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Parsonsm 09-04-2013 02:31 PM

Controlling Body Roll
 
Ok, so here are the specs:

2004 Wrangler Sport
4 inch SSL/1 inch BL
Zone Springs and Shocks

So, I get some pretty good body roll from the engine torque as well as when I go around corners. What is the best way to manage/minimize it given the about of lift.

Not expecting it to drive like a Porsche, but think it could be tighter.

Thanks

PStov98TJ 09-04-2013 02:32 PM

There's many things that control body roll.

Are you still on stock control arms? Have your swaybars hooked up with extended links?

Sccafire 09-04-2013 02:33 PM

swaybars still connected?

Imped 09-04-2013 02:36 PM

Good shocks and sway bars. Suspension geometry also comes into play here but unless you plan on cutting off the stock mounts and going custom, you're not changing that.

My TJ with AR sway bars on both ends stays flat (very little torque roll) when accelerating and corners wonderfully. But it's far from stock.

Ironhead Jed 09-04-2013 02:51 PM

^^^ x2

you could minimize engine torque by switching to a different mm, i run rubber browndog mm and there is almost no roll compared to oem mounts

Parsonsm 09-04-2013 07:45 PM

I know I have a connected sway bar on the front. Also, have MORE motor mounts. Am thinking of going to the Bilstein shocks as I hear they are a bit stiffer. Wondering if this will help.

Parsonsm 09-04-2013 07:47 PM

Also have Rock Krawler adjustable control arms.

TJDave 09-04-2013 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Parsonsm (Post 4291513)
I know I have a connected sway bar on the front. Also, have MORE motor mounts. Am thinking of going to the Bilstein shocks as I hear they are a bit stiffer. Wondering if this will help.

Czech the rear.

Parsonsm 09-04-2013 08:32 PM

I do not think I have a rear sway bar. I have the track bar, not the sway bar. Is this a pretty common addition for lifted wranglers?

Imped 09-04-2013 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Parsonsm (Post 4293569)
I do not think I have a rear sway bar. I have the track bar, not the sway bar. Is this a pretty common addition for lifted wranglers?

That's a common (and many, like myself, consider it a necessity) suspension component for vehicles with coil springs and link suspensions. It's also a big chunk of the reason for your body roll.

TJDave 09-04-2013 09:05 PM

That's your body roll problem. I would re install one before messing with a bunch of other stuff.

Parsonsm 09-04-2013 09:56 PM

Any recommendations on type, brand etc. I will have to go out and look a big more in the morning. Thanks for the input.

freeskier 09-04-2013 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Parsonsm (Post 4296977)
Any recommendations on type, brand etc. I will have to go out and look a big more in the morning. Thanks for the input.

Stock...

dahreno 09-04-2013 10:18 PM

Your Jeep should have had one from the factory . It's not something that people add to that model Jeep , you should have it already

Parsonsm 09-04-2013 10:20 PM

Best place to buy

Endoftheroad4x4 09-04-2013 11:44 PM

Tire spacers and a big fat tire

Derp 09-05-2013 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Parsonsm (Post 4298057)
Best place to buy

Daveys jeep for factory, or currie for a better offroad friendly one.

Imped 09-05-2013 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Derp (Post 4301721)
Daveys jeep for factory, or currie for a better offroad friendly one.

Contrary to popular belief, the rear Currie AR in the TJ-specific kit is stiffer than the factory sway bar.

It's very, very friendly on and off the road.

Parsonsm 09-05-2013 07:45 AM

Ok, heading out and under the jeep this morning to see if one is there. If not, going to contact the PO and get the history on why it was removed.

Imped 09-05-2013 07:53 AM

He's gonna say, "I did it for more flex man."

And if he does, he doesn't know what he's talking about.

Parsonsm 09-05-2013 08:11 AM

Just confirmed that there is no RSB or links down there. Looks like that is my next project. Just hope this is not too hard of an install, does not look to be. Any tips appreciated. Man, I have had this thing up on the interstate a few times, hope it has not been too much of a safety issue.

PStov98TJ 09-05-2013 08:13 AM

It is sort of a safety issue if you like to drive like a maniac. Just know you've got a sway bar missing and drive accordingly until you can get one on there.

pyrilampes 09-05-2013 08:21 AM

Lower your standards and get a fat chick. Have her sit either on the left or right in the back (out of sight) that will stabilize the jeep and take out some of the vehicle roll.

lovemachine 09-05-2013 08:54 AM

How difficult is installing the Currie rear AR?

PStov98TJ 09-05-2013 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by lovemachine (Post 4307729)
How difficult is installing the Currie rear AR?

They make a bolt on one for the rear now. So can't be too hard.

Imped 09-05-2013 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by lovemachine (Post 4307729)
How difficult is installing the Currie rear AR?

Very easy. I've done a few of them.

Did you see my rear AR? I built the frame mounts, bent the arms, etc. That was not easy. Putting the bolt-on AR onto a normal TJ is cake.

lovemachine 09-05-2013 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Imped (Post 4308225)
Very easy. I've done a few of them.

Did you see my rear AR? I built the frame mounts, bent the arms, etc. That was not easy. Putting the bolt-on AR onto a normal TJ is cake.

No, I never saw it. You had too many other things on your jeep to look at ;)

I may have to get the rear AR installed sometime though...

Imped 09-05-2013 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by lovemachine (Post 4309913)
No, I never saw it. You had too many other things on your jeep to look at ;)

I may have to get the rear AR installed sometime though...

While I love a rear torsion bar setup like the AR, it's definitely not a 'must have' in your case. Wheel the Jeep for a while and when you have an extra $400 burning a hole in your pocket and you understand the benefits over the stocker then go for it.

TJDave 09-05-2013 01:10 PM

When I swapped out my D35 for a Rubi D44, I just moved my stock rear swaybar over to the d44.
All the mounting points were same.
I am not sure what other model Jeep sway bars are interchangeable. Maybe something to research and find at a wrecking yard for a quick fix.

Parsonsm 09-05-2013 11:55 PM

Ok I found a local guy who has a stock one that will work so I am thinking on that. Can't find much on how to install it though. Any help is appreciated.


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