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kmorris283 07-06-2009 08:31 PM

Newbie Question - 2003 Wrangler 4x4 Sport
Hello, I just sold my motorcycle and want to buy a Jeep. I have a 2003 Sport 4.0 automatic that looks pretty stock with soft top and hella lights on the bumper. Asking price is 11500. It has 52K miles. I want to be able to turn on to any dirt road in the Sierra Nevadas (well some of them at least) and get to where I want to go.

Is this a decent price and what would you recommend I do to it? I know I want a lift and tires 1st thing but I still have to drive it in the city and get the 5 hours to the dirt roads.


Thanks, K

jwells36 07-06-2009 09:59 PM


welcome to the forum. Just to give you an idea i paid $9,000 for an 2001 sport that had 60,000 miles on it and was pretty much stock so the price for the 03 sounds about right, might check with Kelly blue Book and see what they price it at although that doesn't always apply to jeeps. As far as lift and tires you might look at a 2inch lift with 32x11.50 tires, that is a good setup for a daily driver and will get you in and out of lots of places offroad.


stevens243 07-06-2009 11:02 PM

The price seems just a tad high. But most private parties do that on purpose (I know I always do).

I guess the biggest mistake I ever made when I bought my first jeep was the axle issue. If you ever plan on bigger tires (33's or bigger) and want to lift it and all the things that go along with it, check the rear axle. If it's roundish looking and has a rubber fill plug, it's a D35 which is fine for daily use and stock level offroading but has been know to fail with big tires and hard use. A octogonish shape with a metal (hex) fill plug is a D44 and is much more reliable for hard offroad use and can be built to suit you use (adding a locker or such) without spending big $$$ to "get there".

So, what do you want to do long term and can you negotiate the price a bit and will you be happy?

kmorris283 07-07-2009 01:23 AM

D35 rear end
Thank you both for the information. I do know that the one I am looking at has the D35 rearend. Now that I know about the rearend I think it maybe a deal breaker. I was thinking I would put at least 33's on it and I do not want to have to deal with rearend issues...

This is the list of features it has...

•117-amp alternator
•19 gallon fuel tank

•3.07 axle ratio
•500-CCA maintenance free battery

•Air Conditioning
•Alloy Wheels

•AM/FM Stereo
•Aux 12V pwr outlet

•Black bumpers w/extentions
•Body-color grille

•Cargo tie down loops

•Cigar lighter
•Cloth high-back front bucket seats

•Command-Trac part-time 4WD
•Courtesy & underhood lamps

•Dana 30/186MM front axle
•Dana M35/194MM rear axle

•Dual Front Air Bags
•Electronic AM/FM stereo radio w/cassette-inc: changer control

•Fender flares
•Fog lamps

•Fold away exterior mirrors
•Folding rear seat

•Folding soft top w/soft windows
•Front seat area carpeting

•Front/rear stabilizer bars
•Full height metal doors w/roll-up windows

•Full-length floor console
•Glove box w/lock

•Halogen headlamps w/chrome bezels
•Height-adjustable front shoulder belts (2001)

•Low pressure gas-charged shock absorbers
•Matching removable folding rear seat

•P215/75R15 all-terrain SBR RBL Wrangler tires
•Power Steering

•Pwr front disc/rear drum brakes
•Pwr recirculating ball steering

•Rear Seat
•Rear seat/cargo area carpeting

•Sport bar w/full padding
•Tethered gas cap

•Tilt Wheel
•Tip & slide passenger seat

•Tow hooks-inc: (2) front & (1) rear
•Variable intermittent windshield wipers

stevens243 07-07-2009 10:20 AM

Well, the 35 diff should hold up for 33's unless you really beat on it but with those gears you will need to regear for 33's. If it had 3.73's if might get you by. Not as is for sure.

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