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4586shaggy 08-10-2013 05:35 PM

Lift kit for comfort and look, not wheeling
 
Hey guys, first thing I wanna say, "I will not be wheeling this Jeep"

I have a 2005 2.4L se with a 6 speed manual. With just under 100k miles. It has the original suspension components, shocks, springs, control arms. I have 31x10.5 tires on 15'' rims right now. My next jeep will be my built wheeler. The key things I am looking for is a little bit of lift with comfort in mind. I have done plenty of research just looking for input from a few eyes of experience. I am not going any higher than 3" of lift. I am going all suspension, no body lift. I will be using motor mount lifts from Brown Dog Offroad so I can keep the driveline angles correct, and NOT doing a transfer case mount. It is not cost effective to get new shafts and a SYE. Since I will not be wheeling I am looking for 2-3'' springs and shocks. What other components/brands would you guys recommend for a basic lift like mine. More geared towards comfort than performance. I do not want super stiff springs as I have the 4cyl and don't have a whole lot of weight. Feel free to chime in. Thanks for the time.

larjeep 08-10-2013 07:33 PM

If that's the case the only thing you will really feel is the springs. So make sure you get good ones for what you are looking for. Like a simple zone lift 2-3 inch has all you need.

WVU Mountainman 08-10-2013 07:38 PM

Also keep in mind all jeeps are different. I put 2" lifted coils on my jeep and added the brown dog 1" MML and still needed near a 1" TC drop. The angles don't lie and mine needed it. I'm not saying yours will need this but all jeeps are different. I have 2" four wheel drive hardware coils and bilstein 5100 shocks. The ride is very comfortable on and offroad.

dmoriarty 08-10-2013 07:54 PM

Based on your criteria I would go with the OME 2.5" lift. Quality springs and great ride.

Water Dog 08-10-2013 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by dmoriarty (Post 4063998)
based on your criteria i would go with the ome 2.5" lift. Quality springs and great ride.

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Majnoon 08-10-2013 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by 4586shaggy (Post 4063560)
Hey guys, first thing I wanna say, "I will not be wheeling this Jeep"

I have a 2005 2.4L se with a 6 speed manual. With just under 100k miles. It has the original suspension components, shocks, springs, control arms. I have 31x10.5 tires on 15'' rims right now. My next jeep will be my built wheeler. The key things I am looking for is a little bit of lift with comfort in mind. I have done plenty of research just looking for input from a few eyes of experience. I am not going any higher than 3" of lift. I am going all suspension, no body lift. I will be using motor mount lifts from Brown Dog Offroad so I can keep the driveline angles correct, and NOT doing a transfer case mount. It is not cost effective to get new shafts and a SYE. Since I will not be wheeling I am looking for 2-3'' springs and shocks. What other components/brands would you guys recommend for a basic lift like mine. More geared towards comfort than performance. I do not want super stiff springs as I have the 4cyl and don't have a whole lot of weight. Feel free to chime in. Thanks for the time.

Swap it out for a low rider S-10 and sell the Jeep to someone that will use it :)

4586shaggy 08-10-2013 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Majnoon (Post 4064041)

Swap it out for a low rider S-10 and sell the Jeep to someone that will use it :)

Ok man. Haha. That's funny. Not everyone uses their jeep to climb a mountain. If you are not going to contribute, please leave the thread. I'm looking for actual advice, not a cynical closed minded comment.

OmniscientHiers 08-10-2013 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Water Dog (Post 4064032)

x2

x3

Majnoon 08-10-2013 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by 4586shaggy (Post 4064065)
Ok man. Haha. That's funny. Not everyone uses their jeep to climb a mountain. If you are not going to contribute, please leave the thread. I'm looking for actual advice, not a cynical closed minded comment.

Okies I would just use some spring spacers like teraflex and daystar sell, sure there are a ton more. Gain an inch or more and have the exact same ride quality. If you go into 3 inches with just springs you may have some vibe issues, My 3 inch teraflex lift came with a T case lowering kit. Its available separate so If you want to take it up to 3 inches go with springs and a lowering kit. It will make your jeep handle worse around turns. I love my lift but hate when those highway signs say slow down for a turn and I better fing do it! You could do so much cooler stuff to your Jeep to make it a head turner and keep it handling best for your intended purpose if you left the suspension stock.

4586shaggy 08-11-2013 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Majnoon (Post 4064163)

Okies I would just use some spring spacers like teraflex and daystar sell, sure there are a ton more. Gain an inch or more and have the exact same ride quality. If you go into 3 inches with just springs you may have some vibe issues, My 3 inch teraflex lift came with a T case lowering kit. Its available separate so If you want to take it up to 3 inches go with springs and a lowering kit. It will make your jeep handle worse around turns. I love my lift but hate when those highway signs say slow down for a turn and I better fing do it! You could do so much cooler stuff to your Jeep to make it a head turner and keep it handling best for your intended purpose if you left the suspension stock.

Majnoon, I was looking toward a slight lift with springs and shocks just cuz the stock is nearing the end of its life and rather than replace with stock or do a body lift I might as well lean towards performance and comfort when replacing. I have already made a few cosmetic changes and will prolly never stop, seeing as how you can do just about anything and everything to a jeep :)

Drakea94 08-11-2013 10:32 PM

If you don't want a real high lift.
Go simple
V8 zj springs in front
Rear springs out of a crown Vic. Will for sure give you a inch or so.
With good shocks
Bilsten ome
Put good beefy 32's good luck not a whole lotta money

Decided you want 33's
Put a 1inch bl Mml ( $180)
2 inch bb ($50)
Put 33's have all kinds of fun offroad or on the road with lcg.

But it you are dead set on a big lift old man emu 2 1/2

Or look at dpg offroad good kit rides nice.

4586shaggy 08-11-2013 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Drakea94 (Post 4067917)
If you don't want a real high lift.
Go simple
V8 zj springs in front
Rear springs out of a crown Vic. Will for sure give you a inch or so.
With good shocks
Bilsten ome
Put good beefy 32's good luck not a whole lotta money

Decided you want 33's
Put a 1inch bl Mml ( $180)
2 inch bb ($50)
Put 33's have all kinds of fun offroad or on the road with lcg.

But it you are dead set on a big lift old man emu 2 1/2

Or look at dpg offroad good kit rides nice.

Thanks drakea

Drakea94 08-11-2013 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by 4586shaggy

Thanks drakea

If you have any questions about the set up I posted pm me or ask me here I'm happy to help

NJO 08-12-2013 08:40 AM

If you want a quality lift with comfort that means you want to use a lift kit that comes with a softer spring rate(equal or less than OEM factory HD springs which are 140/160lbs. F/R). OME springs have the same spring rates as OEM HD. RC uses a progressive spring that's a bit softer. Pair them up with a shock that can give a compliant ride(regular OME nitrochargers, Rancho 9000's, Monroe Sensatracs etc)and you should be good to go.

4586shaggy 08-12-2013 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by NJO (Post 4068705)
If you want a quality lift with comfort that means you want to use a lift kit that comes with a softer spring rate(equal or less than OEM factory HD springs which are 140/160lbs. F/R). OME springs have the same spring rates as OEM HD. RC uses a progressive spring that's a bit softer. Pair them up with a shock that can give a compliant ride(regular OME nitrochargers, Rancho 9000's, Monroe Sensatracs etc)and you should be good to go.

I was looking at the rc progressive rate springs. The only ones I found were the 2.5" ones. I didn't know if you could match those with a 2" or 3" shock though

NJO 08-12-2013 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by 4586shaggy (Post 4068819)
I was looking at the rc progressive rate springs. The only ones I found were the 2.5" ones. I didn't know if you could match those with a 2" or 3" shock though

Gotta realize the springs "lift" height is generalized. It can be a bit higher or lower depending on vehicle weight etc. You can match those springs up with plenty of shocks. Whats important is knowing the compressed length on em. That way you will know if you need to bumpstop or not. If you want to keep it simple go with OME nitrocharger shocks. Those will match up perfectly with the springs and you will only need a 20mm bumpstop in the back(for spring coil bind)from OME which is part # FK16(15 bucks) and an OME trackbar relocation bracket(another 15-20 bucks).

4586shaggy 08-18-2013 09:14 PM

Ok. So I got the rough country 2.5" springs and shocks. JKS adjustable end links. And track bar relocation bracket. Is there anything else I should get to be ready for install? Shouldn't need to do anything with the driveline, should i?

4586shaggy 08-18-2013 09:16 PM

I am also going to be PB blasting all of the connection points over the next few days to be ready for the install

4586shaggy 08-18-2013 09:18 PM

I checked all of the bushings to make sure they were good while I had the tires off this weekend too

I-Want-A-Jeep 08-18-2013 09:30 PM

I have the RC 2.5" spring lift with a 3/4" spacer and needed the TC drop. With 33x12.50's it rides great though! Better than stock!

dabolt55 08-18-2013 09:36 PM

Seems like you got what you were looking for, now go enjoy...:thumb:

4586shaggy 08-18-2013 09:48 PM

Any issues with the install or did it all go pretty smooth?

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Originally Posted by I-Want-A-Jeep (Post 4094275)
I have the RC 2.5" spring lift with a 3/4" spacer and needed the TC drop. With 33x12.50's it rides great though! Better than stock!


Jeep Dad 08-18-2013 10:19 PM

I have a 2 inch OME spring and shock lift with no other changes and I love it. The ride is decent (it's still a jeep) and the equipment is quality.

4586shaggy 08-18-2013 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeep Dad (Post 4094471)
I have a 2 inch OME spring and shock lift with no other changes and I love it. The ride is decent (it's still a jeep) and the equipment is quality.

I was gonna go ome, but can't justify the cost. This won't be a wheeling jeep, 2.4L 6 speed manual. Just breaking into the jeep world. Next one will be built up though

stray1 08-18-2013 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeep Dad (Post 4094471)
I have a 2 inch OME spring and shock lift with no other changes and I love it. The ride is decent (it's still a jeep) and the equipment is quality.

Would you post a pic and what tire size plz?

4586shaggy 08-18-2013 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by stray1 (Post 4094760)

Would you post a pic and what tire size plz?

On the phone right now so cant post a pic, but I have 31x10.5x15

4586shaggy 08-21-2013 01:28 PM

Any recomendations on a good track bar? also bump stop extensions and sizes?

Gold Miner 08-21-2013 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by 4586shaggy (Post 4104929)
Any recomendations on a good track bar? also bump stop extensions and sizes?

Metalcloak, Currie, or JKS are great adjustable track bars. I'm about to order a JKS front. Would love to order Metalcloak but their lead time is weeks, screw that.... I don't care how nice it is. If they can't keep up with orders, why bother. Either grow with demand or sell the company to someone who knows when to expand a business.
Bump stops for 2" lift - I used 4 OME 20mm Bump Stop Extensions, $19.99 per pair from Quadratec (very easy install)

PStov98TJ 08-21-2013 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Gold Miner (Post 4105050)
Metalcloak, Currie, or JKS are great adjustable track bars. I'm about to order a JKS front. Would love to order Metalcloak but their lead time is weeks, screw that.... I don't care how nice it is. If they can't keep up with orders, why bother. Either grow with demand or sell the company to someone who knows when to expand a business.

You're kidding right? That's a pretty ignorant statement. Mc's require no extra bumpstops. JKS makes a very good track bar, don't get me wrong. But MC's is cheaper and a newer, better design. So what if you've gotta wait 2-3 weeks. You'll get a better designed product for less money. Seems like a no brainer to me.

Ironhead Jed 08-21-2013 02:56 PM

it took two weeks for me to get the MC front track bar that will be on my jeep for several years. its worth the 1 week longer wait to get a quality product that will be trouble free for a long time


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