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mang318 08-24-2013 08:39 PM

Want a Dana 44
 
So my rear pinion bearing is leaking on my Dana 35 in my 06 TJ. Since I think it's pointless to dump money into it I want to swap in a Dana 44. Where have some of you guys found your Dana 44's to swap into your jeep? I've been searching Craigslist and haven't found anything!

TJDave 08-24-2013 09:08 PM

Found my built Rubi D44 on a Jeep club website that is in my state. The previous owner was swapping in a RJ 60 in to his Jeep.

jsuggs 08-24-2013 10:39 PM

You can try this place. I have bought a lot of parts from them over the years. As with any salvage/used parts do not be scared to negotiate the price.

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mang318 08-25-2013 12:33 AM

Awesome. Thanks guys! I can't wait to find one and get it in my jeep

Owen_TJ 08-25-2013 03:14 AM

You should look into an 8.8...stronger, cheaper, easier to find

Jerry Bransford 08-25-2013 01:01 PM

Personally, I'd rather have a Dana 44 than an 8.8. Aftermarket parts are easier to come by and in a bigger selection too. Also the 8.8's bigger pumpkin hangs lower so you need a bigger tire to get the same ground clearance a D44 gives. Not to mention the 8.8 is offset a different amount compared to the transfer case so you have a compound angle at the rear driveshaft u-joints that isn't present with the D44. Not often a problem but... and if I want significantly stronger axleshafts than the 8.8 comes with, going with alloys like are in mine is easily done... and there are even 33 spline and 35 spline shafts made for the D44. :)

mang318 08-25-2013 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Jerry Bransford (Post 4118276)
Personally, I'd rather have a Dana 44 than an 8.8. Aftermarket parts are easier to come by and in a bigger selection too. Also the 8.8's bigger pumpkin hangs lower so you need a bigger tire to get the same ground clearance a D44 gives. Not to mention the 8.8 is offset a different amount compared to the transfer case so you have a compound angle at the rear driveshaft u-joints that isn't present with the D44. Not often a problem but... and if I want significantly stronger axleshafts than the 8.8 comes with, going with alloys like are in mine is easily done... and there are even 33 spline and 35 spline shafts made for the D44. :)

I'm the same way, much rather have a Dana 44. Mainly because I'm only 19 and not that mechanically wise yet. So since my dad will be guiding me to put it in, I don't want to have to weld on all kinds of new brackets for an 8.8. I have the money saved up and have always wanted a Dana 44 ever since I've had my jeep

Notoriously_rob 08-25-2013 01:18 PM

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So this is telling me a spicer 44 is available...for $1200...

Is spicer the same as dana 44

Not very knowledgeable on differentials..

Jerry Bransford 08-25-2013 01:24 PM

Spicer = Dana Spicer which is who made our TJ axles & drivetrain. :)

Notoriously_rob 08-25-2013 01:26 PM

Yea i was just reading it online- apparently i want to make sure i get an iron vice aluminum case...didnt know tjs came like that--more readin for me

Teague242 08-25-2013 01:29 PM

That's alot of money when you figure you can spend another grand and buy a superior or G2 rear that's already built and locked....

I'd go with finding a used one. It might take a little but is rather spend $600 than 1200 on getting my jeep mobile again.

NJO 08-25-2013 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Owen_TJ (Post 4117418)
You should look into an 8.8...stronger, cheaper, easier to find

Definitely not 100% true or accurate. D44's have quite a lot of advantages, including ground clearance, aftermarket support, ease of swap in, and when built up strength(check out the strength ratings when using 33 splines) is right there as well.

mang318 08-25-2013 11:01 PM

Has anybody had luck finding a Dana 44 at a junkyard? I have 2 junkyards close to my house and I'm thinking about dropping by and checking there sometime soon

Teague242 08-25-2013 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by mang318 (Post 4120224)
Has anybody had luck finding a Dana 44 at a junkyard? I have 2 junkyards close to my house and I'm thinking about dropping by and checking there sometime soon

Never heard of it. In my entire life I've seen one TJ in a junkyard before. And in the great state of PA we have the largest scrap yard in the USA.

There's a few jeep only junkyards lying around... But your best bet will probably be buyin one off of some random guy parting a jeep out!

mang318 08-25-2013 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Teague242 (Post 4120319)

Never heard of it. In my entire life I've seen one TJ in a junkyard before. And in the great state of PA we have the largest scrap yard in the USA.

There's a few jeep only junkyards lying around... But your best bet will probably be buyin one off of some random guy parting a jeep out!

Yea I figured I won't have any luck but I guess it doesn't hurt to check. I'm just going to have to be patient while searching for one

98 tj sport 08-25-2013 11:57 PM

When I was looking for mine called a local place and they said they could get one but the price was a little more than I wanted to pay. The wanted 1000 for a stock one with 3.73 gears I ended up finding one on craigslist for 700 that already had a grizzly locker in it. But I had to be diligent and check a couple times a day to find it.

mang318 08-26-2013 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by 98 tj sport (Post 4120376)
When I was looking for mine called a local place and they said they could get one but the price was a little more than I wanted to pay. The wanted 1000 for a stock one with 3.73 gears I ended up finding one on craigslist for 700 that already had a grizzly locker in it. But I had to be diligent and check a couple times a day to find it.

How long before you found it?

RevCo666 08-26-2013 12:14 AM

Not to hijack this thread but for the sakes of curiosity: what does it take to swap out a D30 in the front for a D44 to match the rear? Expensive process I imagine, would it require re-gearing(currently at 3.73)? And is it easier when you have a D44 in the back already? Just looking for some quick answers, like I said just curious...

Border Dave 08-26-2013 12:26 AM

For all your junkyard needs: Car-Part.com--Used Auto Parts Market

NJO 08-26-2013 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by RevCo666 (Post 4120426)
Not to hijack this thread but for the sakes of curiosity: what does it take to swap out a D30 in the front for a D44 to match the rear? Expensive process I imagine, would it require re-gearing(currently at 3.73)? And is it easier when you have a D44 in the back already? Just looking for some quick answers, like I said just curious...

For what size tires? 35's? Thats what the hp d30 is for. Heck with some sleeves and gussets its stout enough for 37's. The only real issue is gearing as its limit is 4.88's. An hp30 is a direct swap too and cheap.

But you can do a Dynatrac Hp D44.....its also a direct swap but the axle itself is a few grand.....but its a nice axle for sure.

RevCo666 08-26-2013 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by NJO (Post 4120546)
For what size tires? 35's? Thats what the hp d30 is for. Heck with some sleeves and gussets its stout enough for 37's. The only real issue is gearing as its limit is 4.88's. An hp30 is a direct swap too and cheap.

But you can do a Dynatrac Hp D44.....its also a direct swap but the axle itself is a few grand.....but its a nice axle for sure.

Just a hypothetical question as I have no intentions of doing this swap; I run 31x10.5R15... I just always thought it would be nice to have matching D44's. Thats why I asked...

apannone 08-26-2013 07:51 AM

I've also been thinking of picking up a D44, ideally with a 4.10 ratio. I currently have a D35 with a 3.07 ratio. If I were to find the D44 I'm looking for, is it a case where I can install it and drive, or do I need a regear?

Notoriously_rob 08-26-2013 07:59 AM

If its from a tjthen you wouldnt have to regear but the front you would

apannone 08-26-2013 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Notoriously_rob (Post 4120973)
If its from a tjthen you wouldnt have to regear but the front you would

So either way the front axle has to be regeared?

UFOtestpilot 08-26-2013 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by apannone (Post 4120998)

So either way the front axle has to be regeared?

Both axles need to be the same gearing in order to engage 4WD without an expensive and terrible experience.

Jaxon1023 08-26-2013 08:16 AM

If you ever want to use 4wd yes you will have to regear. If you just put the 44 in and don't regear it will get you down the road till you can afford to regear the front as long as you keep it in 2wd

apannone 08-26-2013 08:24 AM

Ok got it. So if I have a wrangler with a d30 and d35 with 3.07s, the d30 is geared differently in my jeep than a jeep with a d30 and d44 with 4.10 gears. Is that right? Just want to make sure I understand.

UFOtestpilot 08-26-2013 08:35 AM

Each axle has a gear ratio, and they connect to the drivetrain through the transfer case. If one has a different ratio than the other and the transfer case is engaged there will be binding that will break things, internally.

If you get a 4.10 rear axle ratio, you will need to have the front axle re-geared to 4.10 before you can safely engage (or utilize) 4WD.

apannone 08-26-2013 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by UFOtestpilot (Post 4121065)
Each axle has a gear ratio, and they connect to the drivetrain through the transfer case. If one has a different ratio than the other and the transfer case is engaged there will be binding that will break things, internally.

If you get a 4.10 rear axle ratio, you will need to have the front axle re-geared to 4.10 before you can safely engage (or utilize) 4WD.

Awesome. Got it now. Thanks!

Notoriously_rob 08-26-2013 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by UFOtestpilot (Post 4121008)

Both axles need to be the same gearing in order to engage 4WD without an expensive and terrible experience.

Thats what i meant- same gear ratio


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