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Applejacks16 08-14-2013 12:13 AM

Parents need some convincing... Help!
 
I'm turning 16 in a few days and i am about to buy my first car. My parents will finance half of the car as long as they approve. I want a jeep wrangler, and I even have one picked out.

My parents aren't thrilled of the idea but they haven't rejected the idea so they are 50/50

Can anyone give my some facts, statistics, or just information that I can use to sway their idea?

Tweak 08-14-2013 12:24 AM

I am trying to find the IIHS listing for you, it shows the JK at something like 3 deaths per million registered. should help you!

there is a big misconception that Jeeps just roll over all the time. the problem is that it was more prevalent with the jeeps that your parents generation grew up with, so it is likely drilled into their minds. I am 25 and I remember hearing it in the late 90's early 00's from my parents.

http://www.wranglerforum.com/f33/mos...es-204178.html

this should help! with luck this will keep you out of a Kia!

Rowlettjeeper 08-14-2013 12:26 AM

It has a roll cage and it gets the girls

Brankz 08-14-2013 12:29 AM

U may get away by saying jeep wrangler is safer because it has a roll cage ;) I know the roll cage is ( fake ) but they don't know that.....

Plus u can get a 2012 for cheap

Don't say nothing about off road...
Just say is fun to drive

Brankz 08-14-2013 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Rowlettjeeper (Post 4075941)
It has a roll cage and it gets the girls

Lol u win by 2 minutes by saying that has a roll cage

jkmohican 08-14-2013 12:37 AM

Yup, the total death rating a year was very low, I can't find the statistic though. Don't talk about off roading to them, or modifications. I think a wrangler, despite a lot of people's opinions, are a great first vehicle. They offer a lot more to the driver than any other vehicle. A wrangler (new or old) will make you a much more responsible person (remembering to put up the top, keeping up with maintenance, mods you want/pay for your self). To you, it's just a first vehicle, but give yourself a good year and you'll be (and possibly your parents) ready to start getting deeper into the whole jeep thing, and it WILL make you a more responsible and wiser person when it comes to automobiles compared to the kids of your generation. Explain THAT to them :)

Ole4Cyli 08-14-2013 12:38 AM

It's a hobby that's character building, and you'll have no money left over to spend on drugs.

Rowlettjeeper 08-14-2013 12:47 AM

Lol tell them not to worry about you becoming a street ricer and going to street races!

VaJeepster 08-14-2013 01:00 AM

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KevinNJ 08-14-2013 09:25 AM

You're going about it all wrong...start with pushing for a motorcycle, preferably the fastest production crotch rocket out there. By the time you beat them up with that idea a jeep will look great!

2resa 08-14-2013 09:49 AM

You're not going to be trying to race your friends off the stop lights. And if you're getting a 2 door then you can only haul a few friends around vs. an SUV that a teen may be more willing to pack in their friends.

erickpl 08-14-2013 09:55 AM

Jeeps will force you to keep speed in check. Drive it TOO fast on curves and things will possibly get interesting. But they are simple enough that you can learn to do a lot of your own maintenance. With some basic armor (rock rails) it can provide additional security in an accident.

You have a higher point of view for visibility and visibility all the way around is actually pretty good. There isn't a lot in the TJ to distract you (not sure on the JK :)), so you can focus on the road. The TJ's and 2 door JK's don't have a lot of space for extra passengers, so again, you won't have a huge distraction.

Finding replacement parts for things that break are fairly easy and a lot of aftermarket support to make things better, should that need arise. Contrary to popular opinion, a Jeep with proper tires actually does pretty well in the snow. Mine is VERY predictable, especially after taking it out in snow/ice to see what it would do (yes, it was playing, but I was wanting to see what it would do so I was prepared).

I initially bought my TJ for my daughter. But we found out the previous owner had removed the sway bar in front, so it was pretty darned tippy. We got her a Civic which she drove until 2007 when she was t-boned. That accident could have been a lot worse - the Civic's side integrity totally failed. Given that she was sitting a lot lower, she would have been killed if hit on passenger side. In the Jeep, I have no doubts she would have been injured a lot less due to the elevated seat height, TJ frame, and side rails we have installed.

As a parent, I'd feel comfortable with my kids in a properly equipped Jeep (with safety and suspension equipment being good to go). In fact, both my kids learned to drive on my Jeep and are pretty good drivers for the most part.

fkranich23 08-14-2013 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by KevinNJ (Post 4076919)
You're going about it all wrong...start with pushing for a motorcycle, preferably the fastest production crotch rocket out there. By the time you beat them up with that idea a jeep will look great!

This guy is a genius! :rofl:

western196611 08-14-2013 09:58 AM

Tell them your not wanting a gun... cause you it will shoot your eye out. A jeep wont do that.

incizion 08-14-2013 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Ole4Cyli (Post 4075988)
It's a hobby that's character building, and you'll have no money left over to spend on drugs.

I litterally just lold at work at this one. :rofl:

wasomma 08-14-2013 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Ole4Cyli (Post 4075988)
It's a hobby that's character building, and you'll have no money left over to spend on drugs.

Haha yesssss

mckey73 08-14-2013 10:09 AM

Ask for a van, then tell them you got a new girlfriend.

McDaniel 08-14-2013 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by KevinNJ (Post 4076919)
You're going about it all wrong...start with pushing for a motorcycle, preferably the fastest production crotch rocket out there. By the time you beat them up with that idea a jeep will look great!


This is very smart- great mind working here.

dukedallas 08-14-2013 01:17 PM

Tell them to read up about the Menendez Bros. case.

Ole4Cyli 08-14-2013 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by mckey73 (Post 4077091)
ask for a van, then tell them you got a new girlfriend.

shag-wagon!

4Jeepn 08-14-2013 01:24 PM

Few questions:
1. what don't your parents like about the jeep?
2. new or used?
3. what do they think you should get?

tabber02 08-14-2013 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by 4Jeepn (Post 4077855)
Few questions:
1. what don't your parents like about the jeep?
2. new or used?
3. what do they think you should get?


^^ :thumb: best advice you're going to get. you have to fight fire with fire so to speak... to put your parents minds at ease. i have a 16 (and an 8) year old daughter... she also wants a wrangler.. namely mine... :nonono: well, that ain't happening. her own, happily. i would prefer that she purchased a newer model so i don't have to work on it all the time.

but i know they are safe. i know my daughter isn't a speed freak, and most importantly, i know she won't be using the phone while she's driving...

Dr. Evil 08-14-2013 03:15 PM

I consider myself a very level headed individual and parent of two boys (13 and 16). I have a 2010 JK and my sons love Jeeps. Initially my wife had all of the fear in her head that you hear by the misinformed. After posting this question on this forum and reading the responses by those who know better, I am happy to say my son is the proud owner of a 2003 TJ. PM me if you want me to answer any questions your folks might have.

Applejacks16 08-14-2013 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Ole4Cyli (Post 4077849)

shag-wagon!

You know my dad sold a 2001 GMC Yukon XL for that reason. Haha

Applejacks16 08-14-2013 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by 4Jeepn (Post 4077855)
Few questions:
1. what don't your parents like about the jeep?
2. new or used?
3. what do they think you should get?

1. They think me and my friends will be rowdy and wreck less
2. Used 2006
3. My moms first was a VW Jetta and she thinks that would be perfect for me

mason93 08-14-2013 03:35 PM

My buddy was driving in highway traffic and got cut off. He swerved to avoid the car and ended up rolling over in a ditch. He took his seat belt off, kicked his windshield out and walked away with only a few scratches.

The whole unsafe thing really holds no weight anymore. Show them the one your interested in, take them to see it/test drive it etc.

Edit because you posted the same time I did

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Originally Posted by Applejacks16 (Post 4078289)
2. Used 2006
3. My moms first was a VW Jetta and she thinks that would be perfect for me

Is it a 4.0? they are very reliable, easy to work on, and parts are plentiful. Jettas, they may be a safe vehicle im not sure, but repair costs on VW are more then jeeps. Idk if you plan on doing things yourself or paying someone to do it; but IMO either way youd be spending more money for regular maintenance in a VW.

IncendiaryWit 08-14-2013 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Applejacks16 (Post 4078289)

1. They think me and my friends will be rowdy and wreck less
2. Used 2006
3. My moms first was a VW Jetta and she thinks that would be perfect for me

I don't know about the Jetta, but if it is like the wife's Beetle parts are expensive and a major pain to replace if things break. I don't seem to have that problem with my Jeep.

KevinNJ 08-14-2013 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Applejacks16 (Post 4078289)
1. They think me and my friends will be rowdy and wreck less

If they think you'll wreck less in a jeep, then it sounds like you got them sold:hide:

JacobL 08-14-2013 04:15 PM

I just turned 16 a couple months ago and ha to do the same thing to my parents. I told them its a jeep.. It doesn't go fast and i will drive careful so it doesn't flip over. And if it flips off road then at least i was having fun. They bought it and now they like it more than i do i think haha

Ole4Cyli 08-14-2013 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Applejacks16 (Post 4078289)
1. They think me and my friends will be rowdy and wreck less
2. Used 2006
3. My moms first was a VW Jetta and she thinks that would be perfect for me

1. Being wreckless in a Jeep takes close to no brains because it's your car so you love it, and you know if you roll it you're in trouble. You seem smart enough to not take a corner in 4th.
2. Any year of a TJ is a great first vehicle!
3. Idk that's your opinion.

I'm still 16 and I got my 98 TJ at the beginning of this year and it's been the best thing that I've decided to do. It's practical for what I like to do, I've done all the work on it because it's relatively easy. And all my friends love it! My parents had doubts about it too, but eventually they decided to see how it went. Both of them love it now! We go to the beach in it, dad sometimes helps me with work on it, and in all honesty it's given me more constructive time working on it, rather than wasting time sitting around on Xbox or the computer. I also have 5 other friends whose first vehicles are Jeeps, and they're the same way! If you're serious about wanting a Jeep, hopefully they'll see that it's a good decision, because it can turn out to be an awesome experience!


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