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91yjkid 08-22-2013 04:26 PM

why should you swap ford 8.8 under your yj?
 
why should you swap the ford 8.8 in the rear?

whats wrong with the stock d35??

whats better about the ford 8.8?

thanks

jokerchief462 08-22-2013 04:46 PM

Three times the strength and if you pick the right year disc brakes.

If you lift and put bigger tires on it you have outclassed the Dana 35. The stick axles is real good don't get me wrong and we have this thread regularly. I have not broken mine but just finishing my swap.

When you get the two side by side you will instantly see the difference.

Ghost_rader 08-22-2013 08:40 PM

I want to swap my d35 out but I can't justify it since I dumped so much into it. Just a FYI, don't try to pop the clutch to do a burnout at 2500 rpm on pavement with 33's lol it will break something. So far I have replaced complete carrier with spiders and now after a burnout in the gravel, a ring and pinion gear. I should have just done it before dumping any cash in it.

Defcon 1 08-22-2013 08:57 PM

The 8.8 is stronger even than the D44. It's (almost) the same width as the D35, so it's a basic swap with some minor welding. Same wheel bolt pattern too, no adaptors needed to keep your rims. Plus, you can get them with disk brakes, a good upgrade when you run bigger meats. Parts are everywhere for them. They also come in a variety of R&P sizes, so you can maintain your gear ratio without swapping out the front axle R&P.

I just picked up one last week after shopping for months. I'm excited to get it ready because it's necessary for the plans I have for my Jeep down the road. The D35 has already failed me on several occasions, I don't trust it for what I want my Jeep to be in a few years lol.

YJ fanatic 08-22-2013 09:22 PM

+1 to everything everyone else has said. Just looking at them side by side, you can see a huge difference in size. The D35 is literally a toothpick compared to the 8.8. And you can get disc brakes, limited slip, and can keep your same rims.

BAP 08-22-2013 09:52 PM

what years have the posi., and disc brakes ???

thanks im interested, in the change myself, i only run 33s now but would,nt want to risk 35s with my little 2.5 5 speed will be all the strain on her that i want to go for now,,,,and down the road when i fit my v8 in it,s place i will be ready..

skinnywateryj 08-22-2013 10:06 PM

Alright so how can I find out what year Explorers came with disc brakes, limited slip, & all the other goodies?

rykemc 08-22-2013 10:15 PM

95-01 4drs and up till 02 on the 2dr sorts. 4dr sport tracs were drum brakes. Could get LSD in any and all of those year models.

kywaterman 08-22-2013 10:19 PM

Check out this thread for the gear ratios you have to have the original vehicle it came out of though to find out by this method
Explorer and Ranger Door Sticker Axle Codes Deciphered - Ford Explorer & Ranger Resource "Serious Explorations"
Another way is to look at the tag on the differential if its there. Then lastly removing the cover and counting the teeth on the gears.
Most the time the way I understand the ones with the trailer package came with lsd and 4.10

jokerchief462 08-22-2013 11:20 PM

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Search Ford 8.8 there are a ton of threads here and other forums with pictures, part numbers, 8.8 ID info its all on the web plug it into google and spend a few hours doing the homework. Hopefully I will be done next weekend just got my driveshafts back from the shop so I have to work brakes, e-brake install cables and my steering upgrade.

AllMudd 08-22-2013 11:30 PM

Here ya go, and wasomma don't beat me to the punch this time I'm looking for it
http://www.jedi.com/obiwan/jeep/ford88.html

StanF 08-23-2013 06:27 AM

It's a great swap, but I've got a biased opinion, since I'm just starting the swap!

Take a look at my build thread:
Yet-another-ford-8-8-swap with-extras

I have a long list of reasons why I chose the 8.8.

If you scroll down to post #9, I have a bunch of good links on 8.8 swaps.

bajonesy77 08-23-2013 08:13 AM

8.8 dana 35 physical size difference side by side!............http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l2...nsphone026.jpg

http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l2...nsphone025.jpg

jokerchief462 08-23-2013 08:45 AM

When you see the size difference in the axle tubes it usually answers the question.

wasomma 08-23-2013 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by AllMudd (Post 4110700)
Here ya go, and wasomma don't beat me to the punch this time I'm looking for it
Ford 8.8 Axle in YJ

haha

wasomma 08-23-2013 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Defcon 1 (Post 4110164)
The 8.8 is stronger even than the D44.

Are you sure that is the case? I know the 8.8 is at least very close either way.


**EDIT** Did some research, it is in fact stronger but not by a whole lot, the 8.8 is however significantly larger

AllMudd 08-23-2013 10:46 AM

Forgot to post this last night.

89Saharagreen 08-23-2013 02:13 PM

I still think the d44 is the way to go

I got mine from a rodeo

Ford is "found on roadside dead"

LOL

YJ fanatic 08-23-2013 03:20 PM

There is no reason to go with the D44 unless you like weaker axles and 2 different bolt patterns on your jeep.

AZ WRANGLER 08-25-2013 01:35 PM

I did the D44 swap, love them! Plenty of strength to handle my 310hp Chevy 5.3L. Got them off an old Wagoneer, easy swap. You can check out my write up.

89Saharagreen 08-25-2013 08:36 PM

My bolt pattern is the same on my two Dana 44s

2xs 08-25-2013 08:58 PM

Thread title makes me...
 
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Thread title makes me...

Im normally not the one to scream about the search function, but there is SO MUCH INFORMATION ON THIS AND MANY MANY OTHER FORUMS...

Got carried away here, sorry...

For that I introduce the Diane Feinstein face-palm...

BJs YJ 08-25-2013 09:07 PM

Will original driveshaft work or will a new one be needed?

AllMudd 08-25-2013 09:09 PM

My original work with the stock exploder flange.

jokerchief462 08-25-2013 09:12 PM

So far I got away with my double cardan shaft I used with the D35. It is still on jacks so I haven't driven it yet but the suspension travel checked out OK for the driveshaft.

I did have problems with rear driveshaft interfering with exhaust and the new front one.

On the rear Just had to move the muffler clamp 90 degrees to keep it off the new yoke flange.

2xs 08-25-2013 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AllMudd (Post 4120063)
My original work with the stock exploder flange.

Older YJs used 1310 U-joints, so either a spicer adaptor flange will be needed, or a "Bastard" u-joint with 1310 and 1330 combined.

NAPA stocks this at most stored, I have the Spicer joint P/N somewhere....

YJ fanatic 08-25-2013 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 89Saharagreen (Post 4119912)
My bolt pattern is the same on my two Dana 44s

Yes, but if you keep the D30 up front, it makes perfect sense to go with the 8.8. Stronger and same bolt pattern. D44s make sense if you're gonna do front and rear.

AllMudd 08-25-2013 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2xs (Post 4120163)

Older YJs used 1310 U-joints, so either a spicer adaptor flange will be needed, or a "Bastard" u-joint with 1310 and 1330 combined.

NAPA stocks this at most stored, I have the Spicer joint P/N somewhere....

Depends on the year. 95's come stock with the 1330. So it was a no brainer.

Edit: dummy me, I see what your saying now!

1987Wrangler YJ 08-25-2013 11:21 PM

Sorry to Highjack you post here, but will my D35 break when towing? The most I will be towing is 1500-2000 lbs. I have 33s too

Ibuildembig 08-25-2013 11:26 PM

Nope, they aren't nearly as worthless as you read


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