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04moneypit 09-20-2006 01:54 PM

Fall hunting season
 
So, I know not everybody does it and not everyone has to like it, but hunting and four wheeling goes hand in hand and has for years. So anyway, dove season just ended, is anyone gearing up for deer, or quail next month. I haven't been able to make it out yet myself, but definitely looking forward to it. It's my favorite time of the year, when I get to go wheeling and participate in the shooting sports, and put some meat on the table at the same time.

Griz 09-20-2006 02:52 PM

Been hunting Archery Elk. Blew a chance at a 6X6 on opening day. Got him in to about 50 yards but he was faceing right at me. Not sure what happened but he just turned and ran like his tail was on fire. Wind was blowing strong toward me and I was well hidden so I don't think he knew I was there. Getting myself and the Jeep ready for Deer in Oct. Then its Pheasent, Ducks and Geese. Griz

Dare2BSquare 09-20-2006 04:16 PM

I broke a rib putting up my deer stand Monday. No, I didn't fall out of the tree. I cut off a 3 1/2 inch limb for a shooting lane and reached across another larger limb to lift it up and toss it out of the tree. SNAP when I lifted the weight of the limb. Two days later, I'm still in pain, but only when I breathe or move!

04moneypit 09-20-2006 04:24 PM

Sounds like some bad luck so far this year. Griz- sorry about the elk, but it sounds like you're getting ready to have some fun coming up real quick. I love to shoot them birds, The faster pace keeps things exciting. California valley quail and dove are my favorite, pheasants a close second. So good luck. D2B[], Sorry to hear about the ribs, too bad. Hope your feel well enough soon to hold that rifle steady and bag a big one for me.

-Josh:D

amerijeep 09-20-2006 04:50 PM

Have fun killing innocent creatures in the name of sport.

Dare2BSquare 09-20-2006 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by amerijeep
Have fun killing innocent creatures in the name of sport.

Don't go there. :p

Texapple 09-20-2006 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Dare2BSquare
Don't go there. :p

I was thinking just that :eek:


He makes me feel guilty for going rabbit hunting when I was 13, I come from a family that's big into hunting (living in Tx and owning a ranch), but we process what we kill and fill the freezer. Venison - the other red meat.

1BLKJP 09-20-2006 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by amerijeep
Have fun killing innocent creatures in the name of sport.

Jepper you've been kind of grumpy the past couple of days. What's up buddy?

I've got get out and do some hunting. A buddy of mine on this board 1whtjp (don't ask it's a joke) got passed up for a big game tag this year, but we are going to probably hook up some predators I think later this fall.

amerijeep 09-20-2006 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by 1BLKJP
Jepper you've been kind of grumpy the past couple of days. What's up buddy?

I've got get out and do some hunting. A buddy of mine on this board 1whtjp (don't ask it's a joke) got passed up for a big game tag this year, but we are going to probably hook up some predators I think later this fall.

Have I been? Sorry. I've had a total of four days off work in the past three months. You may be right. I may be getting cranky. I hadn't realized it was coming across, but I appreciate the tip.
I'll kick it back a few notches.

Although, on the hunting thing, Jack. I feel about it similar to the way you feel about treading lightly. I'm no activist, probably more of a sympathist, to animals that is. My wife and I are very active in animal rights, so it's just one of those things that gets to me a little. I know you understand, because you are a strong supporter of "tread lightly".

1BLKJP 09-20-2006 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by amerijeep
Although, on the hunting thing, Jack. I feel about it similar to the way you feel about treading lightly. I'm no activist, probably more of a sympathist, to animals that is. My wife and I are very active in animal rights, so it's just one of those things that gets to me a little. I know you understand, because you are a strong supporter of "tread lightly".

I hear you bro. I've never been cruel to an animal a day in my life (unless you count putting my dogs ears in a pony tail holder and laughing my ass off while he ran around trying to get them out as being cruel). However I have seen first hand what overpopulation of deer can do to a lake/park from when I lived in KS. Hunting is a natural way of life for a lot of people. Most of the time it's no more inhumane than it is when they are slaughtering hogs or cows for meat. It is for some people and not for others. I respect your opinion on the matter.

Dare2BSquare 09-20-2006 07:24 PM

I agree with that.

Texapple 09-20-2006 07:31 PM

I don't think you took it that way, but if I sounded disrespectful, didn't mean to come off that way, I always try to respect anothers opinion

amerijeep 09-20-2006 07:40 PM

Hey my friends.I was never upset with anyone. I'm sure that I have come across as being short about the whole thing. I speak very frankly, and I guess I type the same way. Trust me, I mean what I say much more light-hearted than it comes across.

I have to admit, I am starting to get weary because I am on call 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. I have a good bit of free time, but I get called out several times a day on service calls.

I need a vacation. I might need to stay off the net for a few weeks.

Dare2BSquare 09-20-2006 07:49 PM

Hey man, this may be the only thing keeping you sane at this point.

rebelBullDawg325 09-20-2006 09:09 PM

i've never quite undertsood dove season, it's wierd..... but i've already gone scouting 3 times for where i wanan put up new stands for whitetail. we've already put out soem corn and deer cane, and we planted a food plot last saturday. bow season started 2 weeks ago, but my bow just aint quite ready yet. i dont wanna take a shot and not kill the deer. i think it's dumb to hunt and not have you bow/rifle 100% sighted in. also, as soon as the leaves start to fall, i'll be coon huntin again, thats my true passion

Dare2BSquare 09-20-2006 09:18 PM

Bow season comes in here on Oct 1. Got my stand up and my game camera out. Going in the morning to check the camera. Good thing I sighted my bow already, it's hard to draw with a broken rib. I bet I'm ready to go in 10 days, though. We have new rules this year at the hunting club. Have to kill a doe before you can kill a buck. Bucks must be 8 pt or better. The weather has cooled off and I'm getting the fever.

04moneypit 09-21-2006 10:58 AM

Allright, I knew I would get some naysayers, but I respect your opinion. Amerijeep- I know you said just in the name of sport, and later stated it was meant as light hearted, but, although I do go for the sport, I stay to fill the freezer, to help feed my family, and on the plus side, the meat is much better for you than almost any store bought meat. So, even if you believe in the cause, if you still sit down and have a burger or a steak, maybe one day we can sit down to dinner and you can see the end result. If not don't take this as an insult, we are a free country and anyone can believe what they want. To everyone else, I appreciate the support for the sport, and the intelligent banter behind each statement, and keep on doing what you enjoy. To all: enjoy your hobbies and your sports, whatever they may be. But, in the same way, don't infringe upon others rights or abilities to do what they enjoy, as long as it's not illegal let's support each other, and bring a little happiness to this world.:)

04moneypit 09-21-2006 11:09 AM

Oh, one more quick thing, my wife used to be in the other boat, until she saw that hunting was done in an ethical and even handed manner, she's even shot a few pheasant and chuckar herself now, and she begs to have wild game for dinner all the time. catch you guys a little later.

amerijeep 09-21-2006 05:10 PM

Yeah, I used to be in the other boat too. I'm a Mississippi grown country boy. I got edumacated though so I flipped positions.

Dare2BSquare 09-21-2006 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by amerijeep
Yeah, I used to be in the other boat too. I'm a Mississippi grown country boy. I got edumacated though so I flipped positions.

CAUTION: THIS IS A JOKE !

Isn't that an oxymoron? - an educated Mississippi boy?

:confused:

amerijeep 09-21-2006 06:20 PM

Hey! I resent that! I graduated 18th in my class. I'm only a couple years away from my 20 year reunion. It'll be nice to have the whole class back together. All 19 of us.

Dare2BSquare 09-21-2006 06:24 PM

Sorry man, I just couldn't resist that one. I work with a good friend from Mississippi. I kid with him like that all the time. I have found that people from Mississippi have a good sense of humor. (they have to, they are from Mississippi) --- there I go again
:p

1BLKJP 09-21-2006 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Dare2BSquare
Sorry man, I just couldn't resist that one. I work with a good friend from Mississippi. I kid with him like that all the time. I have found that people from Mississippi have a good sense of humor. (they have to, they are from Mississippi) --- there I go again
:p

So I guess that people from Mississippi are the only ones that people from Arkansas think they have the upper hand on? :D :D :D

amerijeep 09-21-2006 06:39 PM

Yep. You are right. We do feel fortunate to have not been from Arkansas and that's about our only bragging right.

Dare2BSquare 09-21-2006 06:42 PM

I am not "from" Arkansas, I just live here. When I moved here it raised the average IQ of both Arkansas and the state I moved from!

amerijeep 09-21-2006 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Dare2BSquare
I am not "from" Arkansas, I just live here. When I moved here it raised the average IQ of both Arkansas and the state I moved from!


Ah, that's a good one. Funny!

1BLKJP 09-21-2006 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Dare2BSquare
I am not "from" Arkansas, I just live here. When I moved here it raised the average IQ of both Arkansas and the state I moved from!

NIIIIIIIIIIICE :D :D :D :D :D

bluvikng 09-21-2006 08:31 PM

It only takes a small amount of research to realize that controlled hunting, has increased the herds across America. They are in larger numbers now, then they were 100 yrs. ago. Due to killing all the predator animals in this country in the early 1900's, there is no one left to kill off the weak, and crippled animals. Due to controlled hunting, we keep the animals in check. A natural selection of the strong, and smart. I have seen areas of this country were you could literally feed the deer by hand. They are so inbred, and have hideous sores, and other nasty things growing on them. It is a very human thing to have legal hunting, versus letting the dear starve to death. Over population is a prevalent problem across the states. PA, being a very good example. More dear are killed on the highways, than by hunting. It is a very small thing, to know the facts about having a legal hunt. Do I want to kill anything, and then eat it? No......but I am not against someone that wants to do it. It is legal, and serves a great purpose in population control, and keeping the herds healthy. Heck, I don't even fish anymore. Too many pollutants (Mercury) in our waters. I believe in eating healthy, and that is my choice. But I would never expect anyone else to do what I do, if they have not reached that level of enlightenment. Freedom is a very precious thing, and one should never dictate their own believes, on everyone else. Call it the evolution of humanity. We are all on different levels of knowledge, and what we hold dear. But for any of us to call another one, less of a human, because of where they are at, is simply not our call to make.

Where do you think the funding comes from, to keep our natural animals healthy? It is the revenue, from buying hunting licenses, that keeps this wonderful country of ours, in check.

amerijeep 09-21-2006 08:55 PM

That's what people want to be true so that they can feel better or justify it to themselves. It only has to do with infringement on animal habitats. The reason they are hungry is because there is an indian casino where the deer and buffalo used to roam.

Dare2BSquare 09-21-2006 09:24 PM

Well, Blu is right. And AJ is right, too. One of the costs of "civilization" is the taming of the natural order. People do not want to be killed by bears or wolves or mountain lions. Even though that may be the "natural" order of things. When civilization moves into any habitat the first thing that happens is to try to make it safe for humans. The predators that threaten us are the first thing to go. Then you have the problem that the other creatures in the habitat are out of balance. Overpopulation occurs because we have removed the predators. We have come a long way in realizing that these animals have a place in the natural order. That's why in Arkansas, for example black bears have returned to the habitat they once had here. Elk have been reintroduced and deer and wild turkeys have returned from the brink of being all killed off in the state.
We do as much, or more damage by altering the habitat to suit our agricultural needs. Pesticides and herbicides "clean up" the land where we can grow crops. They also reduce cover and food for wildlife as a biproduct. Like it or not, that is the "civilized' world we find ourselves in. Sportsmen and women have funded most of what has been done to restore as much habitat as possible. License fees pay for state parks and national forest lands to be bought and set aside for recreational uses including hunting, fishing, birding, camping and in some places even wheeling.
Venison and trout are much more nutritious than beef and farm raised fish that have been shot full of hormones, pesticides and who knows what else. Even at that, these chemicals leach into our streams and wetlands as well as all the stuff we pump into the air.
IMHO sportsmen have done more than anyone to help restore things to the natural order. Management by harvest is one of the necessary steps to keep disease and starvation from killing thousands of more animals than hunting ever will.
I have a degree in Biology and if you want, I can give you a lot of examples of what I'm talking about. Population studies and research bear this out.

Sorry, we kind of hijacked this thread, 04moneypit!


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