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ABSOLUTnie 10-12-2009 12:08 AM

Help! I broke my Jeep - PICS
Posted in another forum - just looking for input.

I had an interesting adventure at the Cliffs (Insane Terrain) this weekend. The trails were VERY muddy and there was a good amount of water. Long story short, I had to go back and pull my buddy out and ended up getting very stuck in a huge, muddy, clay hole. I was revin it pretty hard trying to get out and got mud everywhere. Everything seemed ok till I got on the road.

Once I got on the road, I heard pretty loud vibrations from under the car. I looked underneath and noticed that my driveshaft was making the noise, well, the u-joint (transfer case side) was broken. The cap was missing, causing the driveshaft to vibrate. A part of me was saying "take the driveshaft off before you make the 75 mile trip back home!" but I got on the highway anyway.

After driving 55mph for a couple mins.......BOOOOOOM, CRACKKKK, PPPOOOWWWW!!! My jeep swerved, I heard a series of loud noises, almost crapped my pants and watched my driveshaft bounce along the highway. I pulled over, picked up my driveshaft and inspected the damage. Here is the aftermath:
From the looks of it, it looks like I need a new driveshaft, transfer case, and a shifter linkage. Another thing to point out is that my trans fluid pan was leaking as well, it probably got hit.

So what do you guys think?
How much can I pick up the parts for?
What other damage could have occurred?
Any advice on the repair project (I'm gonna try to tackle this on myself)?
As a side question, any tips on cleaning this?

jdhallissey 10-12-2009 12:57 AM

Looks like you had fun. Hope you have another vehicle to drive in the mean time. Yea takin the front shaft out would of saved ya! Live and learn. Personally I would find a rubi trans case. It is going to cost you 1000 or so for a trans case. 300 for front driveshaft get one built for the rear too at the same time. Let me know when you get some parts or need help pullin stuff off. I just did a sye today and did everything your going to do to pull the tcase off. To the trans pan I think drop it inspect it and figure if you need a new one. To clean the motor off hose works well. I am up in gurnee btw. Always willing to help. Let me know if you need to find out what tools, I have remembered them all from today lol.

BTW I would regear it too 4.10's or even 4.56's while doing all this work.

csamn2007 10-12-2009 06:21 AM

If you are looking for a good brand spanking new T-case, advanced adapters has some good deals on low range T-cases. A good buddy of mine got his from there, he said they have great costumer serves!

snwchris 10-12-2009 06:41 AM

Look thru in the classifieds, there's always 231's in there forsale and some with the SYE already on. Your best bet & cheapeast would be finding a 231 w/SYE otherwise the if you want to invest the money find the 241 rubi t-case and upgrade to that.


CMEvans79 10-12-2009 11:18 AM

I dont know about your fixable issues, but If you have a powerwasher or know someone who has one with a med setting and some time. I have one, but I live down by STL and not gonna make the trip to wash off your jeep... sorry.

snwchris 10-12-2009 01:06 PM

Here ya go, 231w/ SYE & Tera Low Kit $700

NP231 w/teralow kit and SYE -

nicolas-eric 10-12-2009 01:11 PM

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I would clean it with some oven-cleaner foam.

A friend did the same some weeks ago...

jdhallissey 10-12-2009 01:20 PM

Nicolas your buddy did it a little different tho :D. What did he do to snap the leaf?

Jeeper 10-12-2009 01:26 PM

You did not crap your pants when it happened but i crapped mine when i looked at the pictures.:9lame:

nicolas-eric 10-12-2009 01:27 PM

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His GF drove his Jeep the first time off the road. She was "a bit" too fast. That was a 5" hgh and 20" wide jump...

ExDementia 10-12-2009 01:45 PM


Originally Posted by nicolas-eric (Post 457998)
His GF drove his Jeep...

Any sentence starting this way can't end well...

jdhallissey 10-12-2009 01:49 PM

^ haha agreed!

SPDNJOE 10-12-2009 03:30 PM

somebody mentioned that either the Oceanside pick a part or the escondido pick a part had like 4 or 5 TJs.
Worth a call in my opnion.
good luck !

jdhallissey 10-12-2009 03:37 PM

Were are our socal guys start working for those 44 rears NOW!

Barrie 10-12-2009 03:39 PM

Correct me if I'm wrong, and I hope I am. In the second picture down is their some damage to the trans case above the trans pan? Looks like a torn rubber boot of some kind.

jdhallissey 10-12-2009 03:43 PM

^ your correct that looks like a pick up tube of some sort. You might be in the game for a lot of new stuff.

ABSOLUTnie 10-12-2009 06:51 PM

I started taking everything off today and it was a pain. There was clay/mud everywhere.

I'm definitely gonna do the SYE upgrade but don't know too much about it. Does the kit come with the front and rear driveshafts?

Also, which u-joints do you guys recommend?

jdhallissey 10-12-2009 06:53 PM

Hey I left you a pm call me up and I can tell ya what ya need since I am doing most of what your doing too. I don't mind helpin if you need another wrencher.

motokeen 10-12-2009 07:02 PM

That sucks. I hope you get it all back together soon.

nicolas-eric 10-12-2009 07:09 PM

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With a SYE you can keep your front DS (my still works with 5-5.5" of lift and a 3.5" belly-up skid). You only need a CV rear DS.

Tom Wood offers a good package of a SYE and CV DS.

You could replace the broken u-joint on your front DS. Or you could buy a better HD front DS.

I hope that only your fron TC case is broken and not something inside the TS.

jdhallissey 10-12-2009 07:16 PM

problem is I think he destroyed his front shaft so he is probably going to need a new one. While he is at it he should just get new front and rear shafts when he goes sye.

nicolas-eric 10-12-2009 07:23 PM

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It looks to me like only the part (red circle) that holds the 2 u-joints and the CV joint is broken. Replacing that is way cheaper than a new DS.

jdhallissey 10-12-2009 07:26 PM

I am doing that to my front. The problem is I can not see the yoke side on the driveshaft. If that is done for then a new shaft is in order. That whole cardan joint I just basically bought was 72 dollars and if you need the H piece connecting them is it another 65 dollars. I have part numbers too if you need them.

From tom woods the front driveshaft is only 350 I think. My rear cost me 299 today from him.

nicolas-eric 10-12-2009 07:32 PM

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my DS on the pic cost 120$ for the parts only. a buddy works in a cardan shaft shop.

I donīt see a reason why I should install a HD front DS. If it brakes, I have 3 stock DSs in my garage.

jdhallissey 10-12-2009 07:41 PM

^ well your just lucky lol. Trying to find the parts for that joint are bad enough. Want to ship me one? :D

nicolas-eric 10-12-2009 08:13 PM

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Why is it bad to find the parts?
That are standard Dana Spicer u-joints and cv-joints. And the part in the circle on my pic is available in every shop that builts jeep axles (p.e. Tom Wood).
Rebuilding a DS doesnīt take much time. We replaced all joints on a friends ZJ front DS and we only needed an hour for that.

snwchris 10-12-2009 08:58 PM

well if you have mix-matched parts ie: DS, T-Case out put then probably different U-joints. Otherwise it takes 2 of the same Spicer or Precision U-joints. I just rebuild mine this past spring. I got the parts really cheap from a driveshaft shop.


Jeepzcb09 10-12-2009 11:02 PM

you can get a T-case with SYE out of Quadratec for $899 Brand new!!! BTW what do you think happened to make your drive shafts do that... cause im doing some trails/mud this weekend and dont want that crap happening to me!!!!

snwchris 10-13-2009 07:05 AM

In the story above he mentioned having a vibration and when pulled over saw a u-joint cap missing. Instead of pulling the driveshaft off, kept driving the the u-joint finally gave.

This doesn't happen alot, it's one of those misfortunate things.

Just remember after a day of wheeling check everything over before hitting the road and especially wash off the brakes, inside/outside of wheels and front suspension before hitting the road to drive home. Dry, heavy mud can reek havoc and give vibrations on the way home.


ABSOLUTnie 10-13-2009 11:13 AM

When calling around for a transfer case, do I need to specify what trans I have? Should all NP231s just bolt right up to my trans or do I need to worry about some sort of adapters?

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