it, it was sprinkling. My rear carpet was a little wet but dried by the next day. About a week later I opened up my rear cargo to grab some jumper cables and it was filled to the brim with water. Not a great environment for electronics.

ND Irish JK 08-15-2013 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by woansleftpeg (Post 4075806)
Just hot.

Actually, no. The amp has a built in fan, and the cables are routed in through both sides so it props up the door enough that heat does escape. I have checked the temp of the amp multiple times and it is cool to the touch even after being on for over an hour.

ND Irish JK 08-15-2013 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattk11 (Post 4076469)
Be careful, I got caught in a little rain with my top down and didn't think much of it, it was sprinkling. My rear carpet was a little wet but dried by the next day. About a week later I opened up my rear cargo to grab some jumper cables and it was filled to the brim with water. Not a great environment for electronics.

I thought about getting a cover for the cargo area when I take off the top to prevent it getting wet, but to also cover up the subwoofer.

Mattk11 08-15-2013 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by ND Irish JK (Post 4080738)
I thought about getting a cover for the cargo area when I take off the top to prevent it getting wet, but to also cover up the subwoofer.

I had one on, but the way I designed it, it had a 1" space between the cover and the tailgate bar so I can put on the soft top on. I thought it would keep out most of the water, but it all seems to go right to that storage box.

ChasUGC 08-25-2013 03:53 PM

I would get everything at once and complete it in one install. Constantly removing the dash, is going to weaken the connectors to the console, cause them to bend, and ruin them. Then, constantly pulling and changing the wires could lead to a short. Just do it once, get it right the first time, and this is best.


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