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1BLKJP 11-04-2009 12:55 AM

Arizona Tonto Forest Plan (NEED PUBLIC INPUT)
 
I guess it's RED SHIRT time again............. this notice just came out and hard copy back up info show almost ALL 4x4 trails will be closed in Tonto. GLOBE DISTRICT looks to be the worst!!!! Most of the rest of F/S trails in the state are going to a trail system from 1988 (RATM)........... this is NOT ACCEPTABLE. We MUST attend at least one of the public meetings listed below to fight for our RIGHTS. F/S say: OHV is an acceptable use of F/S lands........... closing trails to the limit of use from over 20 years ago will not work. The next thing we'll hear is: "too much damage...... must close".

OHV have spent thousands on Arizona trail inventory (although F/S did not accept much) and our enthusiasts have spent many hours helping GPS their favorate trails.............. for what? To get them closed! DON'T LET THIS HAPPEN. FIGHT FOR YOUR RIGHTS.

Globe seems to be hit the hardest as many trails from Jamboree are in this area............ Montana Mountain and surrounding trails, Powerline, top of H2H, Ajax Loop, and several near/around the ASARCO mine property. I have the inventory maps that reflect all of the existing trails south of Hwy 60 connecting with FJ trails if anyone wants them. I'm going to try and make it to Globe but will for sure make it to Mesa. PLEASE make time to attend at least one of these meetings............. Do YOUR SHARE to protect our trails.


The Tonto National Forest, located in central Arizona, is proposing changes to their motorized vehicle travel system. During the month of November, six public open houses are scheduled to explain the process used to review the current route system, the criteria for determining needs for change, and to discuss any issues people may have with the proposed changes. Dates, times, and locations of the open houses are shown below
The Forest Service is seeking input from the public on these proposed changes before making a final determination on the designated route system. The public is invited to come and share their ideas about the forest's system of roads, trails, and/or areas, review the proposed system, and submit comments about the proposal.
A copy of the Forest Travel Management Proposed Action can be found on the Forest website at Tonto National Forest - Travel Management . You may also get a copy by visiting the Supervisor's Office at 2324 E. McDowell Rd., Phoenix, Arizona, or at one of the district offices.
Open House Schedule
Wednesday, November 4, 2009 6:30-8:00 pm
Tonto Basin Elementary School
445 South Old Hwy 188, (Punkin Center)
Tonto Basin, AZ
Thursday, November 5, 2009 6:00-7:30 pm
Old High School Auditorium
401 High Street
Globe, AZ
Monday, November 9, 2009 6:30-8:00 pm
Black Mountain Elementary School
33606 N. 60th Street
Scottsdale, AZ
Thursday, November 11, 2009 6:00-7:30 pm
Pleasant Valley Community Center
47533 Hwy 288
Young, AZ
Tuesday, November 17, 2009 7:00-8:30pm
Broadway Recreation Center
59 E Broadway Rd
Mesa, AZ
Wednesday, November 18, 2009 6:00-7:30pm
Julia Randall Elementary School
601 S Greenway Parkway
Payson, AZ
Written comments regarding this proposed action may be submitted through December 4, 2009. Comments should be mailed to Travel Management Team Leader, Tonto National Forest, 2324 E McDowell Rd, Phoenix AZ, 85006.
For more information, contact Genevieve Johnson at 602-225-5213, or visit the Tonto National Forest webpage at Redirect .
JUST REMEMBER, PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT IS CRUCIAL TO KEEP RECREATION AREAS OPEN; PLEASE GET INVOLVED!

AzTJ 11-04-2009 01:00 AM

Crap.

4point 11-04-2009 10:15 AM

We just went through a similar process here in Cali. We are now waiting to see what the district supers from the FS have came up with for a final determination.. Of the five plans they offered 4 were crap and one was leave it as is. We know that is not going to happen. Arizonians need to get on board through the complete process here. You will loose lands just how much depends on public input.

coolbreeze 12-16-2009 09:22 AM

The USFS and BLM are out of control. It appears they don't care about us, the public that actually enjoys our lands and use them responsibly. Its time to vote out those that don't really care about about peoples rights.

tailwinds11kts 09-24-2010 10:47 PM

1BLKJP, what ever happened with Tonto and the Forest Service? I'm from Az, but don't live there any more. Still, I am interested in the out come

AZNighthiker 09-26-2010 04:49 PM

Thanks for posting. I have worked on land use issues and once served on the Pinal County Planning task force. I have also advocated wilderness areas as well as advocated for areas to remain open to motorized vehicles. I also participated in getting access to Arizona State Trust Lands back when I was a Jr. High student and continued to present day with the permit system that is currently in place for Arizona State Trust Lands. As a long time hiker, backpacker and jeep driver (I tried buying my first jeep when I was 10) I thank you for posting the information regarding the Tonto National Forest plan and encourage folks to review and particpate in the process.

Scott124 11-05-2010 11:47 PM

This just sucks!!!I'll be at the black mountain one anyone else going?

bobjenkins 11-06-2010 12:40 AM

Wait they're closing roads? Ive never had a problem finding roads to explore.hope it doesn't change

Wrangler1212 11-30-2010 09:09 AM

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AzTJ 11-30-2010 02:43 PM

AS far as I know there were no major closures. There are still talks of them but nothing has gone forward enough to do so.

If you want any more information on trail closures get in contact with the AzOHVC as well as the AZ Game and Fish Department.

Arizona OHV Trails & OHV Maps OHV Places to Ride and Areas in Arizona

bobjenkins 12-02-2010 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AzTJ (Post 901230)
AS far as I know there were no major closures. There are still talks of them but nothing has gone forward enough to do so.

If you want any more information on trail closures get in contact with the AzOHVC as well as the AZ Game and Fish Department.

Arizona OHV Trails & OHV Maps OHV Places to Ride and Areas in Arizona

was at fish and game today. no major closures . there are still about 30 OHV parks.

bOATSUN 12-06-2010 06:30 PM

Just getting started in Jeeping. Iam instred in this because Ido my wandering around it the Prescott Forest, I sure don't want this s--t to start there if it hasn't already

1BLKJP 06-06-2011 02:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bOATSUN (Post 911212)
Just getting started in Jeeping. Iam instred in this because Ido my wandering around it the Prescott Forest, I sure don't want this s--t to start there if it hasn't already

It has started in AZ and will continue to happen until AZ wheelers figure out that it is no longer a free for all. There are several slated closures in the Tonto Forest, the plan is ongoing and Tonto is one of the slowest on the planet to put their plan together. We have gone thru several other plans since this post was originally put out there and have even completed the Table Mesa plan with NO major closures. We weren't so lucky in Florence Junction with Closure of 3 very nice trails including the World Famous Martinez Cabins trail.

Let me know if any of you have any questions on the current state of OHV in Arizona.


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