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Bpoch 10-02-2013 10:02 AM

Front Sway bar - this can't be right?
 
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05 Rubicon stock. My 1st jeep, only had it 5 months. Was looking under the front when I noticed the swaybar, this is broke, right?

Zinger 10-02-2013 10:04 AM

Yup - OEM style links can be found inexpensively if you check around. Maybe even free from someone who has lifted their rig.

MFsoftball22 10-02-2013 10:05 AM

Yes that is not correct. You def need a new sway bar link

Relocatedduckman 10-02-2013 10:05 AM

Spend the 75 on JKS quick Disconnects..

Bpoch 10-02-2013 10:11 AM

If I go disconnects, do they have to be a certain size? I haven't really decided what direction I want to go with this in the future as far as a lift, but I'm 80% sure I'm going to go with a 2" BDS coil lift and stick with the 265/75/16 tire.

TJDave 10-02-2013 10:24 AM

Check the vendor specs on their discos. They each have ranges for the amount of lift, and some are adjustable.
When I broke my stock links, I went with Teraflex discos. I had a 2"bb at the time, and knew I would be going with a 3" lift later.
I wouldn't waste money on replacing those stock links...even if you never plan on disconnecting your sway bar.

Reznor 10-02-2013 10:25 AM

Some disconnects are adjustable. Ideally, you want to keep the ends of the sway bar even with the ground. If you're a little off it won't hurt anything though. With only a 2" lift you could get away with stock links, so you need to decide if you're going to do moderate offroading or not. And if so, I'm not certain a 2" lift is enough. If not, then you probably don't need disconnects in the first place.

TJDave 10-02-2013 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Reznor (Post 5029481)
Some disconnects are adjustable. Ideally, you want to keep the ends of the sway bar even with the ground. If you're a little off it won't hurt anything though.

Correct.

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Originally Posted by Reznor (Post 5029481)
With only a 2" lift you could get away with stock links, so you need to decide if you're going to do moderate offroading or not. And if so, I'm not certain a 2" lift is enough. If not, then you probably don't need disconnects in the first place.

Maybe. Stock links are crap. His Jeep is stock, and his links broke. Mine had a 2"BB at the time, and mine broke...on the street after hitting a bump.

Wheeling is 90% driver. I've seen stock and mildly lifted Jeeps with an experienced driver do some pretty amazing things.

littlestgorilla 10-02-2013 10:53 AM

This also happened to my links. I couldn't afford disconnects so I went with aftermarket greasable ones

vertical horizons 10-02-2013 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by TJDave (Post 5029441)
... I wouldn't waste money on replacing those stock links...

Why not?
He HAS TO replace them. They broke.

JeepBrahJoey 10-02-2013 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by vertical horizons (Post 5032209)
Why not?
He HAS TO replace them. They broke.


false. The jeep will handle a but more squirrely, but he doesn't HAVE to replace them. If he HAD to replace them, they wouldnt make them disconnectable in the first place. They're not necessary for a functional ride.

530ktm 10-02-2013 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by JeepBrahJoey (Post 5032585)
false. The jeep will handle a but more squirrely, but he doesn't HAVE to replace them. If he HAD to replace them, they wouldnt make them disconnectable in the first place. They're not necessary for a functional ride.

This is true but I would replace them with JKS or similar in the length you would need if you plan on lifting your Jeep.

JeepBrahJoey 10-02-2013 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by 530ktm (Post 5033353)
This is true but I would replace them with JKS or similar in the length you would need if you plan on lifting your Jeep.


I don;t disagree. i had the same thing happen to mine as OP (I broke mine wheeling it at Jeep Jam) and didn;t even realize it for a couple days (passenger side was still in, drivers side did what his did). When i saw it, I lifted the bumper up while a buddy moved the bar back underneath, and drove it around like that for almost a month. Road driving won't mess with it, he can just pop the ball back in the socket and ride around like that until he gets a new one.

I got new ones with my teraflex lift, so i just waited until i put that on.

Ljcrawler05 10-02-2013 01:31 PM

Perfect time for an upgrade to an antirock!

Best thing I've done to my rig

Bpoch 10-02-2013 08:39 PM

1st I want to say how awesome the Jeep community is. I drove a Camaro for 18 years before it finally died and with sports cars everybody is always pointing out how much better there's is. Having a Jeep, everybody is cool and always willing to help out. Makes me feel like I wasted 18 years in a sports car.

I have no idea how long this has been broken. For all I know it's been like this for awhile. I don't do a ton of highway driving. At this point I think I'm going to go disconnects when I have the money, it's a little tight right now, so I'll drive around with it like this for a week or so.

I assume the Jeep motto is "if it breaks, upgrade it" I guess a bonus until I get it fixed is if I do manage to find some trails in MD, I'm already disconnected.

Ljcrawler05 10-02-2013 11:52 PM

http://shop.savvyoffroad.com/product...1&categoryId=2

I'd at least take a look at this before you waste money on expensive discos.

Iceman 10-03-2013 05:56 AM

If the jeep handles well enough let it go untill you can afford disconnects. If not the stock links are l like ~$15-$16 from Auto-zone. When I broke my first one that's what I had to do, the second one broke at a more financially convenient time lol. I would recommend the jks discos when and if possible.

gyramax 10-03-2013 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Relocatedduckman (Post 5028977)
Spend the 75 on JKS quick Disconnects..


Where did you find JKS discos for $75??

Reznor 10-03-2013 09:48 AM

Just be careful if you're going to drive on regular roads/highway without a front sway bar. If you need to do any emergency moves, the results could be quite terrifying.

I had an XJ which had the link break on it, and I needed to drive it until I fixed it. As luck would have it, someone cut me off on the highway and I swerved to ensure we didn't have an accident. I damn near lost control, and I figure a less experienced driver well might have.

I know the Jeep "feels" fine. But the real stress isn't put on the sway bar during normal driving. I really wouldn't suggest going without a sway bar... especially on the highway. (Even if you dont' do a "lot" of highway driving). And if you must, be really careful!

And yes, the Jeep community is awesome. I too come from a long list of sports cars and their communities are never this helpful.

Neil F. 10-03-2013 10:35 AM

If you are not in need of disconnecting, you can get solid links from just about any of the suspension manufactuers. They are cheaper that disconnects and do not have the weak ball/socket design. Zone has low cost ones and you can get them on Amazon.

Bpoch 10-03-2013 12:43 PM

Thanks guys, picked up some normal ones from Auto Zone today, will install this weekend.

Neil F. 10-03-2013 01:16 PM

Note, if you have not researched installation, the shaft with the ball is tapered. To get it out may take some work and one of several methods (heat, hammer, pickle fork)

Gixxer86g 10-03-2013 06:31 PM

Disconnecting the stock links takes five minutes. :whistling:

gyramax 10-03-2013 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Neil F. (Post 5059761)
Note, if you have not researched installation, the shaft with the ball is tapered. To get it out may take some work and one of several methods (heat, hammer, pickle fork)

Had to replace one of mine a couple of weeks ago. I tried all of the above and finally took it to a gargae for removal. They had to use a pneumatic hammer before it would budge.

Bpoch 10-03-2013 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Neil F. (Post 5059761)
Note, if you have not researched installation, the shaft with the ball is tapered. To get it out may take some work and one of several methods (heat, hammer, pickle fork)

I have done the research and have sledgehammer ready to go!! If it comes down to it I can run up to pep boys or auto zone and rent a tool for it. I've seen some instructions using a pitman arm puller. Though I'm hoping to put my 8 years of martial arts training to use and just judi chop it.

I'm gonna blast it with some PB the night before.

Neil F. 10-04-2013 01:19 PM

Myself I left one side connected, with a pickle fork and a big length of pipe, it came out with a bang

Bpoch 10-04-2013 11:44 PM

Thanks for all the info guys. I went ahead and replaced them with normal ones from Auto Zone tonight. Had to run to Pep boys to borrow a pitman arm puller. I banged the crap out of the ball joint and it didn't budge. I even busted a hammer trying to use it like a crow bar, guess I'm stronger than I thought.

I'll add some disconnects when I have the extra money, it's just a little tight right now.

littlestgorilla 10-05-2013 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by gyramax (Post 5066873)
Had to replace one of mine a couple of weeks ago. I tried all of the above and finally took it to a gargae for removal. They had to use a pneumatic hammer before it would budge.

Sawzall, all I have to say when I did mine.

JeepJT04 10-05-2013 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Bpoch (Post 5028881)
05 Rubicon stock. My 1st jeep, only had it 5 months. Was looking under the front when I noticed the swaybar, this is broke, right?

Had that happen to mine and on the highway it made the front end shaky.

04wranglernoob 11-03-2013 11:32 AM

Noticed a broken link this morning. Didn't know how to go about the fix, thought I could just re-insert the ball joint : /

I'll go buy some replacements instead. Thanks guys


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