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WallyGator215 10-29-2013 01:53 PM

New jeep oil change
 
Know this has probably been touched about a thousand times on here. But here goes another one. New jeep 2013 sport S 2dr automatic. Got 630 on the odometer. Thinking about changing oil and filter at 1000 and switching to synthetic. Lot of good reviews on the pennzoil platinum. Mixed reviews on Mobil 1. Here's my ?
Change oil and filter at 1000 and then at the regular interval? 3k-5k or 3-5 months
Use factory mopar oil and filter?
Switch to synthetic and a specific weight. I live in southeast PA so it gets cold up here in the winter

I can change oil and do minor maintenance work or should I just let the dealer take care of it and get official maintenance records.
I know a lot of this is based on opinion but it's my first brand new vehicle and it a jeep. I want to treat her right. Thanks all you jeepers

CAWillie 10-29-2013 02:00 PM

Wally, there is an identical thread with this question going right now. The guys will probably refer you to it. The consensus of that thread seemed to be changing oil first time at 1000 was fine and switching to synthetic fine....use synthetic 5W20 as called for by Jeep. Oil brand choice is up to individual.

billarf 10-29-2013 02:04 PM

Wally, Do check out the following thread...

Read here: http://www.wranglerforum.com/f33/whe...ge-364418.html


Just take note that the Mopar filter your 2013 JK uses is different then the Mopar oil filter the 2014 uses mentioned in that thread. You want to use Mopar #68079744AC oil filter or an aftermarket oil filter that is comparable for your 2012-13, Jk.

Also, you 2013 JK would use a F106 Fumoto Oil Drain Valve if you wanted to use one

Lefty980 10-29-2013 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WallyGator215 (Post 5736938)
Know this has probably been touched about a thousand times on here. But here goes another one. New jeep 2013 sport S 2dr automatic. Got 630 on the odometer. Thinking about changing oil and filter at 1000 and switching to synthetic. Lot of good reviews on the pennzoil platinum. Mixed reviews on Mobil 1. Here's my ? Change oil and filter at 1000 and then at the regular interval? 3k-5k or 3-5 months Use factory mopar oil and filter? Switch to synthetic and a specific weight. I live in southeast PA so it gets cold up here in the winter I can change oil and do minor maintenance work or should I just let the dealer take care of it and get official maintenance records. I know a lot of this is based on opinion but it's my first brand new vehicle and it a jeep. I want to treat her right. Thanks all you jeepers

Can I just ask this........ What's the big deal with oil changes? I've been changing my own oil for over 10 years and never had an issue. All oil is quality oil these days; even the bargain brands. Just stick to what the manual says; they wouldn't tell you to do anything harmful to your jeep. I say save the time and money and wait. For your guys who have peace of mind from changing at 1k miles and then again at 5k by all means do so. I myself will stick to normal intervals and regular oil and if my engine fails I will gladly change my opinion.

legitposter 10-29-2013 02:24 PM

Change at 1K because it'll make you happy and you won't think about it anymore. Then change every 5K. Don't bother with MOPAR labels. Use synthetic because its 2013 not 1975. Or go ahead and use dino oil to save money because in the end your engine will last far longer than the rest of the wrangler will.

mcgee10 10-29-2013 02:32 PM

Know this has probably been touched about a thousand times on here. But here goes another one.

So search was not good enough for your answer.
No one on here can agree on oil or oil changes. Your new engine has 20 oz of brake in oil in it. Changing it to soon will do more harm than good but you do it anyhow.
Going to change synthetic oil every 3-5 k I see you have way to much money a few brains. You got me on a really bad day. I just can't take anymore of these posts on nothing. If you really don't know the answer you shouldn't be driving at all, your what the bus is for. I know many here would like to say it but none ever do and we end up this. Go have your oil changed.

whetstone 10-29-2013 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcgee10 (Post 5737906)
Know this has probably been touched about a thousand times on here. But here goes another one.

So search was not good enough for your answer.
No one on here can agree on oil or oil changes. Your new engine has 20 oz of brake in oil in it. Changing it to soon will do more harm than good but you do it anyhow.
Going to change synthetic oil every 3-5 k I see you have way to much money a few brains. You got me on a really bad day. I just can't take anymore of these posts on nothing. If you really don't know the answer you shouldn't be driving at all, your what the bus is for. I know many here would like to say it but none ever do and we end up this. Go have your oil changed.

Wow. Did the little lady cut you off from the pudding?

WallyGator215 10-29-2013 02:44 PM

Sorry McGee I thought this was a forum to discuss topics and such. The other threads I read seem to taper off topic and not have a defined answer or agreement. Sorry it's a bad day for you but no one forced you to read this or comment on it. Thanks to all that did comment with something intelligent or helpful but you McGee are being a bit harsh. My first new vehicle and my only other source for info is the dealer who seems to know just as much as I do about this topic. Hope you have a good rest of the week McGee but your harsh words will not bring me down. I get paid. I get laid and I have a jeep. Life is great!!

Rusty Pancelode 10-29-2013 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lefty980 (Post 5737554)
Can I just ask this........ What's the big deal with oil changes? I've been changing my own oil for over 10 years and never had an issue. All oil is quality oil these days; even the bargain brands. Just stick to what the manual says; they wouldn't tell you to do anything harmful to your jeep. I say save the time and money and wait. For your guys who have peace of mind from changing at 1k miles and then again at 5k by all means do so. I myself will stick to normal intervals and regular oil and if my engine fails I will gladly change my opinion.



^^^
This!

I've owned over 50 cars and have never had an engine failure due to oil.
I've had new cars, and I've had cars with over 300,000 miles on them.
I always used Castrol GTX dino oil until a few years ago when I started seeing dirt/dark specks in the bottom of brand new jugs.
I use Pennzoil dino oil now because it's rated as good enough to use in my motorcycles (Oh, yeah I have small engines also) and it's cheap.

I always use the weight range specified by the manufacturer.

I used to use Fram oil filters until I changed to WIX 5 years ago.

The only cars I ever used synthetic oil in were my '95 Vette and my 2006 BMW X5, and that's only because the manufacturer started it.

I've never had an engine failure due to oil in 20 years!
(I have lost a head gasket or two) :)

billarf 10-29-2013 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WallyGator215 (Post 5738210)
Sorry McGee I thought this was a forum to discuss topics and such. The other threads I read seem to taper off topic and not have a defined answer or agreement. Sorry it's a bad day for you but no one forced you to read this or comment on it. Thanks to all that did comment with something intelligent or helpful but you McGee are being a bit harsh. My first new vehicle and my only other source for info is the dealer who seems to know just as much as I do about this topic. Hope you have a good rest of the week McGee but your harsh words will not bring me down. I get paid. I get laid and I have a jeep. Life is great!!

Wally...... You owe no one here an explanation. Some here forget that posters here may be asking info in regard to their first Jeep or very first vehicle at that. Forums like this are a great place for young guys and gals and even older guys and gals to gather info that will help them maintain and enjoy their vehicle. As for me, I don't mind reading the same stuff over and over and don't mind answering such posts..... especially knowing that somebody is truly benefiting from the forum posts here. So, Wally take the crapola replies here in stride.

WallyGator215 10-29-2013 03:05 PM

Thanks rusty. I'm trying to avoid paying the dealer to do this stuff for me and I don't mind using factory parts and fluid either. Just looking to see what others are using and doing to their jeeps.

2resa 10-29-2013 03:11 PM

It's your jeep so change the oil as often as you want, especially if you're doing it yourself. Costs me about $35 / oil change (Mobil 1 synthetic) and my 10 yr old does most of it. Makes him think he's the s&#t that he can do it and we get to spend time in the garage together. I'd change it every month just for that.

grizzstang 10-29-2013 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WallyGator215 (Post 5738658)
Thanks rusty. I'm trying to avoid paying the dealer to do this stuff for me and I don't mind using factory parts and fluid either. Just looking to see what others are using and doing to their jeeps.

You can change it as often as you like.

While mine is under warranty I will change it every 6 months or 6000 miles with aproved oil and use a MOPAR filter. Why give them a reason to void warranty if engine issues arise? After warranty use any quality filter you want. I like WIX too.

scipio337 10-29-2013 04:47 PM

Wally, I too own a kickarse commando. I waited until the 5k point, and the engine didn't blow up. I plan on rotating and changing the old every 5k miles. I used Castrol syntec because it's Chrysler certified (not sure why Mobile 1 isn't), and Wix filters. The 5w30 weight recommended for 2013 (changed from 2012) is really thin, but I've read of others using 10w30 with no problems.

Good luck, you'll be surprised how easy changing the oil is. My first car was an 80s camaro that always needed to be gouged with a screwdriver to take off.

Moonrider 10-29-2013 04:49 PM

I have 13 with auto and had first oil changed at 3700 miles. Went with syntetic penzoil platinum and mopar oil filter. Did it myself-was very easy.
No one is gonna tell you 100% whats right and not except you. Do what u think u want to do.

mcgee10 10-29-2013 05:17 PM

I will have to apologize for this. I don't know what I was thinking. I'm truly sorry for this.

billarf 10-29-2013 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcgee10 (Post 5741322)
I will have to apologize for this. I don't know what I was thinking. I'm truly sorry for this.


Ok, but in penance, you have to reply nicely to 33 newbe posts on the forum between now and this Saturday, 11/2/13! :rofl:
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    voluntary self-punishment inflicted as an outward expression of repentance for having done wrong.
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    synonyms:atonement, expiation, self-punishment, self-mortification, self-abasement, amends; More punishment, penalty
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WallyGator215 10-29-2013 06:08 PM

No hard feelings here McGee. I have those days too. Usually Monday thru Friday. I'd still buy you a beer and follow you thru a mud hole any day

Old Dogger 10-29-2013 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WallyGator215 (Post 5736938)
Know this has probably been touched about a thousand times on here. But here goes another one. New jeep 2013 sport S 2dr automatic. Got 630 on the odometer. Thinking about changing oil and filter at 1000 and switching to synthetic. Lot of good reviews on the pennzoil platinum. Mixed reviews on Mobil 1. Here's my ?
Change oil and filter at 1000 and then at the regular interval? 3k-5k or 3-5 months
Use factory mopar oil and filter?
Switch to synthetic and a specific weight. I live in southeast PA so it gets cold up here in the winter

I can change oil and do minor maintenance work or should I just let the dealer take care of it and get official maintenance records.
I know a lot of this is based on opinion but it's my first brand new vehicle and it a jeep. I want to treat her right. Thanks all you jeepers

Change it a 1000 miles and then again at 3000, now switch over to synthetic motor oil, and yes, 5w20 Pennzoil Platunim is as good as any. From this point on, change it at every 5000 miles, and you will be good to go..........:thumb:

Xena1 10-29-2013 06:51 PM

I let them go to about 3000 miles and have had no problems. I guess a lot depends on your driving habits and time between 0 and change mileage.

walc 10-29-2013 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scipio337 (Post 5740706)
The 5w30 weight recommended for 2013 (changed from 2012)....

2012 JK uses 5W30.
2013 JK uses 5W20.

gecko4 10-29-2013 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scipio337 (Post 5740706)
Wally, I too own a kickarse commando. I waited until the 5k point, and the engine didn't blow up. I plan on rotating and changing the old every 5k miles. I used Castrol syntec because it's Chrysler certified (not sure why Mobile 1 isn't), and Wix filters. The 5w30 weight recommended for 2013 (changed from 2012) is really thin, but I've read of others using 10w30 with no problems. Good luck, you'll be surprised how easy changing the oil is. My first car was an 80s camaro that always needed to be gouged with a screwdriver to take off.

We sell the Castrol and Mobile 1. I noticed an older bottle of Mobile 1 had the Chrysler spec on it, the new one didn't. I was going to give ESSO (Mobile's parent) a call and ask them, but got busy and forgot. Gonna do that tomorrow.

RoadiJeff 10-29-2013 08:21 PM

Wow, two new oil threads on the same day and it's only Tuesday. At this rate we will easily break the 3 oil threads per week rate before Sunday. :D

gecko4 10-29-2013 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RoadiJeff (Post 5745994)
Wow, two new oil threads on the same day and it's only Tuesday. At this rate we will easily break the 3 oil threads per week rate before Sunday. :D

I didn't realize you knew all the answers already. Why did the older Mobile 1 meet the Chrysler spec and the new one doesn't?

RoadiJeff 10-29-2013 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gecko4 (Post 5746178)
I didn't realize you knew all the answers already. Why did the older Mobile 1 meet the Chrysler spec and the new one doesn't?

That's not the question the OP asked, pumpkin. He asked this:

Change oil and filter at 1000 and then at the regular interval? 3k-5k or 3-5 months
Use factory mopar oil and filter?

gecko4 10-29-2013 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RoadiJeff (Post 5746506)
That's not the question the OP asked, pumpkin. He asked this: Change oil and filter at 1000 and then at the regular interval? 3k-5k or 3-5 months Use factory mopar oil and filter?

Just trying to keep you from raining on the parade, sunshine. A lot of useful information gets exchanged throughout the entire thread. Useless posts like yours are no help. If you don't like it, don't bother reading.

Gonzos Wrangler 10-29-2013 10:19 PM

Oil? We have to change the oil on our Jeeps???

Moonrider 10-29-2013 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gonzos Wrangler (Post 5749410)
Oil? We have to change the oil on our Jeeps???

I thought use sarcasm in reply, then i saw u have 33 post only, then i thought who knows...

wvujaw 10-29-2013 11:00 PM

I have two more free oil changes, I think Ill switch to synthetic and change myself afterwards.

scipio337 10-30-2013 06:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by walc (Post 5744874)
2012 JK uses 5W30.
2013 JK uses 5W20.

Yep, my mistake!

Quote:

Originally Posted by gecko4
We sell the Castrol and Mobile 1. I noticed an older bottle of Mobile 1 had the Chrysler spec on it, the new one didn't. I was going to give ESSO (Mobile's parent) a call and ask them, but got busy and forgot. Gonna do that tomorrow.

Mobile actually has an answer on their website:

Quote:

Question:
Mobil 1 5W-20 and Chrysler MS-6395
Why is your Mobil 1 5W-20 not Chrysler MS-6395 spec approved? Or if it is, why is the certification not on the bottle or website?
-- Josh Eads, Cabot, AR

Answer:
Chryslerís latest revision to the MS-6395 specification calls for a field trial spanning multiple seasons over two years. While we fully expect the exceptional performance of Mobil 1 synthetic motor oil to meet Chryslerís specification requirements, at this time we are in the process of evaluating our timeline to start this testing.
Mobil 1 | Chrysler MS-6395 Specification

Although I've seen that post thrown around on websites for at least a year or two. Some have guessed it is due to some weird corporate slap fight.

http://www.wranglerforum.com/f33/ms-...te-248329.html

Let us know if you hear anything new.


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