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schnutzy 10-07-2009 04:44 PM

4 banger reliability
 
does any body know how reliable the 2.5L straight 4s that jeep used in the early tj? i know the 4.0 are basically bullet proof, but how bout them 4 bangers?

motokeen 10-07-2009 04:45 PM

Mines got 120k on it and runs great.

whitebuffalo 10-07-2009 04:52 PM

i have been trying to kill mine for a while now. it just wont die

ryt2112 10-07-2009 05:00 PM

I have heard both good and bad things about them. My YJ had the 4 banger, and I never had any problems with it (And it got abused rather regularly). I have, however, seen some that needed a lot of work that had less miles than mine did too, but then again that could go for any motor really.
Now, that being said, after getting my TJ with the 6 in it I will never go back ;)

jpdocdave 10-07-2009 05:02 PM

the 2.5 is just as bullet proof, and lasts just as long as the 4.0. it is a work horse motor, its just a little wimpy.

schnutzy 10-07-2009 05:05 PM

cool beans, might be buying one with bout 120,000 miles on it for cheap so thats y im asking

Fatbob309 10-07-2009 06:36 PM

I had one that outlasted 3 jeeps it was in. It was a great little eng. Not the fastest kid on the block but I got great mpg running 37's and 4:88's with the 5spd.

jdhallissey 10-07-2009 06:41 PM

Got one now with the 5.13 gears it moves ok and gas is not to bad. I think I picked up some mileage with them.

Jeepzcb09 10-07-2009 09:44 PM

look at craigs list and every 4 cyl say "rebiult motor" or new motor" and then look to see how many miles are on the body, and for example most of them say around 100,000 miles(give or take a little) so that means the motor blew around 100,000 miles!!! Sounds pretty shity to me.

Jesse-James 10-07-2009 10:30 PM

How many of those ads can provide paperwork for the rebuild. Many CL ads are full of shit.

kdukes4 10-07-2009 11:10 PM

mines at 118k and i love it! might not have the ump like the 6 but she kicks it into gear when she wants. and off road wise handles exceptional too. plus, if you're not looking to regear soon, you start with 4.10 gearing, so throw on some 31s if they're not already on. most peeps on here wont admit it, but even with their 4 liters, when you're sitting on 3.07 gears with anything greater than 33's. we'll they'd prob wish they were sitting in your shoes instead.

Atthehop 10-08-2009 05:01 AM

My guess is they did not replace their timing belts ay 90K and once they fail there goes the engine. They are called interference engines.

jpdocdave 10-08-2009 07:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Atthehop (Post 455587)
My guess is they did not replace their timing belts ay 90K and once they fail there goes the engine. They are called interference engines.

the old 2.5 did not have a belt, the new minivan 2.4 built on the neon motor platform has the belt.

i'd put my money on the fact that no one changed the oil on the motors that go. both motors will last forever if mantained.

AKWrangler 10-08-2009 10:38 AM

I have 172k on mine, and it runs great, never had to any major maintenance on it. just change the oil plugs and go! I hope to get another 172k

csamn2007 10-08-2009 11:06 AM

I cant really say i have a lot of miles, only 80k but runs like its straight off the lot. Hope to get another 200k on it!

Jesse-James 10-08-2009 11:26 AM

The 2.5L isn't an interference engine, is it? Haven't had to remove the head on mine yet.

jpdocdave 10-08-2009 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jesse-James (Post 455724)
The 2.5L isn't an interference engine, is it? Haven't had to remove the head on mine yet.

no, 2.5 is not, and has a timing chain. 2.4 is and has a belt.

K.C.'sJeep 10-08-2009 01:26 PM

My 2.5L has got 135k on it and still running great.

Jesse-James 10-08-2009 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpdocdave (Post 455755)
no, 2.5 is not, and has a timing chain. 2.4 is and has a belt.


Didn't think so, I knew it was a chain.

woods453 10-08-2009 02:09 PM

It's a strong engine, but slower than the 4.0.

cheap_jeep 10-08-2009 05:02 PM

97' got over 220k on mine before I pulled it to freshen it up. still ran great. Its all in the maintinance.

jvc 10-13-2009 12:59 PM

i was not so lucky. My son's 1999 SE TJ 2.5L 4 cylinder engine was replaced recently.

had way less than 100k miles.

The mechanic said I should have found and bought a 6 cylinder instead.

schnutzy 10-13-2009 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jvc (Post 458771)
i was not so lucky. My son's 1999 SE TJ 2.5L 4 cylinder engine was replaced recently.

had way less than 100k miles.

The mechanic said I should have found and bought a 6 cylinder instead.

did the mechanic say what caused it to need to be replaced?

danieldlg_13 10-13-2009 01:51 PM

People will be biased with what they have. If they could do it again, they would have probably bought the 6cyl. My friend had a four and it struggled to get up to 65 mph on 35's. My 6 easily does 85 on 31s, and can tow more.

Fatbob309 10-13-2009 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by danieldlg_13 (Post 458808)
People will be biased with what they have. If they could do it again, they would have probably bought the 6cyl. My friend had a four and it struggled to get up to 65 mph on 35's. My 6 easily does 85 on 31s, and can tow more.

Really??? You are going to do a comp of a 6cyl on 31's to a 4 cyl on 35's? ok then... Oh yeah my ram with a v8 gan go faster that your jeep while towing a jeep since we are just tossing out things that aren't the same.

:9lame:

Fatbob309 10-13-2009 02:03 PM

I have had 3 4.0's and a 2.5... The 2.5 is a good little eng. Like I said before not a power house at all and you will need to gear the snot out of it to run bigger tires but over all I would drive one again.

jvc 10-13-2009 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by schnutzy (Post 458774)
did the mechanic say what caused it to need to be replaced?

We did not tear down the failed engine to diagnose the root cause.

An original Chrysler/Jeep engine was not in stock and was no longer available in Maryland at the time.

My son was eager to get back on the road so I bought a Jasper remanufactured engine that came with a warranty.

I had to weigh the total cost, labor, time, and inconvenience to rebuilding the original or going with the remanufacture replacement.

I really wanted to try a diesel conversion but haven't found a qualified shop yet.

jdhallissey 10-13-2009 03:34 PM

Mine is running strong. I geared the snot out of it too :D (5.13s)

danieldlg_13 10-14-2009 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fatbob309 (Post 458812)
Really??? You are going to do a comp of a 6cyl on 31's to a 4 cyl on 35's? ok then... Oh yeah my ram with a v8 gan go faster that your jeep while towing a jeep since we are just tossing out things that aren't the same.

:9lame:

Actually yes. I was compairing the output of the two vehicles and engines, because the thread got into the capabilities of the engines. If I was compairing Rams then I would have said get a v8 Ram... but we were talking about Jeeps. Yes the 6cyl eng has more capability than the 4, but the 4 cyl is a realiable engine as well.

Loic 10-14-2009 01:20 PM

when i bought my 98, engine was bad the jeep had arround 125k miles. lack of maintenance is most likely the culpid, when i drained the oil it was more fluid than water if thats possible.....


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