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JoeRomley 08-26-2013 01:45 PM

Need help finding a part
 
I have an 88 yj 4cyl 2.5. The oil filter popped off and now when I screw on a new filter (by hand only) it pops off one the pressure builds up. The threaded nipple the filter screws on to I think is called an oil filter adapter. I cant find a replacement anywhere. Anyone have a good parts source? I'm in southern California. Is there any other option besides replacing the part?
Thanks

87 Florida YJ 08-26-2013 02:03 PM

eBay. Far too important to try to jury rig a solution.

simonclay 08-26-2013 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by 87 Florida YJ (Post 4122245)
eBay. Far too important to try to jury rig a solution.

I agree, definitely do it right. But are you sure that your oil pressure is around the correct range? It would suck to get a new threaded nipple and it not fix the problem

harleydragon 08-26-2013 04:20 PM

are you absolutely sure that you are using the correct filter

Mowrangler 08-26-2013 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by harleydragon (Post 4122661)
are you absolutely sure that you are using the correct filter

x2 those adapters are made from a whole lot stronger metal than oil filters are. If the threads look oK then you probably have the wrong oil filter or a defective one.

RednekYJ 08-26-2013 04:51 PM

I'm using an Stp s3985. I once bought a fram ph16(I think) and it didn't fit

JoeRomley 08-26-2013 05:09 PM

Im using an stp s3985 also. It the same part number I replaced. The secind new ine I put on came off as well. If I cant find an oem replacement would a filter relication kit work? Pep boys has one for $50. My oil pressure was at 45. I think when the first one came off it might have rounded the tops of the threads enough to keep the new filter secure. When I tighten it down by hand it pips and is loose again.

Mowrangler 08-26-2013 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeRomley (Post 4122838)
Im using an stp s3985 also. It the same part number I replaced. The secind new ine I put on came off as well. If I cant find an oem replacement would a filter relication kit work? Pep boys has one for $50. My oil pressure was at 45. I think when the first one came off it might have rounded the tops of the threads enough to keep the new filter secure. When I tighten it down by hand it pips and is loose again.

Sounds like the adapter is stripped check your local Jeep dealer they cant cost too much.

173ABN VN 08-26-2013 06:43 PM

I bought one from the jeep dealer,about $10.00...russ

87 Florida YJ 08-26-2013 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by 173ABN VN (Post 4123177)
I bought one from the jeep dealer,about $10.00...russ

Short money for piece of mind for sure

JoeRomley 08-26-2013 09:02 PM

If I could find the part I'd pay a lot more than $10. Called three dealers and they all said they would have to order it from Detroit. I don't care how much it costs to fix it, I just want it back on the road and running right. I unscrewed the adapter. Just a two inch threaded pipe. I'm going to go to every auto parts store I can tomorrow to find one.

CyndiB 08-26-2013 10:31 PM

I'm not sure if this is your part, but try Morris 4x4, they have one for $40
http://www.jeep4x4center.com/mopar-o...-53020080.html

JoeRomley 08-27-2013 08:19 AM

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Thanks Cyndi. This is the part I need to replace. Looks like a simple enough nipple that should be somewhere in town. The torn up threads are from me taking it out with a pair of vice grips. The tops of the threads on the filter side are a bit flattened out. I think that was what caused the filter to blow off.

87 Florida YJ 08-27-2013 08:27 AM

Probably a stupid comment but is there any change by reversing the adapter into the block those threads would catch, rethread themselves and the filter could screw into the pristine side?

JoeRomley 08-27-2013 08:44 AM

i don't want to risk damaging the threads on the adapter screwing it in. I'm going to take it down to Star Auto Parts today. They have a really good machinist who said he might be able to make me one if they can't find a replacement.

Mbclark 08-27-2013 03:47 PM

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i don't want to risk damaging the threads on the adapter screwing it in. I'm going to take it down to Star Auto Parts today. They have a really good machinist who said he might be able to make me one if they can't find a replacement.

Try JW Jeep in Sacramento, CA. They ship all over the US.

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I was able to find mine here.

JoeRomley 08-27-2013 07:55 PM

Thanks to an old man that was hanging out at Napa, I fixed it. I took the old nipple to four different stores today. When I got to Napa, two guys were looking through all the books and couldn't find the part. The old guy looked at it and told them to look up a filter conversion kit for an old Ford. I guess the old cars oil filters were different and had a bolt going through them. The conversion kit changes that out to a regular oil filter. The part that replaced the bolt in the old filter was an SAE threaded 3/4X16 nipple that fit perfectly. So, if you ever run in to this problem, try looking for that kit. It cost me $5.49. Less than ordering the OEM part from Chrysler and having to wait a week. My YJ is back on the road and I'm a happy camper.

harleydragon 08-27-2013 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeRomley (Post 4127855)
Thanks to an old man that was hanging out at Napa, I fixed it. I took the old nipple to four different stores today. When I got to Napa, two guys were looking through all the books and couldn't find the part. The old guy looked at it and told them to look up a filter conversion kit for an old Ford. I guess the old cars oil filters were different and had a bolt going through them. The conversion kit changes that out to a regular oil filter. The part that replaced the bolt in the old filter was an SAE threaded 3/4X16 nipple that fit perfectly. So, if you ever run in to this problem, try looking for that kit. It cost me $5.49. Less than ordering the OEM part from Chrysler and having to wait a week. My YJ is back on the road and I'm a happy camper.

give me an old guy that has been there and done that over these young know it all experts that have read everything in the world but have very little actual experience

Mowrangler 08-27-2013 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by harleydragon (Post 4127941)
give me an old guy that has been there and done that over these young know it all experts that have read everything in the world but have very little actual experience

Us old guys are good for something after all. :thumb:

bajajohn 08-27-2013 09:32 PM

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give me an old guy that has been there and done that over these young know it all experts that have read everything in the world but have very little actual experience








I learned early on when looking for parts for older vehicles. Look for the old guy in the parts store. If the part you are looking for doesn't have a computer reference it doesn't exist in the mind of the young guys and they will blow you off..
Jeep in the early years bought surplus parts and it was very likely the same year and model had different running gear.
One of the side benefits of that era you can do motor and drive train swaps with over the counter parts if you do the research.
one example was on a 55 Willis pickup I restored using the Willis parts # a u joint was priced 44dls. same u joint using the Chevrolet parts # was 6dls.
the Willis had a 226 cubic inch engine in it that was Made by continental engine. after I spent hours and mucho dls. rebuilding it we went to Hot August Nights in Reno. A buddy of mine that owned a forklift co. in Stockton was admiring it and when he looked at the Engine and commented Heck I have a couple of brand new ones like that in the shop I about had the big one.

CyndiB 08-27-2013 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeRomley (Post 4125395)
Thanks Cyndi. This is the part I need to replace. Looks like a simple enough nipple that should be somewhere in town. The torn up threads are from me taking it out with a pair of vice grips. The tops of the threads on the filter side are a bit flattened out. I think that was what caused the filter to blow off.

Glad you found the part. It looks to me like something you would find at the hardware store in the galvanized pipe section.

harleydragon 08-28-2013 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by bajajohn (Post 4128322)
I learned early on when looking for parts for older vehicles. Look for the old guy in the parts store. If the part you are looking for doesn't have a computer reference it doesn't exist in the mind of the young guys and they will blow you off..
Jeep in the early years bought surplus parts and it was very likely the same year and model had different running gear.
One of the side benefits of that era you can do motor and drive train swaps with over the counter parts if you do the research.
one example was on a 55 Willis pickup I restored using the Willis parts # a u joint was priced 44dls. same u joint using the Chevrolet parts # was 6dls.
the Willis had a 226 cubic inch engine in it that was Made by continental engine. after I spent hours and mucho dls. rebuilding it we went to Hot August Nights in Reno. A buddy of mine that owned a forklift co. in Stockton was admiring it and when he looked at the Engine and commented Heck I have a couple of brand new ones like that in the shop I about had the big one.

yeah..I never tried swapping them but the flathead 4 cylinders in the old lincoln welders looked exactly like the ones that I had in old willys

JoeRomley 08-28-2013 10:30 AM

Cyndi>The pitch on the thread is different from plumbing. One of the guys at autozone reccomended the same thing but it wouldnt seal properly if it woukd even screw in. I drove 45 miles to work this morning and it purred down the road beautifully. I'm a happy jeeper!

173ABN VN 08-28-2013 06:43 PM

glad you got it fixed...russ

CyndiB 08-29-2013 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by JoeRomley (Post 4130120)
Cyndi>The pitch on the thread is different from plumbing. One of the guys at autozone reccomended the same thing but it wouldnt seal properly if it woukd even screw in. I drove 45 miles to work this morning and it purred down the road beautifully. I'm a happy jeeper!

Maybe you should buy a spare in case it happens again, then you won't have to go through Jeep withdrawals.


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