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old 300 08-27-2013 03:01 PM

Snow tires
 
Just wondering what you fine jeep owners are running for snow tires? We need to replace the factory 255/75-17's with something with tread. Wondering if a BFG all terrain t/a or something like that or all winter/snow is the way to go?

DarthGromit 08-27-2013 03:10 PM

Most guys here will likely say a BFG AT, Duratrac, Toyo Open Country AT, General Grabber AT2, something like that.

the main thing i think about with snow tires is what will their use be, what kind of terrain and what percentages, etc. i mean if you never took it off pavement, a set of Blizzaks would work fine, though they dont look that fun. I think all of the above tires are rates as winter traction tires, meaning states like mine say i dont need to keep chains in the car if i have these tires on. If you're not in the mountains maybe the actual snow rating isn't so important and you can save some money with some Hankook or Falkens, etc.

RevCo666 08-27-2013 03:19 PM

I use goodyear territory's 31x10.5R15 (Canadian Tire brand which is the sister tire to duratrac's) and so far for the snow I get up here, they are great.

WXman 08-27-2013 09:49 PM

I think I'd start looking into the new tires. They have a lot of modern technology built in. Cooper Discoverer AT3, Toyo Open Country AT2, Hercules Terra Trac ATII, etc... these tires all have a new silica based rubber compound, tons of siping, excellent mileage warranties, and will do fantastic in snow and rain....while still being a decent trail tire. And, all three of those options are priced very well.

I'm actually thinking about running the Hercules myself on the 4Runner for winter coming up soon. It gets snowy, icy, and muddy here all winter and the Terra Trac ATII looks like the perfect tire for those conditions.

old 300 08-28-2013 02:04 PM

Thanks everyone, 99% will be on blacktop, just want a good traction tire for snow. We ran the factory wranglers last winter, they were ok but not a firm tracking tire in the slop. We plan to get a new wheel/tire package next spring so these factory wheels will be winter only.

Trendsetter75 09-01-2013 06:54 PM

Goodyear Duratracs or BFG KM2 would be your best choices for snow.

old 300 09-01-2013 07:42 PM

Thanks, I will have a look to see what I find and can afford. If we weren't planning a wheel/tire upgrade in the spring I wouldn't be worrying too much but the cost of lifting and wheels will cut into the budget.

faultymechanics 09-02-2013 10:50 PM

Any day of the week I will tell you to get Nokian Hakkapeliita. They are fantastic snow tires with a great tread pattern. They come in 31's if that's what you want. Maybe bigger but I haven't found any yet. They get fantastic traction in snow and other weather. Can also get them studded which I plan on doing.

These will be for my cj-7 but its all the same.

ford-willy 09-05-2013 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by faultymechanics (Post 4231209)
Any day of the week I will tell you to get Nokian Hakkapeliita. They are fantastic snow tires with a great tread pattern. They come in 31's if that's what you want. Maybe bigger but I haven't found any yet. They get fantastic traction in snow and other weather. Can also get them studded which I plan on doing.

These will be for my cj-7 but its all the same.

Ditto---I run the 31/10.5/15 Nokian Haks myself on dedicated winter wheels. Mine are also studded. Simply awesome. Check out this comparison chart for winter tires. When you open the link, click on the chart to enlarge it for easier reading. Also, Nokian Haks hold world ice speed record.
http://picolio.auto123.com/art-image...11-ang-car.jpg

old 300 09-07-2013 10:39 AM

Thanks again.

gc47 09-08-2013 06:01 AM

Don't know where you live but I have a set of pro comp AT for sale in 305/65/17...great ratings on street..have only 1000 miles on them

gunmn74 09-08-2013 07:15 AM

AT3s
 
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These are 255 75 17 Cooper discoverer AT3s. I just put these on. They are a P rated tire so the ride is nice but they also have 14/32 tread depth where some other AT tires start you off 12/32. Basicaly stay away from MT tires because they are not siped so the bite on packed snow is not so good. The picture of mine is not so good but they have a nice aggressive look.
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jadmt 09-08-2013 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by gunmn74 (Post 4387745)
These are 255 75 17 Cooper discoverer AT3s. I just put these on. They are a P rated tire so the ride is nice but they also have 14/32 tread depth where some other AT tires start you off 12/32. Basicaly stay away from MT tires because they are not siped so the bite on packed snow is not so good. The picture of mine is not so good but they have a nice aggressive look.
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Or you could go with the Toyo Oen country AT2 that starts with 17/32. I have over 12000 miles on mine and still have 14/32" left and smooth and quiet. very similar tread design. They also do very well on snow and ice. Living in Montana we get a fair amount of both.

Vt rider 09-13-2013 11:59 AM

IMHO, the ABSOLUTE BEST winter snow and ice tire is the Nokian Haakapellitta studded. If you do 99% pavement, you can't go wrong. I swear by them.

Michel347 09-13-2013 01:22 PM

I just ordered a set of Blizzak DM-V1 for next winter that will be mounted on the factory wheels

old 300 10-23-2013 09:57 AM

What is everyone's opinion on the bf Goodrich all terrain TA's. I know they aren't snow tires but has anyone ran these in the white stuff?

snikt 10-23-2013 10:12 AM

The KM2s have terrible ratings on snow. I would say the Duratracs, all of the fleet vehicles here in the high country use them too.

W5KVV 10-23-2013 11:39 AM

Years ago I had an old set of Goodyear Ultra Grips. The tread design is long since discontinued. We don't have alot of snow & ice in OK, but we do have the occasional ice storm. They were AMAZING on snow & ice. The Duratracs have a very similiar tread design, they remind me a lot of the old Ultra Grips.

If I were looking for a good snow & ice tire, the Duratrac would be my first choice.

Michel347 10-23-2013 03:48 PM

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We plan to get a new wheel/tire package next spring so these factory wheels will be winter only.
I guess the OP went for dedicated winter tires on the factory rims, since he was going for new wheels and tires in next spring. This would be the smartest move.

Discount Tire 10-23-2013 05:38 PM

The BFG All Terrain TA KO gets great reviews for winter use. This tire does great on ice and on packed snow. They also last and last and last so you would get plenty winters out of them.

I'd also recommend looking at the Goodyear Duratracs. These are a little more aggressive but have plenty of sipes and will do great in slippery slush as well: Goodyear Duratrac 285/70R17 - rated for sever winter conditions and can be studded.

If you want a dedicated winter tire take a look at the General Altimax Arctic in the 285/70R17 size. These would work with your factory tires and would be great to run during the winter months. Unlike typical all terrain or all season tires, dedicated winter tires are made with rubber compounds that stay flexible when temperatures drop below 45 degrees. This helps them maintain better contact with the road which increases your ability to go AND stop. General Altimax Arctic 285/70R17

damndirtydog 10-23-2013 05:59 PM

Other than the Duratrac, that I run, I see a lot of trucks here in Utah running Toyo open country M/Ts. I think they're a bit heavy, but Offroad magazine rated them next best to DTs in snow and ice in an article I read about a year ago.

Trendsetter75 10-23-2013 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by RevCo666 (Post 4126536)
I use goodyear territory's 31x10.5R15 (Canadian Tire brand which is the sister tire to duratrac's) and so far for the snow I get up here, they are great.

how much snow did you drive in?

Trendsetter75 10-23-2013 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by snikt (Post 5587674)
The KM2s have terrible ratings on snow. I would say the Duratracs, all of the fleet vehicles here in the high country use them too.

What ratings have you read?

carlojp 10-24-2013 05:11 AM

I always heard that Duratracs are one of the best AT tires that perform well in the snow

the_saint 10-24-2013 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Discount Tire (Post 5598802)
If you want a dedicated winter tire take a look at the General Altimax Arctic in the 285/70R17 size. These would work with your factory tires and would be great to run during the winter months. Unlike typical all terrain or all season tires, dedicated winter tires are made with rubber compounds that stay flexible when temperatures drop below 45 degrees. This helps them maintain better contact with the road which increases your ability to go AND stop. General Altimax Arctic 285/70R17


I just ordered these yesterday, and am looking forward to trying them out this winter.

I prefer a dedicated winter tire/wheel and don't mind changing them out.

My other cars run Michelin X-Ice2s so am looking forward to something a bit different. I am wanting a bit more snow traction, and expect to be getting that from the Altimax tire at the expense of ice traction.

Michel347 10-25-2013 08:02 AM

My wife has them on her vehicule, they are great in snow, and average on ice for a winter tire, but you can stud them, and then they become great on ice too. She will do her third winter with them, and they barely show any wear.

bdrake 10-25-2013 08:40 AM

Cant go wrong with Cooper AT3

old 300 10-25-2013 12:20 PM

I was talking with a friend yesterday who runs BFG all terrain ta ko's. He said he runs them 12 months a year and finds them great all around. I looked at them and noticed the snow flake on them for winter conditions. I'm thinking of going with these as we won't have to mount/dismount twice a year.
Thanks to everyone for the comments, a lot of great info.

the_saint 10-31-2013 08:39 PM

Just picked up my winter tires and wheels :)

Can't wait to get them mounted :)

Will report when the snow and ice arrive!

Will post pictures when they are on the Jeep.

the_saint 11-03-2013 03:33 PM

A big shout out to Discount Tire Direct!!

Tires and wheels arrived without issue.

Got the winter wheel and tires on the Jeep today (and the wife's car and my friend's car).

Now it just needs to snow and for the ice to arrive before I can comment on the General Arctic Altimax.

Same diameter but almost an inch and a half wider. I like how they look, hopefully they work as advertised.

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d2...ps465a5662.jpg

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