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GeePers 08-20-2009 11:31 PM

Need to figure out if my TJ is lifted
 
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Newbie here and I feel a need to demonstrate my newbieness. Just purchased a 2000 that is running 33 X (I think) 10.50's. It does rub on the inside when cranked to full turn but years of running lowered hot rods makes me a bit immune to the sound. Most of the charts I see show running 33's with a 1.5 to 2" lift but how do I tell if it's already lifted? What am I looking for that will be different than stock. I have nothing to compare it to so not sure what's what.
I'm attaching a photo of my Jeep so you can see how it sits now. Thanks

Levinoss 08-20-2009 11:32 PM

Don't look like you have much room at all so I can't tell if you do or dont. Don't know why anyone would put 33's on a stock height tho...

350chevrolet 08-20-2009 11:46 PM

pics of suspension. its got at least a budjet lift on it to even fit a 33" tire.

mrcarcrazy 08-21-2009 09:00 AM

Damn that's a pretty jeep. - sorry I'm no help...pics of suspension would help.

Jerry Bransford 08-21-2009 09:21 AM

I dunno for sure but even with its 33" tires, I don't think it's lifted. Whatever, it needs more clearance from a suspension lift for those tires as they are definitely rubbing.

GeePers 08-21-2009 09:41 AM

Thanks to all for answers so far, off to the Dr.'s office, when I return I'll pull a wheel off and shoot some suspension photos perhaps that will help.

4point 08-21-2009 10:10 AM

My guess is no lift at all. Those tires fill the wheel well pretty full. You need some lift for that size of tire. 3-4" will do fine.

Levinoss 08-21-2009 11:34 AM

Must have been a full time mall crawler.

GeePers 08-21-2009 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Levinoss (Post 426606)
Must have been a full time mall crawler.

Now, now you don't have to get nasty! Actually it seems have spent most of it's life being pulled behind an RV. Although it's a 2000 model it only shows 25K miles on it. It's new life will also be behind an RV but we do like to explore high in the Rockies looking at ghost towns and old mines.

Levinoss 08-21-2009 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by GeePers (Post 426766)
Now, now you don't have to get nasty! Actually it seems have spent most of it's life being pulled behind an RV. Although it's a 2000 model it only shows 25K miles on it. It's new life will also be behind an RV but we do like to explore high in the Rockies looking at ghost towns and old mines.

Talking about the previous owner....why would you install 33's on a stock suspension.

Jerry Bransford 08-21-2009 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Levinoss (Post 426778)
Talking about the previous owner....why would you install 33's on a stock suspension.

Because he wasn't experienced with Jeeps and someone told him 'yeah they'll fit'. That happens a lot, people just don't know any better. Why would they know not to if they're not experienced?

Levinoss 08-21-2009 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Jerry Bransford (Post 426834)
people just don't know any better. Why would they know not to if they're not experienced?

They should! Ignorance of the law is no excuse!

PT4WDL 08-21-2009 06:22 PM

Now, now guys. There is no excuse for installing tires that size on a unlifted jeep. Most of us know that. But we are also dealing with commoners too. Take it in stride, please. The Laredo I am driving was traveled behind a RV and the miles are high, the people never disengaged the axles so the the OD shows 147,000 and the thing is tits.

Levinoss 08-21-2009 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by PT4WDL (Post 426909)
Now, now guys.

Guess I need to start putting /sarcasm at the end of my sarcastic posts. =P

Schmo 08-21-2009 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by GeePers (Post 426442)
Most of the charts I see show running 33's with a 1.5 to 2" lift

That's not nearly enough lift for 33's. You should have a 4" suspension or a 2" suspension + a 1" body lift on a TJ with 33s. My guess is either no lift or a 2" BB with saggy springs.

PT4WDL 08-21-2009 07:05 PM

Just trying to calm things down a bit. No need for extra shiz in the biz..:cool:
I have wheeled for some time now and I am sure you have also. But the reality is we are on a site that others that are not as trail ready/friendly as we are.
The first time we had confrontation, I thought you were someone trying to put my jeep on CG for sale (crook). You called me out. You are all good to me now. The problem with typing out what you feel is not the same as saying what you feel. There is no feeling in the type like there is in talking to someone face to face. I hate that, and people tend to miss read me. I try to keep it real, bro. Don't get discouraged and keep on truckin' on, or jeepin' on... your all right in my book.:)

GeePers 08-21-2009 07:05 PM

Heck I was just kidding Levinoss, I didn't put the 33's on it so it didn't bother me. If I've read correctly 2000TJ's came with 31's as an option, but by the same token most charts show that it must be lifted to run 33's. The day I purchased it I drove it from Ft.Worth to Oklahoma City without a problem. From looking the 33's have rubbed on the sway bar but it didn't do it to me yet. I've looked over the upper and lower front spring mounts. The bottom doesn't seem to be altered at all, the top has a black hard rubber piece between the top of the spring and the metal but it looks stock also. I'll try to get some pictures posted. I spent today adding wiring and a towing base plate for hauling it behind an RV.

GeePers 08-21-2009 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by PT4WDL (Post 426909)
Now, now guys. There is no excuse for installing tires that size on a unlifted jeep. Most of us know that. But we are also dealing with commoners too. Take it in stride, please. The Laredo I am driving was traveled behind a RV and the miles are high, the people never disengaged the axles so the the OD shows 147,000 and the thing is tits.

Maybe there's something I don't understand. If you put the trans and transfer case in neutral the odometer should not register miles, right??

PT4WDL 08-21-2009 07:42 PM

Just disregard what I typed. I was brain farting on the situation. You are on track.


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