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elToro 10-11-2013 04:58 PM

Consequences of running 5w30 instead of 20?
 
Just traded in my 2012 JKU for a 2014. Old one used 5w30. New one uses 5w20. I've got 2 cases of 30 sitting in the garage. Any real harm in using it in my 2014? I'd rather put it to use.

dgsholar 10-11-2013 05:30 PM

It could harm your warranty if there is an oil related failure or engine issue. I found that I had 6 Gallons of Castrol GTX I used in my '08 Rubi, that does not meet Chrysler Specs, so I took it back to WalMart and traded it for Penzoil - which does.

Is there another vehicle you can use it in? I bought the Mopar Lifetime warranty, so I am trying to make sure any maintenance I do meets Chrysler specs. But even with the standard 5 year/100K warranty I would not want to give any reason for Chrysler to void my warranty.

All that said, it'd probably be fine. But it's just not worth it to me.

Xena1 10-11-2013 05:40 PM

Absolutely NOT! 5-30 will work in your 2014 and will keep the motor quieter!

i82much 10-11-2013 05:50 PM

Will it be fine? Almost certainly. Is it worth it? No. Do yourself a favor and make sure that you have documentation of oil changes during your warranty period with Chrysler-approved oil.

Old Dogger 10-11-2013 05:59 PM

X2 This is great advice^^^^^^^^
Just take the oil back and exchange it........:thumb:

KevinNJ 10-11-2013 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by i82much (Post 5291633)
Will it be fine? Almost certainly. Is it worth it? No. Do yourself a favor and make sure that you have documentation of oil changes during your warranty period with Chrysler-approved oil.

doesn't the owner's manual say that 30 is fine as well? Any dealer I go to only has 5w30 bulk, no 20. so is it on the dealers to supply this?

i82much 10-11-2013 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by KevinNJ (Post 5292273)
doesn't the owner's manual say that 30 is fine as well? Any dealer I go to only has 5w30 bulk, no 20. so is it on the dealers to supply this?

I don't know. I'd just make darn sure I have receipts for whatever meets the spec. My first two oil changes were at the dealer, so honestly I haven't bothered to look at it.

I can tell you all kinds of nitpicky details about the oil I use in my 65 GTO ...

Afmcronnie 10-11-2013 06:30 PM

Id rather use the 5w30, anyway. I read on a Jeep Patriot forum that 5w20 makes your testicles shrink.....

i82much 10-11-2013 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Afmcronnie (Post 5292497)
Id rather use the 5w30, anyway. I read on a Jeep Patriot forum that 5w20 makes your testicles shrink.....

What would anyone on a Patriot forum know about testicles?

quartermiler 10-11-2013 07:13 PM

I seem to recall seeing in the manual that 5w30 can be used if 5w20 isn't available. Some years back, Chrysler's decision to use to5w20 was supposedly important for insuring fastest oil delivery to some valve train components. One or more Chrysler model vehicle motors had reportedly experienced valve train component damage, before 2005, which led to the lighter weight oil being preferred. Take this with a grain of salt, as I'm recalling comments by service department staff at my local dealership when we serviced my wife's 2005 Sebring when it was new.

dgsholar 10-11-2013 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by i82much (Post 5292705)
What would anyone on a Patriot forum know about testicles?

Touché!!!

Miser 10-11-2013 08:37 PM

This subject has been beaten up on this Forum, until it is bloody.:banghead:
There is a very simple solution, JUST USE WHAT YOU OWNERS MANUAL RECOMMENDS!:thumb:

And, why would you not follow this recommendation, HELLO???:facepalm:

Mark R 10-11-2013 09:10 PM

I do believe the 5w20 is used due to the vvt. the thinner oil is better for the soleniods.

CrazyT 10-11-2013 09:20 PM

Do not use 5w30 if you have had a serious allergic or skin reaction to 5w30. Some people can have serious skin reactions while taking 5w30, some of which can become life-threatening. These can include rash, swelling, redness, and peeling of the skin. Some people can have allergic reactions to 5w30, some of which can be life-threatening and include: swelling of the face, mouth, and throat that can cause trouble breathing. If you have these symptoms or have a rash with peeling skin or blisters in your mouth, stop taking 5w30 and get medical attention right away.

Before using 5w30, tell your doctor if you have a history of heart or blood vessel problems. If you have new or worse heart or blood vessel symptoms during treatment, tell your doctor. Get emergency medical help right away if you have any symptoms of a heart attack or stroke.

The most common side effects of 5w30 include nausea (30%), sleep problems, constipation, gas and/or vomiting. If you have side effects that bother you or don't go away, tell your doctor. You may have trouble sleeping, vivid, unusual or strange dreams while taking 5w30. Use caution driving or operating machinery until you know how 5w30 may affect you.

Before using 5w30, tell your doctor if you are pregnant, plan to become pregnant, or if you take insulin, asthma medicines, or blood thinners.

It's some serious $#!t. I'd stick with the 5w20.

WatchThis! 10-11-2013 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Afmcronnie (Post 5292497)
Id rather use the 5w30, anyway. I read on a Jeep Patriot forum that 5w20 makes your testicles shrink.....

I'm pretty sure being on a Patriot forum makes your testicles shrink.....

whetstone 10-11-2013 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by elToro (Post 5290057)
Just traded in my 2012 JKU for a 2014. Old one used 5w30. New one uses 5w20. I've got 2 cases of 30 sitting in the garage. Any real harm in using it in my 2014? I'd rather put it to use.

You could very well disrupt the space-time continuum...

m998dna 10-11-2013 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by elToro (Post 5290057)
Just traded in my 2012 JKU for a 2014. Old one used 5w30. New one uses 5w20. I've got 2 cases of 30 sitting in the garage. Any real harm in using it in my 2014? I'd rather put it to use.

Put it to good use.. my dealer used 5w30 the last oil change. It actually quieted down the motor some, notable difference.

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rdg04578 10-12-2013 12:35 AM

straight out of the owners manual--imagine that useful information located in the owners manual......


http://www.wranglerforum.com/data:im...AASUVORK5CYII=

rdg04578 10-12-2013 12:36 AM

says you can use 5W-30 when 5W 209 is not available.

rdg04578 10-12-2013 12:36 AM

that is 5w-20

Afmcronnie 10-12-2013 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by WatchThis! (Post 5297441)
I'm pretty sure being on a Patriot forum makes your testicles shrink.....

I go there as community service time. My pennance for selling my JK and buying a JKU.

Gumbys69 10-12-2013 11:52 AM

Part of it is also fuel economy. 5w20 flows easier and therefore gets a tiny bit better mileage but as jeep sells thousands of wranglers it all adds up for the C.A.F.E ratings. Ever notice an 88 GM truck has 10w30 on the cap but the Identical 89 GM truck has 5w30? They found that it affects their C.A.F.E. Rating and changed it. Today's tech they discovered you can get away with 5w20 and still be safe. Use what the manual suggests.

ADee1 10-12-2013 12:20 PM

Check the OM to be sure. I remember reading that if 5W20 isn't available 5W30 is fine if it meets a certain Fiat spec. Being I live in sunny San Diego now given the choice I'd use 5W30 and wouldn't think twice about it.

tingler 10-12-2013 12:52 PM

I had the same question as the Op after my first oil change at the dealership. on the invoice it says they used 5w-30, and I'm like the oil cap under the hood says 20???

Maybe this is just the dealerships way of slowly sabotaging our engines so we will be forced to go back to them to rebuild our engines or buy another jeep sooner than we should!!!

m998dna 10-12-2013 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by tingler (Post 5309201)
I had the same question as the Op after my first oil change at the dealership. on the invoice it says they used 5w-30, and I'm like the oil cap under the hood says 20???

Maybe this is just the dealerships way of slowly sabotaging our engines so we will be forced to go back to them to rebuild our engines or buy another jeep sooner than we should!!!


I hope you're not serious... LOL.

We now have a Chrysler conspiracy... must be the Pentagram and satanic symbols used in their line-up... remember they were owned by Cerberus or Kerberos, a multi-headed dog, or "hellhound" which guards the gates of the Underworld.

:firedevil:

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NFRs2000NYC 10-12-2013 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Miser (Post 5295569)
This subject has been beaten up on this Forum, until it is bloody.:banghead:
There is a very simple solution, JUST USE WHAT YOU OWNERS MANUAL RECOMMENDS!:thumb:

And, why would you not follow this recommendation, HELLO???:facepalm:

Exactly because of the reason you posted. Chrysler engineers are idiots. The 2012 and the 2014 have the same exact motor, yet for some reason, Chrysler changed their mind. Why? What changed? Exactly, they have no clue, and there are plenty of people that know better than them.

OP, run whatever oil you have, you'll be fine.

tingler 10-12-2013 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m998dna (Post 5309569)
I hope you're not serious... LOL. We now have a Chrysler conspiracy... must be the Pentagram and satanic symbols used in their line-up... remember they were owned by Cerberus or Kerberos, a multi-headed dog, or "hellhound" which guards the gates of the Underworld. :firedevil: .

Mel Gibson was right in "conspiracy theory" Why not a Chrysler one.

Ha ha, I was joking. My initial thought on the oil change was odd, but I don't think they would put it in unless it was fine. Either way it's documented if my engine magically blows up.


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