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aness2323 09-28-2009 07:10 PM

smittybilt rear tire carrier bumper
 
I had one of these installed on my YJ and it rattled from the beginning. After a week the bumper also rocked and was loose. It only has 2 bolts on each side and they were starting to pull the washer through the hole. The shop that mounted it re-tightened it and put some heavy duty washers, and also said it was just because this bumper is junk, and all smittybilt carriers rattle. After it came loose again they claim its the YJ's fault. They are saying the frame is slightly rusted and "thinned out" in that area and causing too much of the bolt to want to pull through. They have said they will swap it out for another brand but it will probably happen on any bumper. My questions are 1. does this sound like bs, and the problem is just a cheap bumper with the wrong size bolts and hardware. 2. Are the more expensive bumpers going to bolt to the frame any differently (ie. more than 2 bolts on either side). I am looking at the warn combo. as a replacement. 3. if it is the frames problem (although I didnt see excessive rust on this part of the frame), is there some way to have this are reinforced, or some metal placed to provide a more stable platform. Thanks

jwells36 09-29-2009 11:29 AM

I have the smittybilt rear bumper on my tj and it does rattle a little bit when going over bumps. I also had problems with install, some of the bolts did not line up right and stripped out, but i just welded some of the brackets to the bumper and they seem to be holding well. It goes back to you get what you pay for. I only paid $225 for the bumper compared to $700 for the warn, but it does what i need it to do i just ingnore the rattle. Eventually i might upgrade it but for now it does the job of getting the spare tire weight off of my tailgate.

jw

Schmo 09-29-2009 01:14 PM

I've got the Rock Hard on my TJ and it's really solid . . . no rattles or movement whatsoever. It and many others attach to the Jeep with several bolts and for an extra charge you can add the frame tie in which really secures everything nicely. I would assume that you could weld up some support pieces onto the frame if it is rusted out.

aness2323 09-29-2009 06:25 PM

thanks. I had a second opinion and another shop told me they usually weld or drill on some frame brackets as extra support. I am thinking of trading it in on a warn tire carrier. Has anyone installed one of these on a YJ. The shop told me they think it comes with extra support you tie in and have to drop the gas tank to install. Sounds much more secure than 4 f'in bolts.

SoCal147 09-30-2009 07:35 AM

Need to chime in here.

Two SmittyBilt front bumpers did not fit correctly to the front frame cross member. Now have a M.O.R.E. bumper coming.

Rear Bumper / Carrier seems to be bolted to the frame fairly well. There are four bolts on the cross member and two on each side. The side bolts attach to a plate which slides inside of the frame rails. These plates are provided with the bumper. The fit is just ok. Too tight to the body for me. I am doing a 1" BL so it is not a biggy. The tire carrier does makes noise when I go over bumps. very irritating. I am going to have someone ride in the cargo space and see if they can identify exactly where the thumping noise is coming from. SmittyBilt is junk as far as I am concerned. Wish I would have known better.

Schmo 09-30-2009 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by aness2323 (Post 450420)
thanks. I had a second opinion and another shop told me they usually weld or drill on some frame brackets as extra support. I am thinking of trading it in on a warn tire carrier. Has anyone installed one of these on a YJ. The shop told me they think it comes with extra support you tie in and have to drop the gas tank to install. Sounds much more secure than 4 f'in bolts.

The Warn is pretty nice . . . very simple design. Seems to hold up well, but from what I've seen they start to rattle after a while at the latch. Basically the metal shaft that goes thru the bumper to hold it shut, wears the hole and then rattles.

ChrisTX 09-30-2009 02:39 PM

I have the SRC bumper. Is this the one you guys are referring to?

Mine bolts to the frame in about three places (two on the side, then one through the bottom). I also bought frame tie-ins. Those are a must on every bumper, regardless of brand. It's secure enough that when I did a tail stand on it, one of the welds around the swivel on my bumper cracked a little when it twisted, but it still held, and has continued to hold up. I extended one of the rubber bump stops on the tail gate out against the A-frame, and I have no rattles to speak of.

I did see a fancy new Warn bumper twist and break all to **** on a little climb. That thing was swinging wildly, but the guy had to finish the climb.

aness2323 09-30-2009 06:33 PM

The shop trying to install it may just be the problem. They said after mult. different stories, that there are only 2 bolts on either side because the other holes in the frame are rusted and wont take the bolts. They should have just welded on some brackets or drilled new holes. Surely they can still find a way to attach the thing right? What are frame tie-ins and where do you find them. Do they come standard with the warn bumpers?

stevens243 09-30-2009 06:38 PM

I don't know about that. I just had a buddy buy a smittybilt rear bumper/tire carrier for his JK.

Damn thing didn't fit and when he did get it on there, it rattled and the door release opens by itself.

He sent it back. I would have "accidentally" run that POS over with my jeep before I re-boxed it, just to keep some other jeeper from having to deal with it.

Schmo 09-30-2009 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by aness2323 (Post 451209)
The shop trying to install it may just be the problem. They said after mult. different stories, that there are only 2 bolts on either side because the other holes in the frame are rusted and wont take the bolts. They should have just welded on some brackets or drilled new holes. Surely they can still find a way to attach the thing right? What are frame tie-ins and where do you find them. Do they come standard with the warn bumpers?

This is a the RockHard Frame Tie In that I have . . . they're all pretty much the same . . . I had to buy it seperate, but like mentioned earlier, I think it's pretty much a must with all the weight on it.

http://www.rockhard4x4parts.com/imag...RAMEKIT-01.jpg

SoCal147 10-02-2009 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by SoCal147 (Post 450723)
The tire carrier does makes noise when I go over bumps. Very irritating.


Found the cause:

The cable lock I use to help protect the spare from theft was knocking into the tire carrier. My Bad...Not SmittyBilts.

Post 1" Body Lift: The fit is much better now. There is room between the body and the bumper. The bumper is solid to the frame.


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