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denisbaldwin 08-17-2013 06:18 AM

Thinking of selling.. what's it worth?
 
It's with a heavy heart that I'm considering selling my YJ. I've put so much work into it and an insane amount of money (probably $13-14k at this point) but I'm finding that I simply don't have the time to enjoy it anymore. The nearest offroad advertures to me are 2+ hours away, my son is about to be born (in the next few days, most likely) and I'm still working 70+ hours a week (with no sign of that changing). Seems I'm probably best off just selling it, using whatever cash I get out of it to pay off some medical bills for my new family and waiting until I move out west in 2018 to start fresh on a Jeep or buggy.

So, knowing that I really don't want to sell it and knowing that I'll never even get close to what I have into it out of it, what do you think it's worth? Most of the specs are in my signature. About 115k miles on the body/frame. About 5k miles on it since the motor refresh and transplant. Comes with everything needed to do the V8 install (including the adapters, SM465 trans, another NP231J with upgraded internals, etc). It's not like I *need* to sell it, but if I were to entertain offers, what do you think it's worth?

Denis

harleydragon 08-17-2013 06:47 AM

probably just get enough to piss you off.especially with the 4 cylinder in it.if you don't need to sell it then just hold on to it.down the road you will probably be glad that you did.I wish I still had most every jeep or harley that I did tons of work to over the years and most every one of them would be worth a lot more today than I sold them for..just my opinion

DILLIGAF 08-17-2013 06:56 AM

Dennis, just moth ball it for a while, things change with time, in a couple of months your life may change, you never know. Also It just depends on how much you can get for it.

denisbaldwin 08-17-2013 07:08 AM

Harley - You're probably right about the whole "just enough to piss me off". I had a tire kicker come by yesterday and offer me $500 for it. When I told him that the winch itself was worth more than that, he gave me the "But it's CASH!" I told him to kindly bugger off.

I guess I'll just shelf it for a while unless someone gives me a good price for it. Realistically, I'm not seeing the V8 ones sell here for more than the stock ones (even with 1 ton axles!), so I'll probably just set it aside and do the V8 install in the spring. I really wish my job would get around to opening our west office so I could move and take it with me. I'd get a lot more use out of it in the mountains than I do here in the flatlands of Florida.

JD95YJ 08-17-2013 07:09 AM

Don't do it. Drain the fluids take out the battery and store it for a while and get a lil beater vehicle if need be. You'll kick yourself for the rest of your life if you do sell it at this point. Way too much money, blood, sweat in it.

harleydragon 08-17-2013 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by denisbaldwin (Post 4088799)
Harley - You're probably right about the whole "just enough to piss me off". I had a tire kicker come by yesterday and offer me $500 for it. When I told him that the winch itself was worth more than that, he gave me the "But it's CASH!" I told him to kindly bugger off.

I guess I'll just shelf it for a while unless someone gives me a good price for it. Realistically, I'm not seeing the V8 ones sell here for more than the stock ones (even with 1 ton axles!), so I'll probably just set it aside and do the V8 install in the spring. I really wish my job would get around to opening our west office so I could move and take it with me. I'd get a lot more use out of it in the mountains than I do here in the flatlands of Florida.

I am not that far from you ( I am 60 miles north of Tallahassee)..On yj's i get my best price for a stock or near stock with 6 cylinder,automatic..hard top always helps..4 cylinder always hurts..highly modified usually hurts unless it is a full blown v8 with 1 tons.I can usually get a pretty good price for a nice one but it takes a long time for the right person to come along..even then if I figured the time I have in them I would probably make less than a dollar per hour..

87 Florida YJ 08-17-2013 07:28 AM

Relax friend. Now is not the time to even be thinking of selling your jeep. Wether you know it or not, in a few days your life is going to change in ways you cannot even begin to fathom and they are all good. Maybe you think you know whats about to happen to your world but trust me you are clueless. The very moment you look at your new best friend there are all of these cool "daddy files" that are going to download in your brain and Denis is going to be a new man. Happens in an instant. Don't do anything until after the download then you will understand what I'm saying. Congratulations and keep us posted.

jp2611 08-17-2013 07:32 AM

FWIW a woman at work bought a '13 JK since she came back from deployment.....she had a '95 Yj "Rio Grande" bone stock. It had a "rebuilt tranny" but that was about it as for repairs. Seats were split, very bad rust, small tires and needed a new top. Just out for grins I clicked it in to computer to find out what it was worth. The "Net" said $3700.
IMO that was way high.....and I did talk to her about it, because people were asking me if the Jeep was worth buying. It is a 4cyl with over 100K. I didn't want to bad mouth the Jeep but also didn't want to give bad info. She asked $2900....and had people coming out of the wood work to talk about it she sold it after about 2 days to someone else at work. A little background we have about 750 people where I work and it is an average factory, annual pay between 40K-60K a year.

As I told her it is worth what someone will pay you for it, sell it for however much you are comfortable taking for it. If that isn't possible mothball it, or strip parts off of it and part it out. Will take longer but might get more money that way.

denisbaldwin 08-17-2013 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by harleydragon (Post 4088819)
even then if I figured the time I have in them I would probably make less than a dollar per hour..

For sure, and I never considered my time as I always did it "just for fun". I don't even think I'd break even on parts, or even come close to half for that matter.

denisbaldwin 08-17-2013 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by JD95YJ (Post 4088804)
Don't do it. Drain the fluids take out the battery and store it for a while and get a lil beater vehicle if need be. You'll kick yourself for the rest of your life if you do sell it at this point. Way too much money, blood, sweat in it.

Considering I only drive the Jeep about 2-3 days a month, that might not be a bad call. I drive my Miata or my Mazda3 more often than not and I'm probably only 6 months from finishing my rat rod, which will probably only get driven as much as the Jeep.

Denis

denisbaldwin 08-17-2013 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by 87 Florida YJ (Post 4088827)
The very moment you look at your new best friend there are all of these cool "daddy files" that are going to download in your brain and Denis is going to be a new man. Happens in an instant. Don't do anything until after the download then you will understand what I'm saying. Congratulations and keep us posted.

I hope you're right. I have all of these grand plans of my little boy working with me on a car project will eventually be his first car. Who knows, though. He might not be into cars and all and just want to be a bum or whatever.

denisbaldwin 08-17-2013 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by jp2611 (Post 4088841)
If that isn't possible mothball it, or strip parts off of it and part it out. Will take longer but might get more money that way.

Definitely wouldn't want to part it out, especially after just putting something like 150 hours into building it. I guess I'll just park it in my lawn and let grass grow up around it :D

I just wish I had more land so I could put it in long term storage. My 1 car garage and 2 parking spots are always filled with 4 vehicles and I have zero back yard so I have to find a place to put it.

Denis

87 Florida YJ 08-17-2013 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by denisbaldwin (Post 4088891)
I just wish I had more land so I could put it in long term storage

Just because I like you.....here's a solution. How about if I babysit the jeep for you for a couple of years? When you want it back just come get it. When you want to visit just drive over. My girlfriend loves your jeep so we would actually be killing two birds with one stone:dance:

yammerschooner 08-17-2013 08:45 AM

I had life changes in 2006 that pretty much squashed driving mine. About a month ago I decided I finally have time again and am currently pulling it out of mothballs. I put in a new battery and fired it up. It was driven maybe three or so times a year for a while, and none for the last three years.

Being on this end of the calendar, I'm glad I kept it. Getting rid of it weighed pretty heavily in the options in 2006. The main reasons I kept it was because it was paid for and, as harley said, worth "just enough to piss me off".

denisbaldwin 08-17-2013 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by 87 Florida YJ (Post 4088950)
My girlfriend loves your jeep so we would actually be killing two birds with one stone:dance:

We might be able to work out a loaner program where you get my Jeep for a bit and I get your girlfriend for a bit... :whistling: J/K

denisbaldwin 08-17-2013 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by yammerschooner (Post 4088978)
The main reasons I kept it was because it was paid for and, as harley said, worth "just enough to piss me off".

Even thinking about it makes me pissed off :banghead:

I guess it's most frustrating to me because, while I don't need to sell it, I also know that I could dump another $8000 into it before I'm truly happy with it..and then I've got a $20,000 rig that's worth $8000 and I'm even more pissed off :doh:

Denis

harleydragon 08-17-2013 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by denisbaldwin (Post 4088993)
Even thinking about it makes me pissed off :banghead:

I guess it's most frustrating to me because, while I don't need to sell it, I also know that I could dump another $8000 into it before I'm truly happy with it..and then I've got a $20,000 rig that's worth $8000 and I'm even more pissed off :doh:

Denis

I know you don't fit in this category but that is why I try to advise these guys just starting out to take their time and decide exactly what they want before they start modifying.By the time you upgrade one several times you have a fortune in it.doing it once is much cheaper.the only way you will ever break even on yours is through the enjoyment you have with it.either that or more or less give it away now then kick yourself in the butt down the road

denisbaldwin 08-17-2013 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by harleydragon (Post 4089034)
I know you don't fit in this category but that is why I try to advise these guys just starting out to take their time and decide exactly what they want before they start modifying.By the time you upgrade one several times you have a fortune in it.doing it once is much cheaper.the only way you will ever break even on yours is through the enjoyment you have with it.either that or more or less give it away now then kick yourself in the butt down the road

For sure. I guess I didn't realize how big I wanted to go until I already hit my plateau. I'm ok riding on what I'm doing now, but I really want to move to built one tons and put 44s under it. :D

JD95YJ 08-17-2013 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by denisbaldwin (Post 4089094)
For sure. I guess I didn't realize how big I wanted to go until I already hit my plateau. I'm ok riding on what I'm doing now, but I really want to move to built one tons and put 44s under it. :D

See there.. future father/son project :thumb: and you still have a sweet rig to wheel in the meantime (when you can find time).. I'm pretty much in the same boat as you. My son is due in October and I was trying to get my YJ "completed" for now until I realized I needed a new trans.. So it'll sit until I can afford to fix it. I sold my last YJ about 5 years ago and I had done a lot to it, but not nearly as much as you've done to yours. Needless to say, I've seriously regretted it ever since.:banghead: If I could find the guy I sold it to, I'd do whatever I could to buy it back :nonono: And I will never consider selling my current YJ (or future jeeps) due to this..

denisbaldwin 08-17-2013 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by JD95YJ (Post 4089390)
See there.. future father/son project :thumb:

HAH! My wife has made it very clear that my kid is never to ride in "that death trap". :D

We'll see, though. Hopefully he starts walking soon enough and is into wrenching on things.

harleydragon 08-17-2013 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by denisbaldwin (Post 4089424)
HAH! My wife has made it very clear that my kid is never to ride in "that death trap". :D

We'll see, though. Hopefully he starts walking soon enough and is into wrenching on things.

before my son could even walk good,he was rolling around in his little walker,helping me wrench on harleys with his plastic tools..when he was 6 or 8 and I would pick him up at school on my chopper he thought he was the coolest thing on campus (the other kids did too ).when he was 10, I took him to my welding shop and put him to work.at 16 he was about as good a welder as you could find.now at 32 he has been running a company for over 10 years,in some fields knows a lot more than I do and is a damn good father,husband and man..Yes,I am a very proud father and I am sure you will be too.

denisbaldwin 08-17-2013 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by harleydragon (Post 4089463)
Yes,I am a very proud father and I am sure you will be too.

That's awesome! I just hope he's not lazy, or self absorbed, or lacking ambition. To me, if he goes out and finds something he's passionate about, then I'm cool with that. Got to get him out of mama's belly first :D

Denis

harleydragon 08-17-2013 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by denisbaldwin (Post 4089473)
That's awesome! I just hope he's not lazy, or self absorbed, or lacking ambition. To me, if he goes out and finds something he's passionate about, then I'm cool with that. Got to get him out of mama's belly first :D

Denis

Denis,he will be exactly what you teach him to be.what you tell him and what he sees you doing will mold him.if you are a honest man with morals that works hard then chances are that he will be too.each of my kids could count on one hand the number of times I ever spanked them.But,they knew I would snatch their little ass up in a heart beat so that was enough.They also knew they could come to me with any problem and together we could solve it.if you do a good job then in years to come it will make you a thousand times more proud than the finest jeep you ever build

denisbaldwin 10-03-2013 07:31 AM

After lots of heming and hawing about should I see it/should I not sell it, I decided to put it up on Craigslist. The price is high, and intentionally so. We'll see if there's any bites. It's not like I'm in a hurry to sell.

Built Jeep Wrangler, over $23k invested in parts alone!

harleydragon 10-03-2013 07:39 AM

yeah,it usually takes a while for the right person to see something that is totally custom..you might even change your mind before that person comes along..good luck

wasomma 10-03-2013 07:53 AM

good luck man, hopefully the market is good to you.

denisbaldwin 10-03-2013 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by harleydragon (Post 5051681)
yeah,it usually takes a while for the right person to see something that is totally custom..you might even change your mind before that person comes along..good luck

My thoughts exactly. It might sell, it might not. Someone might come up with a neat trade idea. I dunno. I know I'm definitely not giving it away either way.

Surfinglbi23 10-03-2013 01:36 PM

Good luck with the sale! I've enjoyed following your build.

denisbaldwin 10-03-2013 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Surfinglbi23 (Post 5060209)
Good luck with the sale! I've enjoyed following your build.

After the feedback I've gotten both in response to the sale ad in calls and also from someone on a local facebook community that posted about it, it looks like I'll have the Jeep for a while. The general consensus has been that despite all the high end parts with receipts, my Jeep is only going to fetch a grand or so (at best). Thus, I'm just going to wait it out.

In the meantime, I'm probably going to try to find hard doors for it (to complete it), throw some cash into finishing the gauges and wiring and park it at my work in one of our storage locations. If the right buyer comes along, cool. If not, I'll just wait it out.

Denis

cosmokramer 10-03-2013 03:28 PM

I agree don't sell it. However you should be able to get way more than a grand for it. If you need the cash, consider parting it out. If you keep it, try to continue to keep up the maintenance and run it around once a month at least to keep it healthy.


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