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LeatherneckYJ 08-21-2013 05:50 PM

Start of DIY paint YJ
 
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So after reading a post about a guy doing his charger, I decided to try this out myself. I decided to go Rustoleum Hunter Green for color. My YJ had bad clear coat and was pretty eaten up by the salty air of NC. So..... I am trying this roll on method with wet sanding. I figured I will keep posting results as they come in the event someone wants to try this. Keep in mind, I am a novice painter and the YJ will require some additional body work.... But, for a budget, initial results are promising. It has also given me a chance to pull off all the accessories and spray paint them OEM color. Hopefully my 4k toy will turn out nice when it is all said and done. Like I said, this is day one (one coat). Day 2 is drying now...


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LeatherneckYJ 08-21-2013 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherneckYJ (Post 4105743)
So after reading a post about a guy doing his charger, I decided to try this out myself. I decided to go Rustoleum Hunter Green for color. My YJ had bad clear coat and was pretty eaten up by the salty air of NC. So..... I am trying this roll on method with wet sanding. I figured I will keep posting results as they come in the event someone wants to try this. Keep in mind, I am a novice painter and the YJ will require some additional body work.... But, for a budget, initial results are promising. It has also given me a chance to pull off all the accessories and spray paint them OEM color. Hopefully my 4k toy will turn out nice when it is all said and done. Like I said, this is day one (one coat). Day 2 is drying now...


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Also, in these pics I have not wet sanded yet....

brachilius 08-21-2013 06:03 PM

I am curious to see how this turns out. I am doing a rattle can paint job using gloss enamel. I put 5 coats on. A little orange peel but not bad. I am going to polish it tonight.

RogueJeep 08-21-2013 06:05 PM

I was going to paint my jeep a new color aswell, was wondering what steps needed to be taken and whatnot. Cannot wait to see final result!

LeatherneckYJ 08-21-2013 06:36 PM

One thing I should mention is the amount of time it takes to do this..... The original posts makes it seems as if only a few hours here and there.... false. I unwittingly committed this entire week to this project. You for sure need the 24 hour cure period for the paint. My initial wet sanding proved this thought process.... Also, I am not doing the inside of the tub since I will be doing that later with rhino liner. I am not convinced that this will come out as good as the original post made it sound... but he was also a pro painter outside this type of project. I am watching YouTube videos for techniques (esp wet sanding), which I highly recommend.

It was about 90 today in eastern NC.... so about 120 in the garage (it felt like). The humidity seems like it is slowing the drying process, I have no idea though...

Next project is replacing the slow leaking RMS....

I just got this thing..... it has been nothing but hard work but I cannot wait to get it on a scenic trail or take it hunting once I get to CA.

harleydragon 08-21-2013 06:49 PM

not trying to rain on your parade at all and I wish you the best of lucky but my question is why ? A traditional paint job with urethane and a paint gun would be a lot less work and probably look better too.

LeatherneckYJ 08-21-2013 08:41 PM

Easy. Budget number 1 (military doesn't pay all that great). Second, I am limited on supplies. Maybe one day I will have the coin to get it done right. Or, at the very least, I will get it done right if I mess it up too bad. :)

LeatherneckYJ 08-21-2013 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by RogueJeep (Post 4105780)
I was going to paint my jeep a new color aswell, was wondering what steps needed to be taken and whatnot. Cannot wait to see final result!


read this thread. It can be found in multiple forums also.

How to paint your car for $50 - beyond.ca car forums community for automotive enthusiasts

LeatherneckYJ 08-21-2013 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by brachilius (Post 4105774)
I am curious to see how this turns out. I am doing a rattle can paint job using gloss enamel. I put 5 coats on. A little orange peel but not bad. I am going to polish it tonight.


Please post what your results are as well. If I mess up, this will be my next attempt, I think..... Good luck! Are you using polishing compound?

harleydragon 08-21-2013 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherneckYJ (Post 4106286)
Easy. Budget number 1 (military doesn't pay all that great). Second, I am limited on supplies. Maybe one day I will have the coin to get it done right. Or, at the very least, I will get it done right if I mess it up too bad. :)

when I went in at the tail end of nam my pay as an e1 was $326 a month before taxes so I can remember..but,when I was in ,most every base had a hobby shop..most of ours in the navy had paint boothes as well as sanders,paint guns and most everything you needed for free.all we had to furnish was materials and supplys..me and a buddy supplemented our navy pay by doing paintjobs for others

87 Florida YJ 08-21-2013 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by harleydragon (Post 4106362)
when I went in at the tail end of nam my pay as an e1 was $326 a month before taxes so I can remember..but,when I was in ,most every base had a hobby shop..most of ours in the navy had paint boothes as well as sanders,paint guns and most everything you needed for free.all we had to furnish was materials and supplys..me and a buddy supplemented our navy pay by doing paintjobs for others

Nam my ass....it was when you went in at the end of the Civil War:rofl:

harleydragon 08-21-2013 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by 87 Florida YJ (Post 4106384)
Nam my ass....it was when you went in at the end of the Civil War:rofl:

I wish...instead of that statue of Lincoln sitting in a chair in Washington D.C. it would be Jeff Davis or Robert E. Lee

87 Florida YJ 08-21-2013 09:19 PM

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I wish...instead of that statue of Lincoln sitting in a chair in Washington D.C. it would be Robert E. Lee

You guys are never going to get past that will you? I bet you're playing Dixie on your 8 track in the garage when you are building jeeps. Over and over and over

harleydragon 08-21-2013 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by 87 Florida YJ (Post 4106479)
You guys are never going to get past that will you? I bet you're playing Dixie on your 8 track in the garage when you are building jeeps. Over and over and over

8 track broke but I taught Junelle all the words and she has a great voice:thumb:

87 Florida YJ 08-21-2013 10:31 PM

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8 track broke but I taught Junelle all the words and she has a great voice:thumb:

Wait. You had to teach her the words to Dixie????? Don't tell me she came from the land of fruits and nuts on the west coast. Or even worse......she's a Yankee right?

harleydragon 08-22-2013 06:50 AM

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Wait. You had to teach her the words to Dixie????? Don't tell me she came from the land of fruits and nuts on the west coast. Or even worse......she's a Yankee right?

well,that's one of the few things that we ever disagree on.she thinks she is southern because she is from Tennessee.But,to me,anything north of the south side of Macon,Ga is yankee land..while they are in the south,land boundary wise,most don't have the old southern way of thinking..I tease her all the time about things like,high society city girls liking to take a walk on the wild side sometimes with one of us old outlaws..

incizion 08-22-2013 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by harleydragon (Post 4106362)
when I went in at the tail end of nam my pay as an e1 was $326 a month before taxes so I can remember..but,when I was in ,most every base had a hobby shop..most of ours in the navy had paint boothes as well as sanders,paint guns and most everything you needed for free.all we had to furnish was materials and supplys..me and a buddy supplemented our navy pay by doing paintjobs for others

Army too, Some have paint booths, some don't but I spent alot of time in them.

87 Florida YJ 08-22-2013 07:52 AM

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.....high society city girls liking to take a walk on the wild side sometimes with one of us old outlaws..

My brother, I've been working that angle successfully my whole life. I dont know why but thereis just some kind of magnetism that draws very classy ladies to walk over to the dark side with men that they know will have their back in any situation. I think it's just that we play by rules as we see them and don't ever ever insult our women. Must be that daddy-protector thing they have.

LeatherneckYJ 08-22-2013 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by incizion (Post 4107344)
Army too, Some have paint booths, some don't but I spent alot of time in them.


We have the facilities too, but I am cheap.... I have a rear main seal to replace as well. Anyone done this job? Easy or no? I am pretty confident in my mechanical abilities.

Doch80 08-22-2013 03:15 PM

Why didn't you take your flares off?

wasomma 08-22-2013 03:36 PM

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Why didn't you take your flares off?

I was going to ask as well. If you ever decide to upgrade your flares (and by upgrade I mean remove) it's gonna be a funky two tone

LeatherneckYJ 08-22-2013 07:54 PM

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I was going to ask as well. If you ever decide to upgrade your flares (and by upgrade I mean remove) it's gonna be a funky two tone

Yeah I thought that too... However I loosened them up enough to expose to spots where the roller would miss. Also, this is my cheap toy that I want to save money for the good stuff down the road. If I like this rig enough, maybe I will get something better... who knows.

LeatherneckYJ 08-22-2013 09:50 PM

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Day 2 prior to wet sanding. I am starting to think this is going to look ok, but not great. Who knows once I buff it out. But I am not sure how one could make this look similar to a rattle job like the original thread made it sound. I kinda wish I would have taken the fender flares off, but oh well.... the paint dries crazy slow even with a good amount of thinner. Could be the NC humidity, who knows...

Anyways, sometime this century I will be done. Only a couple more coats or so...:punk:

bajajohn 08-23-2013 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherneckYJ (Post 4110328)
Day 2 prior to wet sanding. I am starting to think this is going to look ok, but not great. Who knows once I buff it out. But I am not sure how one could make this look similar to a rattle job like the original thread made it sound. I kinda wish I would have taken the fender flares off, but oh well.... the paint dries crazy slow even with a good amount of thinner. Could be the NC humidity, who knows...

Anyways, sometime this century I will be done. Only a couple more coats or so...:punk:



I really like that Green. If you get Crazy and decide to sell that Grille I would buy it. I am in Ensenada.

LeatherneckYJ 08-25-2013 09:41 PM

Day 3 results
 
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So..... It looks pretty decent for the price. I am not 100 percent convinced someone with time constraints or a genuine disdain for painting should take this on.


I do have a question for someone out there.... I have been wet sanding as directed. However, it seems to dull the finish and make a cloudy appearance. I am using 1000 grit. Also, it is rubbing off some paint. I am letting it dry the full 24 hours as directed on the can. Is it possible the heat, combined with humidity, will require longer drying? I am afraid to give it a total sanding.... I am following the sanding directions to a T. The paint looks good as is, but who can see some roller marks and orange peel effect.

Any suggestions?

harleydragon 08-26-2013 07:30 AM

it is rubbing off some paint..that is the whole idea of the sanding,to smooth the surface.to try to get rid of the cloudy look you can try polishing compound after you have it sanded smooth but it will take a lot of elbow grease and probably will never have a really good shine..all this is why I tried to talk you into doing a traditional paint job in the first place

harleydragon 08-26-2013 07:53 AM

back before urethane we used lacquer to get that super shine and mile deep look.because it involved so much sanding I didn't use it on cars but have done many paint jobs on motorcycles with lacquer..first you would paint the color paint and sand it perfectly smooth with 1000.then you would start stacking clear on it.I would spray 3 light coats of clear,let it sit until the next day,then sand it perfectly smooth and put 3 more coats on it.of course the sanding took the majority of what I had sprayed the day before off but it left a little and it was perfectly smooth for the next coats.I might do this day after day for an entire month.I would have sanded the majority of the paint off but by stacking the coats on absolutely smooth surfaces is what gave it the shine and the depth.I guess that is the reason I dislike sanding any more than necessary so much.with urethane you can get near that same finish with much much less work plus it holds up better than lacquer..I love it

LeatherneckYJ 08-26-2013 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by harleydragon (Post 4121125)
back before urethane we used lacquer to get that super shine and mile deep look.because it involved so much sanding I didn't use it on cars but have done many paint jobs on motorcycles with lacquer..first you would paint the color paint and sand it perfectly smooth with 1000.then you would start stacking clear on it.I would spray 3 light coats of clear,let it sit until the next day,then sand it perfectly smooth and put 3 more coats on it.of course the sanding took the majority of what I had sprayed the day before off but it left a little and it was perfectly smooth for the next coats.I might do this day after day for an entire month.I would have sanded the majority of the paint off but by stacking the coats on absolutely smooth surfaces is what gave it the shine and the depth.I guess that is the reason I dislike sanding any more than necessary so much.with urethane you can get near that same finish with much much less work plus it holds up better than lacquer..I love it

My "rustoleum $50 roll-on paint job"

this is one of the links I am looking at... I guess I will just have to trust in the techniques and hope for the best. I guess at the end of the day, worst case scenario is I am out 50 bucks and have sanded my rig down for a traditional paint job.

ddtt225 08-26-2013 08:31 AM

your grit is to rough...for a flawless finish ( used to work in a body shop ) apply your coats one by one, sand it with 1600 grit, you want it to be smooth and not rough when your sanding to keep it from clouding up. once you get the disired look pass one more time with your 1600-1200 grit sand paper, you can use a rotary sander as long as you dont press to hard to tear the paint. afterwards you should be fine to buff and polish it.

ddtt225 08-26-2013 08:34 AM

dont forget the clear coat either, left that out...It would have been easier to rent a small compressor and buy a cheap paint gun from harbor freight (do they have those out there?)


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