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Jerry Bransford 07-23-2009 02:21 PM

Scarey article warning of welding around brake cleaner or similar products
 
This article just posted over on JF fabrication forum this morning was a shocking eye-opener. This is from an upcoming August 2009 magazine so it's not outdated info...

Brake Cleaner = Phosgene Article

Holy smoke, be careful guys! :eek:

skeeter 07-23-2009 02:38 PM

Thank you very much for posting that, I use brake cleaner on all kinds of stuff because it evaporates so quick.

jeep41 07-23-2009 02:48 PM

Wow, thats one lucky guy!

4point 07-23-2009 02:57 PM

Wow... Thanks for the heads up Jerry.

jpdocdave 07-23-2009 02:57 PM

yap, i had a similar expereince, but with a chemical someone used in a throttle body, i thought i wasn't gonna make it. turned out the chemical composition was about the same as agent orange when it came out the tail pipe.

Jerry Bransford 07-23-2009 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skeeter (Post 406706)
I use brake cleaner on all kinds of stuff because it evaporates so quick.

It does seemingly but I was shown a few years ago how brake cleaner actually leaves an oily residue behind that new brake pads pick up. I now use Simple Green to clean brake rotors before installing new pads. :)

jdhallissey 07-23-2009 04:55 PM

That would suck.

silvergoat 07-23-2009 08:59 PM

Ive been lucky I guess, I use brake cleaner to clean rear end gears before I weld them.

buckshot500 07-24-2009 05:08 AM

Freon does the same thing, when exposed to an open flame!

Gubberment used to make phosgene bombs with freon & acetylene tanks, using a standard bomb detonator IIRC. Was in early WWII.:firedevil:

morphious 07-24-2009 08:52 AM

Holy crap:eek:I'm glad i never use brake clean on any thing

Jerry Bransford 07-24-2009 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by silvergoat (Post 407124)
Ive been lucky I guess, I use brake cleaner to clean rear end gears before I weld them.

You have been lucky, I'd sure switch to something else like a carb or throttle body cleaner which does totally evaporate.

By the way, using brake cleaner leaves a residue anyway. :)

yjwes 07-24-2009 04:12 PM

brake cleaner and welding http://i665.photobucket.com/albums/v...loud-37024.jpg

Ironman 07-24-2009 09:12 PM

Thanks for posting Jerry.

jpdocdave 07-24-2009 09:20 PM

i'd like to know if its different brake cleaners also, there's many different kinds, some are "extremely flammable" other brake clean comes " non flammable"

buckshot500 07-24-2009 10:26 PM

Here is another fun ingredient in some brake parts cleaners, or at least used to be.
Trichloroethylene - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

guns-r-us 08-04-2009 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jerry bransford (Post 406699)
this article just posted over on jf fabrication forum this morning was a shocking eye-opener. This is from an upcoming august 2009 magazine so it's not outdated info...

brake cleaner = phosgene article

holy smoke, be careful guys! :eek:

gosh, ive been using brake parts cleaner to clean up the powder residue and lithium grease in my silencers. What evaporates quickly and leaves no residue?

rock4xfab 08-19-2009 06:07 PM

Anything that has a Chlorine Base/mixed with Argon will turn to Phosgene. It used to be some Welding antispatter had it in it. Being that I do production welding I am very watchfull of any new product that a sales guy comes through the door with. I have my set in stone products and that is all I use.
It only take about 4 parts per million to KILL YOU DEAD And lets face it I think that is the only thing that fixes Stupid...

jpdocdave 08-19-2009 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rock4xfab (Post 425279)
It only take about 4 parts per million to KILL YOU DEAD And lets face it I think that is the only thing that fixes Stupid...


how are you still livin??? :rofl: j/k scott.

flattietj 08-20-2009 01:02 AM

we build jeeps and work on various cars every day.....brake clean works well for every thing....dont let novices scare you out of using the best degreaser there is......we use it to clean the concrete floors as well as clean a new gear set or set of rotors....u r talkin about a product that most(or all) real automotive experts use everday....im sure that somebody that uses it once a week is gonna know more about how it works in the real world than somebody that lives on it


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